Landis letter re drug use in cycling

[Anonymous]

Ya - L'Equipe has that story about LA not riding the Dauphine or TdS since this morning, but i haven't yet seen anyone else pick it up.
It would seem strrange that L'Equipe would know LAs plans.

Also they said he was to return to France on Monday!

if there is a federal investigation underway will he be allowed to go to france?

 

[Beech Mtn]

Well, there's apparently a French investigation underway too, so maybe it's time to go hand out gift bikes or something.

 

[Cobblestones]

if there is a federal investigation underway will he be allowed to go to france?

At least the UCI should know about his whereabouts. Or will he go Chicken on them?

 

[Dr. Maserati]

if there is a federal investigation underway will he be allowed to go to france?

Unless he has been 'charged' with something I would assume he is free to travel wherever he wishes.

Again - it was reported in L'Equipe this morning, I have not seen anyone else report it until Browne, and he doesn't say where his info came from so it could be the same source.

 

[flicker]

No offense, but I don't understand what you're saying w/ "drug their clean competetors dicks in the dirt"? Is that the literal translation of some really good saying in Estonian or something?

attacking until the other riders tounges hang out an drag in the mud. attacking so that anyone who follows blows up and loose 20minutes. like the Triplets of Belvue

 

[tifosa]

like the Triplets of Belvue

Bellevue? The metal hospital? Really?

I must have watched a different cartoon.

 

[craig1985]

There are currently 686 listings for Lance Armstrong books on eBay - he could put it towards on of those.

Someone is asking $189 for a signed copy of Comeback 2.0 ..................

Just as well I'm not drinking coffee ATM, otherwise it would of ended up all over my monitor.

 

[craig1985]

Aye,

never spit out beer.

Unless it's bad beer - maybe.

It's 7.30am here, I think I would have a drinking problem if I were drinking a beer right now. And yes I would spit out bad beer, namely Budweiser and Miller.

 

[L29205]

if there is a federal investigation underway will he be allowed to go to france?

This from a Federal standpoint is nothing. His passport will not be revoked. Do you think the feds are thinking he will bail to live in France after all of this?

 

[Barrus]

It's 7.30am here, I think I would have a drinking problem if I were drinking a beer right now. And yes I would spit out bad beer, namely Budweiser and Miller.

You could still be drinking from the night before

BTW something I just heard, Eurosport NL wouldn´t even have heard of this letter before the start of their coverage of the ToC, or maybe it was the giro anyway the hadn´t known about it at that point had I not told a friend about it, who works there, goes to show how good of a jounralists they are

 

[craig1985]

Right.

Fair point then. Though I feel in the interest of full disclosure I need to point out that I have probably cracked a beer at 7:30 AM before now ......... course that would have been on vacation somewhere hot.

And certainly not Budweiser or Miller.

You would be on Scott Socal's ignore list for life.

 

[Anonymous]

This from a Federal standpoint is nothing. His passport will not be revoked. Do you think the feds are thinking he will bail to live in France after all of this?

Dunno, I know nothing of american law except for what i pick up on 24, fringe, lie to me, and burn notice.. Thats why i asked

 

[Digger]

Coolhand's take on things:

"Not really, most of his statements seem a bit detached from reality.

Some "new" thoughts though:

1. The thought that doping may have bigger effects on the personality/stability of the user over the long term. Messing with your system like that (especially hormones/steroids) may have serious long term damage. You see it in American football players for example. And with a few racers we lost as well.

2. I was surprised at the extent and duration of his doping. I always assumed that the pressure of team leadership at Phonak (and the impending hip surgery) led him to dope. I was completely wrong- he was 100% dope made rider. Depressing actually.

3. Tied to #1- the incredibly poor choices he made over the last 4 years. Initially his case was no worse than David Millar's. Only after being caught red handed and forced to admit he doped- Millar got and followed some good advice. Fess up, apologize, do your time and he probably could have come back like Millar and a certain 6 time French TdF KOM winner did. Same with Tyler Hamilton- some very very bad choices and decisions- to the extent you wonder about impairment."

This post leaves me with no other option other than to say that Coolhand, by his own reasoning, has been doping for years, and is now suffering the consequences.

 

[neptun1s]

Digger,

I respectfully disagree with your 2nd point, that Floyd was a 100% dope-made rider.

Though I certainly agree that it's surprising the extent of his doping, keep in mind that Floyd rose to the top of the mountain bike and domestic road scene incredibly quickly. At this time we have no idea whether he doped then, too, but I suspect if he did then it was nowhere near to the same extent. He was, and is, a super talent, and I think anyone who has raced with/against him will agree!

 

[Digger]

Digger,

I respectfully disagree with your 2nd point, that Floyd was a 100% dope-made rider.

Though I certainly agree that it's surprising the extent of his doping, keep in mind that Floyd rose to the top of the mountain bike and domestic road scene incredibly quickly. At this time we have no idea whether he doped then, too, but I suspect if he did then it was nowhere near to the same extent. He was, and is, a super talent, and I think anyone who has raced with/against him will agree!

