Juan Ayuso discussion thread

[Ripper]

Ayuso reminds me of Evenepoel. They're about the same age (Evenepoel a little older), they've had one good GT result very early in their career, and now every GT they enter there's a lot of hype surrounding them but you just know they're going to collapse at some point. Evenepoel's Tour last year was the exception that proves the rule.

I don't know the reason, maybe it's because both of them were so good as juniors that they just won every race they entered and they don't really know how to suffer. Or maybe they just peaked too early. Pogacar was good as a kid but not that good, Vingegaard wasn't even among the best juniors. Maybe that's it.

I get what you are basically saying, but I don't think they're really that similar past the superficial level. Evenepoel's palmares are far superior in TTs, road races, and stage races. In short, he is a more proven winner.

 

[KZD]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1962563838756176054

View: https://x.com/TeamEmiratesUAE/status/1962563838756176054

Good riddance!

 

[Rackham]

Good riddance!

The same could be said from Ayuso's point of view towards Team UAE.

 

[topcat]

In the middle of the Vuelta 🤣.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks the Ayuso saga is hilarious. Cycling needed this badly. Matxin is the canary in the coal mine here.
I fear that some forumites are going to suffer emotional burn out like Almeida from getting too worked up about Ayuso.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Let's see if Ayuso will pull for Ciccone during the rest of the race. He could use a decent climbing domestique. Almeida at least had one in Vine yesterday.

I hope things will work out for JA, wherever he ends up.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I'm wondering those who defend Ayuso still think he is right after this.

 

[Rackham]

I'm wondering those who defend Ayuso still think he is right after this.

Me.

I don't see the world and morality through the prism of UAE's cycling team.

 

[AlfaLum]

+1000
For me, he'd fit into teams like Ineos or Movistar. GT teams that would give him seven domestiques.

At LIDL, he'll have to accept that Pedersen or Milan will be going to the Tour with their domestiques, that he won't be the team's only protagonist.

He's going to have problems.

Yes Ineos or Movistar would be more then fine as well for me.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I'm salivating about a Almeida vs Ayuso next year in the Giro but the Tour will start in Barcelona so maybe Ayuso will ride the Tour (for those who don't knoe, Barcelona is Ayuso's home town).

 

[QueenStagiaire]

I thought they would tweet about his DNF from the race.
It makes no sense to keep him in the Vuelta, it will hurt the team even more.

With this, Matxin's kisses the other day look even more ridiculous.

Why? They all know he‘s gone, now anything he contributes is a bonus. No need to give that up prematurely.

 

[Cycling111]

Good. I wish him luck elsewhere outside of that team. It's much better for the sport.

Now it is BORA that signs leaders

 

[Cycling111]

Me.

I don't see the world and morality through the prism of UAE's cycling team.

He already knew who he was signing the contract with. And the UAE, as a team, has treated him much better than other teams that, when a rider leaves, send him to a shitty calendar. The UAE gave him two Grand Tours and several races to lead in his final year.

He's done things wrong. And ultimately, his teammates aren't to blame.

It should be emphasized that this is not Ayuso's first contract; he renewed . He isn´t a victim.

 

[skippo12]

Politt just added a name to the list...

 

[Cycling111]

I'm wondering those who defend Ayuso still think he is right after this.

I was surprised to learn that the UAE knew this for a long time. Other teams in this situation ban riders and punish them by sending them to the worst races.
UAE has behaved frankly well with Ayuso, even though they know he's leaving.
Most teams choose to punish riders who have a contract and decide not to continue.

All this taking into account that Ayuso decided to renew his contract. It's not like it was his first contract and he regretted it. No, he knew what he was doing when he renewed.

 

[noob]

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fuo7PAUs6I


Listen to Broe here.

 

[Escarabajo]

No need to keep him in the race. It will make things worse, IMHO.

I don't understand why UAE took him to this race in the first place. Strange.

 

[ice&fire]

Among the many media sites reporting on this in Spain, I have found one that says explicitly that UAE was demanding an amount of contract buyout money pretending to get negative answers, but Lidl-Trek has accepted the proposal.

Juan Ayuso rompe su contrato con UAE y ultima su llegada a Lidl-Trek a partir de 2026

El ciclista español firma para las próximas cuatro temporadas con el equipo estadounidense después de que se haya realizado el pago de una cláusula millonaria. Más información: Jonas Vingegaard pega su primer gran golpe a La Vuelta tras conquistar la 9ª etapa y se queda a 37" del maillot rojo

www.elespanol.com

 

[Peyroteo94]

No need to keep him in the race. It will make things worse, IMHO.

I don't understand why UAE took him to this race in the first place. Strange.

What is even more crazy is why the hell was Ayuso selected for the Vuelta? Or things went really bad during the Vuelta? That’s a very realistic scenario! Bring back Unchained! I want to see Almeida and Ayuso punching each other!

 

[SHAD0W93]

Beat me to it!!!!

Politt just added a name to the list...

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/C8Go1Aq4lOE?si=S7MAiiwzkZMnmR0R

 

[Tim Cahill]

Wonder if he tries to get in the break tomorrow. Maybe Lidl will help!

 

[Berniece]

I don't think that's a normal behaviour from a team mate though.
Besides, he doesn't do himself a favours, so people hating on him is more and more justified.

I think this is completely normal behaviour at UAE. They only ride as a team for Pogacar, and in other cases everyone can do whatever they want. So I don't see why Ayuso can't but others can.

 

[James M]

No need to keep him in the race. It will make things worse, IMHO.

I don't understand why UAE took him to this race in the first place. Strange.

Reason is most pro teams care about winning. Neither they or the riders are as emotinal invested as some people here are if interests dont allign. Fact is they wanne win stages and noone else could help Almeida beat Vingegaard realistically as they have more than good enough team and down to Almeida to beat Vingegaard uphill if he wanne win, no rider not even Pogacar could drag him uphill. Ayuso won a stage im sure most teammates are happy as they get more money and UAE are happy as they care about winning? what seem to be the problem officer? Ppl expect teammates to reel in Vingegaard after he goes nuclear? Doesnt seem realistic at all does it? Same people who are angry Pogacar teammates didnt reel in MvdP in PR, thats a reality that sadly dont exist.

Novak best friend of Pog doesnt seem to have a issue like some here do, funny how it goes how emotionally some fans are.

 

[noob]

I think this is completely normal behaviour at UAE. They only ride as a team for Pogacar, and in other cases everyone can do whatever they want. So I don't see why Ayuso can't but others can.

Maybe he also did it to get out of contract.

 

[Berniece]

Maybe he also did it to get out of contract.

What about Soler and Vine yesterday, or McNulty at the Giro? This is just UAE being UAE

 

[AmRacer]

Gee also needs a team, who else?