Juan Ayuso discussion thread

[ice&fire]

Among the many media sites reporting on this in Spain, I have found one that says explicitly that UAE was demanding an amount of contract buyout money pretending to get negative answers, but Lidl-Trek has accepted the proposal.

Juan Ayuso rompe su contrato con UAE y ultima su llegada a Lidl-Trek a partir de 2026

El ciclista español firma para las próximas cuatro temporadas con el equipo estadounidense después de que se haya realizado el pago de una cláusula millonaria. Más información: Jonas Vingegaard pega su primer gran golpe a La Vuelta tras conquistar la 9ª etapa y se queda a 37" del maillot rojo

www.elespanol.com

 

[Peyroteo94]

No need to keep him in the race. It will make things worse, IMHO.

I don't understand why UAE took him to this race in the first place. Strange.

What is even more crazy is why the hell was Ayuso selected for the Vuelta? Or things went really bad during the Vuelta? That’s a very realistic scenario! Bring back Unchained! I want to see Almeida and Ayuso punching each other!

 

[SHAD0W93]

Beat me to it!!!!

Politt just added a name to the list...

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/C8Go1Aq4lOE?si=S7MAiiwzkZMnmR0R

 

[Tim Cahill]

Wonder if he tries to get in the break tomorrow. Maybe Lidl will help!

 

[Berniece]

I don't think that's a normal behaviour from a team mate though.
Besides, he doesn't do himself a favours, so people hating on him is more and more justified.

I think this is completely normal behaviour at UAE. They only ride as a team for Pogacar, and in other cases everyone can do whatever they want. So I don't see why Ayuso can't but others can.

 

[James M]

No need to keep him in the race. It will make things worse, IMHO.

I don't understand why UAE took him to this race in the first place. Strange.

Reason is most pro teams care about winning. Neither they or the riders are as emotinal invested as some people here are if interests dont allign. Fact is they wanne win stages and noone else could help Almeida beat Vingegaard realistically as they have more than good enough team and down to Almeida to beat Vingegaard uphill if he wanne win, no rider not even Pogacar could drag him uphill. Ayuso won a stage im sure most teammates are happy as they get more money and UAE are happy as they care about winning? what seem to be the problem officer? Ppl expect teammates to reel in Vingegaard after he goes nuclear? Doesnt seem realistic at all does it? Same people who are angry Pogacar teammates didnt reel in MvdP in PR, thats a reality that sadly dont exist.

Novak best friend of Pog doesnt seem to have a issue like some here do, funny how it goes how emotionally some fans are.

 

[noob]

I think this is completely normal behaviour at UAE. They only ride as a team for Pogacar, and in other cases everyone can do whatever they want. So I don't see why Ayuso can't but others can.

Maybe he also did it to get out of contract.

 

[Berniece]

Maybe he also did it to get out of contract.

What about Soler and Vine yesterday, or McNulty at the Giro? This is just UAE being UAE

 

[AmRacer]

Gee also needs a team, who else?

 

[Rackham]

I think this is completely normal behaviour at UAE. They only ride as a team for Pogacar, and in other cases everyone can do whatever they want. So I don't see why Ayuso can't but others can.

Correct.

For example I can't un-see Majka having a go at McNulty in the Giro after Del Toro had already 'lost' on the way to Sestrières because he wasn't pulling and was protecting his own top 10.

Welcome to the jungle.

 

[Berniece]

Correct.

For example I can't un-see Majka having a go at McNulty in the Giro after Del Toro had already 'lost' on the way to Sestrières because he wasn't pulling and was protecting his own top 10.

Welcome to the jungle.

It also helped them get to +70 victories as a team, so that's something too. How many would they trade for a Giro victory though.

 

[Lequack]

Three years ago

 

[noob]

What about Soler and Vine yesterday, or McNulty at the Giro? This is just UAE being UAE

Oh I actually agree with you. I think Ayuso is singled out because 1. groups needs scaping goats to function. 2. Ayuso is a scape goat because he slanted Pog. That's how I read it. He didn't like to pull for Pog. That's the only thing that really really differ him from the others.

But I also believe he has probably tried to get out of contract. And I don't blame him for it either

 

[noob]

Correct.

For example I can't un-see Majka having a go at McNulty in the Giro after Del Toro had already 'lost' on the way to Sestrières because he wasn't pulling and was protecting his own top 10.

Welcome to the jungle.

Oh did Majka have a go at McNugget? I didn't see that part!

 

[SHAD0W93]

I think this is completely normal behaviour at UAE. They only ride as a team for Pogacar, and in other cases everyone can do whatever they want. So I don't see why Ayuso can't but others can.

People have been complained about Vine, Soler, McNulty, or Hirschi not wanting to really help others in the past and during races while they just focused on themselves though. Ayuso gets more “hate” since he’s a higher profile rider.

