Juan Ayuso discussion thread

[red_flanders]

I hope the lad finds a spot where he can be what he wants. That or stop being an entitled, whiny, **** and put in the time, effort, and social capital to grow into a leader.

Being a leader requires you to have the talent. But having the talent doesn't make you a leader.

Hopefully for his career and life he finds a place and time to learn this lesson.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Juan should go to Red-Bull: he will have the strongest set of GT superdoms: Remco, Rogla, Lipo...

 

[repre]

Juan should go to Red-Bull: he will have the strongest set of GT superdoms: Remco, Rogla, Lipo...

Remco will be a top-notch domestic btw in couple of years. So your joke is a half-joke

 

[HashRouge]

I see everyone has remained calm and rational on this thread today...!

 

[scribers]

Juan should go to Red-Bull: he will have the strongest set of GT superdoms: Remco, Rogla, Lipo...

Even the top competition will fall in line behind the big Juan

 

[CyclistAbi]

So you have no issue with Evenepoel, Martinez, Vlasov, Hindley, and Lipowitz having or sharing leadership with Roglic at the Tour next year? Good to know.

Why on earth would i have issues with that, the issue i have is will RBH send them all?

 

[SHAD0W93]

Why on earth would i have issues with that, the issue i have is will RBH send them all?

Because you’ve been complaining that Roglic doesn’t have a team 100% working for him for years.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Because you’ve been complaining that Roglic doesn’t have a team 100% working for him for years.

Of course he doesn't, you can't seriously claim Rogla had a great GT GC orientated team working for him at the Tour 2025. Anyway, if this is on how RBH feels it should be done, fine, just send the best next time and we'll work something out.

 

[CyclistAbi]

I respect your opinion, my opinion is Juan Ayuso is a talented, spoiled, crybaby, sore loser. I hope he switches teams and we never hear from him again, gets a job at a car wash or mini golf course in Madrid, working nights and weekends.

He will indeed switch teams, hence we should hear about him for years, pay check will likely be bigger and hence a new car and some golf indeed most likely outcomes.

 

[CyclistAbi]

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/no-never-juan-ayuso-rejects-speculation-he-could-quit-vuelta-a-espana-takes-on-support-role-for-joao-almeida-on-latest-mountain-stage/

So Ayuso won't abandon his leader, like UAE has done from the get go. Promising Almeida leadership knowing the team won't be there for him and taking Ayuso along for the ride as a scapegoat.

Lets see it then and i will give them another chance. Till second rest day the boys should help Almeida gain some seconds on Jonas or die trying.

 

[Barnacle Bill]

Good effort today. He's young, this bit of drama will pass... still time for him to turn into the next Sepp Kuss

 

[SHAD0W93]

Of course he doesn't, you can't seriously claim Rogla had a great GT GC orientated team working for him at the Tour 2025. Anyway, if this is on how RBH feels it should be done, fine, just send the best next time and we'll work something out.

That’s not what’s being argued right now. You post your displeasure when Roglic, Evenepoel 2025 Tour, and now Almeida don’t have sole leadership and everyone working for them but now want Pogacar to have a teammate that won’t support his GC bid at the Tour.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Good effort today. He's young, this bit of drama will pass... still time for him to turn into the next Sepp Kuss

Ayuso already has more victories compared to Sepp so i will be surprised if other teams wouldn't be fighting for him for the position of their GC leader.

That’s not what’s being argued right now. You post your displeasure when Roglic, Evenepoel 2025 Tour, and now Almeida don’t have sole leadership and everyone working for them but now want Pogacar to have a teammate that won’t support his GC bid at the Tour.

I mean first of all you should then explain it more clearly, on what is being argued. To the part i responded i feel you were rather clear in your claim but this last reply for the life of me it's encrypted and i can't decrypt it.

By that, Abi, do you mean you and Rogla or am I misunderstanding? Last time we spoke, you alluded to some major problems. Is this the problem your dealing with? Hyenas circling from every direction within the team?

To the part you made in bold i meant for RBH to send the strongest team to the Tour 2026, as @SHAD0W93 suggested, and we are good. As @SHAD0W93 seemed to believed i am somehow against that.