Those are not my views, but those of a mental case, hence the quote marks.

 

[D Avoid]

attacking until the other riders tounges hang out an drag in the mud. attacking so that anyone who follows blows up and loose 20minutes. like the Triplets of Belvue

Your tongue and your **** can only be confused if you are inordinately lucky in the endowment stakes. I gave up meat as a protest, I keep getting offered it though.

 

[mr. tibbs]

You would be on Scott Socal's ignore list for life.

I coulda sworn Scott only posts good beers in the What Beer Ya Drinkin thread.

 

[neptun1s]

Those are not my views, but those of a mental case, hence the quote marks.

My bad! Didn't quite follow the quote marks.

 

[Anonymous]

the times are saying Kristin armstrong is co-operating with the feds

see this thread
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?p=219355&posted=1#post219355

 

[Hugh Januss]

the times are saying Kristin armstrong is co-operating with the feds

see this thread
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?p=219355&posted=1#post219355

Ouch! Hell hath no fury like a what?

 

[ellenbrook2001]

LANDIS the lyer number one in the world

hohioh LANDIS in hot water my god what happen there mr LANDIS has tarnish the world cycling for ever uhuhuhu the guy hes crazy maybe he will finished has PANTANI mr LANDIS has no respect for anyone hes a loser for ever common men wake up ,you did burry your head in the sand too denied all then now you open your mouth your big mouth hes a such lyer how they going too beleived him?
that story will goes on for years and years too finished no where hes a dead issue no one will talk ever never too risky.
hes rely a shame for cycling those guy suffer so much on the bike try too earn a living then a ******* nut crazy want too run the world with all hes lye hope no one talk too him anywhere he cannot go too france or be arrested hehehhe very funny if was LANDIS i wont sleep at all anymore maybe he has too watch hes back you never the twist of the story.???????????

 

[Hugh Januss]

hohioh LANDIS in hot water my god what happen there mr LANDIS has tarnish the world cycling for ever uhuhuhu the guy hes crazy maybe he will finished has PANTANI mr LANDIS has no respect for anyone hes a loser for ever common men wake up ,you did burry your head in the sand too denied all then now you open your mouth your big mouth hes a such lyer how they going too beleived him?
that story will goes on for years and years too finished no where hes a dead issue no one will talk ever never too risky.
hes rely a shame for cycling those guy suffer so much on the bike try too earn a living then a ******* nut crazy want too run the world with all hes lye hope no one talk too him anywhere he cannot go too france or be arrested hehehhe very funny if was LANDIS i wont sleep at all anymore maybe he has too watch hes back you never the twist of the story.???????????

Either you are putting us all on, or we have truly found the stupidest person on the entire interwebs.

 

[thehog]

hohioh LANDIS in hot water my god what happen there mr LANDIS has tarnish the world cycling for ever uhuhuhu the guy hes crazy maybe he will finished has PANTANI mr LANDIS has no respect for anyone hes a loser for ever common men wake up ,you did burry your head in the sand too denied all then now you open your mouth your big mouth hes a such lyer how they going too beleived him?
that story will goes on for years and years too finished no where hes a dead issue no one will talk ever never too risky.
hes rely a shame for cycling those guy suffer so much on the bike try too earn a living then a ******* nut crazy want too run the world with all hes lye hope no one talk too him anywhere he cannot go too france or be arrested hehehhe very funny if was LANDIS i wont sleep at all anymore maybe he has too watch hes back you never the twist of the story.???????????

There's me thinking Armstrong was a doper but your persuasive argument just changed it for me. Free Lance!

 

[Hugh Januss]

Those are not my views, but those of a mental case, hence the quote marks.

I like #2 above. Coolhand has to just gloss right over the fact that it was Lance and Johann who taught him to dope and come up with stupid shit like:

2. I was surprised at the extent and duration of his doping. I always assumed that the pressure of team leadership at Phonak (and the impending hip surgery) led him to dope. I was completely wrong- he was 100% dope made rider. Depressing actually.

What a tool.

 

[Anonymous]

hohioh LANDIS in hot water my god what happen there mr LANDIS has tarnish the world cycling for ever uhuhuhu the guy hes crazy maybe he will finished has PANTANI mr LANDIS has no respect for anyone hes a loser for ever common men wake up ,you did burry your head in the sand too denied all then now you open your mouth your big mouth hes a such lyer how they going too beleived him?
that story will goes on for years and years too finished no where hes a dead issue no one will talk ever never too risky.
hes rely a shame for cycling those guy suffer so much on the bike try too earn a living then a ******* nut crazy want too run the world with all hes lye hope no one talk too him anywhere he cannot go too france or be arrested hehehhe very funny if was LANDIS i wont sleep at all anymore maybe he has too watch hes back you never the twist of the story.???????????

are you drunk? or has lance run out of interns and sent his youngest child onto the forum?