 

[Berniece]

People have been complained about Vine, Soler, McNulty, or Hirschi not wanting to really help others in the past and during races while they just focused on themselves though. Ayuso gets more “hate” since he’s a higher profile rider.

I don't think it's because he's a higher profile rider. I think Ayuso gets more "hate" because he did it last year to Pogacar.

 

[pelotonIQ]

UAE Team Emirates – XRG: agreement to part ways with Juan Ayuso - UAE team Emirates

The first UAE World Tour cycling team

www.uaeteamemirates.com

Bye Bye!

 

[James M]

Oh I actually agree with you. I think Ayuso is singled out because 1. groups needs scaping goats to function. 2. Ayuso is a scape goat because he slanted Pog. That's how I read it. He didn't like to pull for Pog. That's the only thing that really really differ him from the others.

But I also believe he has probably tried to get out of contract. And I don't blame him for it either

I think this is partially right. Some of the same people also needed a scapegoat for Pogacar not winning Paris-Roubaix, even though it should be totally unrealistic to expect any cyclist in the history to reel in MvdP once he goes in PR. Yet somehow, the blame landed on his teammates by some. So you're partially or even fully right.

At the same time, it's equally true that Ayuso is a non-existent team player. Thats been proven more than once, hes overrated and selfish and have a long ratty face even though that part doesnt matter, still its there, point is he has alot to prove in the performance department to defend the position hes had in the best team.

Nah but its a very good riddance for UAE and about time, also W for Ayuso sadly for him hes gonne be up against a certain someone in the biggest races if that is indeed the goal somehow.

 

[fenns]

He came to the Vuelta thinking in he was in GC shape, quickly found out he wasn't, behaved like a jerk in the last few stages, UAE have had enough of him.

 

[Lequack]

He still isn't as dramatic as Superman Lopez just quitting the Vuelta.

 

[Hugh Januss]

He still isn't as dramatic as Superman Lopez just quitting the Vuelta.

Give him time.

 

[noob]

People have been complained about Vine, Soler, McNulty, or Hirschi not wanting to really help others in the past and during races while they just focused on themselves though. Ayuso gets more “hate” since he’s a higher profile rider.

They get hate but also the behaviour just continued and continued and continued.

I think this is partially right. Some of the same people also needed a scapegoat for Pogacar not winning Paris-Roubaix, even though it should be totally unrealistic to expect any cyclist in the history to reel in MvdP once he goes in PR. Yet somehow, the blame landed on his teammates by some. So you're partially or even fully right.

At the same time, it's equally true that Ayuso is a non-existent team player. Thats been proven more than once, hes overrated and selfish and have a long ratty face even though that part doesnt matter, still its there, point is he has alot to prove in the performance department to defend the position hes had in the best team.

Nah but its a very good riddance for UAE and about time, also W for Ayuso sadly for him hes gonne be up against it now as hes not getting any freebies by a certain someone.

ratty face? What does that mean? If it's about looks I think he's very close to conventionally attracktive apart from skin problems. Tall broad shouldered, amazing smile, with dark expressive sparkling eyes. I can find a lot of less conventionally attractive men in this vuelta lol.

 

[YavorD]

I think this is completely normal behaviour at UAE. They only ride as a team for Pogacar, and in other cases everyone can do whatever they want. So I don't see why Ayuso can't but others can.

That's not really true.
Everyone sometimes works for someone else, Ayuso doesn't.
And yes, he doesn't work for Pogacar either, so it's more like everyone else does their job (occasionally), Ayuso doesn't, completely opposite to the statement you made.

And no, don't get me wrong, I'm not calling for Ayuso to be thrown on 100% domestique duties, I'm alright with giving him chances.. But sometimes he should ride for Almeida as well. Which he hasn't so far. Ayuso is the rotten apples here honestly.

 

[Escarabajo]

Among the many media sites reporting on this in Spain, I have found one that says explicitly that UAE was demanding an amount of contract buyout money pretending to get negative answers, but Lidl-Trek has accepted the proposal.

Juan Ayuso rompe su contrato con UAE y ultima su llegada a Lidl-Trek a partir de 2026

El ciclista español firma para las próximas cuatro temporadas con el equipo estadounidense después de que se haya realizado el pago de una cláusula millonaria. Más información: Jonas Vingegaard pega su primer gran golpe a La Vuelta tras conquistar la 9ª etapa y se queda a 37" del maillot rojo

www.elespanol.com

That would partially explain the bad behavior from Ayuso. Do stupid things so that only Trek is in the negotiations. So the negotiation benefits Ayuso at the end of things. Very costly if you ask me.

 

[noob]

Sure. It was merely a joke that he has a long face and not the point at all at the very least, just a bad joke. Not relevant or the point amigo.

Ah. There's a Chinese actor and singer who is also compared with a mouse and has a long face as well, so I had seen similar discussions about others and was curious