 

[Pippo_San]

In all these years I've followed cycling I think I've never ever seen such a ***.
Young.
Got everything to prove.
Shut that trap and get the job done and work for the *** team that gives big money.
Because that's why it's called WORK.
This is no punk attitude.
This is being a *** just for the sake of it.
This guy's a joke.
Talented maybe.
But zero ethics.
GG to UAE to destroy his public image in this Vuelta.

 

[CyclistAbi]

GG to UAE to destroy his public image in this Vuelta.

IMHO no. It's the other way around this time. UAE, sports media and fandom left dangling with nothing, Ayuso moving on to a better place as a moral victor, bigger pay check and secured leadership position.

 

[scribers]

IMHO no. It's the other way around this time. UAE, sports media and fandom left dangling with nothing, Ayuso moving on to a better place as a moral victor, bigger pay check and secured leadership position.

Roglic has to be relieved by this shift in focus

 

[CyclistAbi]

Roglic has to be relieved by this shift in focus

Over there ageism and nasty media are currently the predominant issues. Luckily neither has to be taken all that serisussly and at least when it comes to the media i assume Belgian and German media to shift the focus for the 2026 season.

 

[CyclistAbi]

All in all guys, we finally did it, stick it to Ayuso, gave him exactly what he demands. Heavens forbid he would now go and secure Almeida an overall victory, that would be daunting.

Chapeau!

 

[SHAD0W93]

I mean first of all you should then explain it more clearly, on what is being argued. To the part i responded i feel you were rather clear in your claim but this last reply for the life of me it's encrypted and i can't decrypt it.



To the part you made in bold i meant for RBH to send the strongest team to the Tour 2026, as @SHAD0W93 suggested, and we are good. As @SHAD0W93 seemed to believed i am somehow against that.

I’m replying by to you saying Ayuso didn’t get everything he wanted got leading GTs because he couldn’t go to the Tour. Why would you want Ayuso to go to the Tour when he won’t work got the leader like you’ve stated your dissatisfaction for other riders.

You have been, always stating your dissatisfaction and “we will see” of Roglic showing they were wrong.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Because you’ve been complaining that Roglic doesn’t have a team 100% working for him for years.

Roglic is not quite the young up and coming superstar. To your other post I don't think Bora will send any more than 2 of their big three (Evenepoel, Roglic, Lipowitz) to the same GT ever. The other 3 that you mentioned would make fine top glass mountain doms.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Roglic is not quite the young up and coming superstar. To your other post I don't think Bora will send any more than 2 of their big three (Evenepoel, Roglic, Lipowitz) to the same GT ever. The other 3 that you mentioned would make fine top glass mountain doms.

I don’t think they would send all of those riders to the same GT, this isn’t a video game. But the post I’m replying to wanted Ayuso, Pogacar, Almeida, Adam, and who knows who else potentially to go to the Tour together.

 

[P4rthen0n]

Congratz to Ayuso on the 400m pull yesterday.
It was a pull so strong it almost dropped Victor Campanaerts, who finaly dropped after another 300m pull from Mikkel Bjerg.

And the way he almost stopped pedaling after such strong effort reminded me of Wout van Aert in Hautacam when he dropped Pogacar.

 

[Red Rick]

Congratz to Ayuso on the 400m pull yesterday.
It was a pull so strong it almost dropped Victor Campanaerts, who finaly dropped after another 300m pull from Mikkel Bjerg.

And the way he almost stopped pedaling after such strong effort reminded me of Wout van Aert in Hautacam when he dropped Pogacar.

Meanwhile Jay Vine wasn't waiting and Soler was thinking only of Soler's GC.

But Ayuso contributes and gets the criticism.

Why?

Because must....obey.....narrative.....

 

[SafeBet]

He looked so smooth on that pull, he's tailor made for eating raw aubergines with the sun setting right behind him in a LIDL commercial.

 

[Netserk]

Meanwhile Jay Vine wasn't waiting and Soler was thinking only of Soler's GC.

But Ayuso contributes and gets the criticism.

Why?

Because must....obey.....narrative.....

With the weak attack of Almeida, I think the objective was to not lose time, put Vingegaard in red, win the stage, and preferably have the break take all bonus seconds.

It went perfectly.