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Jan the Man

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Berniece said:
I don't see an issue with how he's riding. There's not obligation to ride for Almeida. That's not how UAE works. If everyone else can do what they want, I don't see why it should be different for him. Team only works as a team if it's for Pogacar, and otherwise it's everyone for themselves.
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He patently soft pedalled yesterday. This is less about going for opportunities when stage win opportunities present themselves per stage 7 and more about failing to give all when really there is no excuse - rest day tomorrow, already had a day to recover from his stage win.
 
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Rou

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Berniece said:
Is RBH a team where everyone can ride for themselves?
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I think it's a matter of ego and not team politics. Remember the Tour and Roglic' actions? He was a bit selfish wasn't he?
Ayuso's actions come from within himself and not team politics.
 
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Jan the Man said:
He patently soft pedalled yesterday. This is less about going for opportunities when stage win opportunities present themselves per stage 7 and more about failing to give all when really there is no excuse - rest day tomorrow, already had a day to recover from his stage win.
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He's riding his own race, and resting more so he has a bigger chance of winning more stages. That there's a rest day doesn't matter. Now he's even more rested for stage 10
 
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Rou said:
I think it's a matter of ego and not team politics. Remember the Tour and Roglic' actions? He was a bit selfish wasn't he?
Ayuso's actions come from within himself and not team politics.
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This is definitely team politics. They created an environment where they only work for Pogacar, and if he's not riding people can do their own thing. Just like McNulty found it more important to ride for top 10 position instead of helping Del Toro win the Giro.
 
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yaco said:
I don't care where Ayuso rides in 2025, because he has his own characteristics which make it hard for any team.
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Berniece said:
If everyone else can do what they want, I don't see why it should be different for him.
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So what is Ayuso riding for? Is he not simply using this years Vuelta as a training session for a certain race later this year in Rwanda? I cannot think of a way better for Ayuso to properly piss Pogacar off then to be the one who takes away his rainbow jersey.

As for where Ayuso will be racing next year, if he is still with UAE (and I think he will), then I suggest it will be all those secondary events... Tour Down Under, Volta Valencia, Burgos, China... and if he is any good, maybe Amstel Gold and the Tour of Britain as a carrot.
 
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Rou said:
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'I was quite tired and couldn't help the team much' – Juan Ayuso sheds 21 minutes on Vuelta a España Valdezcaray summit finish

Spaniard unable to help João Almeida in the mountains as rumours link him with move away from UAE Team Emirates-XRG for 2026
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He was too tired, guys.
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So he did a 1 day big effort in the first week of a GT and now he can't take a pull because he says his legs are sore.

How can any team take him serious as a 3 week GT rider? His legs will be sore non stop.
 
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I wonder if he sees really sees himself above all else or if he has no concept of other people, because they're different things but people oftentimes mix them up. Or if Matxin is running the show bts.

Let's just for a second assumes he's telling the truth and is just very unaware of how it affects others. What then?
 
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AmRacer said:
Like Wellens in the Tour?
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Yes. Pogacar gave the opportunity to Wellens, like he did for A.Yates in stage one of the 2023 TDF, but the circumstances have to be right. This validates my point that the only rider in the peleton who deserves a totally DEDICATED team is Pogacar. Reading that riders like Ayuso or Remco need a full team is nonsense.
 
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Cycling111

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Berniece said:
I don't see an issue with how he's riding. There's not obligation to ride for Almeida. That's not how UAE works. If everyone else can do what they want, I don't see why it should be different for him. Team only works as a team if it's for Pogacar, and otherwise it's everyone for themselves.
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He didn't want to do that either :rolleyes:

By the way, on the day of the presentation, Ayuso said his goal was the overall. And if he couldn't, he wanted to win a stage and help Almeida, who was the other leader. Obviously, he said that because it was the team's goal, not because it came from his heart :tearsofjoy: .

I'd love to see what you'd be saying if Pogacar behaved in certain ways. They're already criticizing him for absurd things, because there's always something to criticize him for.
 
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Cycling111

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Berniece said:
Extremely vague
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I'm fascinated by the correlation between criticizing Pogacar for any nonsense and justifying everything to Ayuso, when even Spanish fans and journalists are criticizing him.

By saying this you invalidate your opinion because it is changing your opinion based on the cyclist's name.
 
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Cycling111 said:
I'm fascinated by the correlation between criticizing Pogacar for any nonsense and justifying everything to Ayuso, when even Spanish fans and journalists are criticizing him.

By saying this you invalidate your opinion because it is changing your opinion based on the cyclist's name.
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I'm fascinated by Pogacar fans who keep on hating on him for normal behavior because he didn't want to help Pogi last TDF.
 
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Berniece said:
I'm fascinated by Pogacar fans who keep on hating on him for normal behavior because he didn't want to help Pogi last TDF.
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I don't think that's a normal behaviour from a team mate though.
Besides, he doesn't do himself a favours, so people hating on him is more and more justified.
 
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Juan Ayuso-searching for a place to go or a place to hide. He is a breath of fresh air. Juan Ayuso is a maverick, a cosmic coyote, too deep to be appreciated by the general public but too true to his spirit to compromise. He continues to be an inspiration to birds of the same feather.
 
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Ayuso reminds me of Evenepoel. They're about the same age (Evenepoel a little older), they've had one good GT result very early in their career, and now every GT they enter there's a lot of hype surrounding them but you just know they're going to collapse at some point. Evenepoel's Tour last year was the exception that proves the rule.

I don't know the reason, maybe it's because both of them were so good as juniors that they just won every race they entered and they don't really know how to suffer. Or maybe they just peaked too early. Pogacar was good as a kid but not that good, Vingegaard wasn't even among the best juniors. Maybe that's it.
 
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