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fatandfast said:
You are kiddin' right? He is wanted for questioning in France, Spain will give him as many back to back visas as can be inked as long as his bank account can show he is fat and healthy and not on the dole. You can be a murder and live in Belgium. As long as you are not asking for state assistance as an American everybody assumes you are going home. I lived in Belgium for 19 months last time and didn't get no stinking visa. No welfare no problem.

.......and what the phark is he going to do in Europe? Like how is he going to support himself? He won't get a ride for a salary. Who's going to pay his rent, bills and food? and this bank account. Where's that going to come free. The boy is skint. Lance barely speaks with him. All he got is those photos of blood bags on motorcycles in France. But heck ya can't tell a lot form that. I mean its just a photo of motorcycle.
 
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Hog ur right. I am saying if he can't get a job at the car wash or bike shop in N.County, and his racing consists of 1000 dollar 8 deep crits,he should probably just go to Antwerp,live in the slums and race 3 times a week. The other thing he can do is coach woman triathletes in and Orange and San Diego county. Probably make himself a couple hundred a week. Beats pulling weeds or a busboy with a bad hip. Once his license goes stale it takes a bit of time before he can be a Cat.2 again. Tinker is around 75 years old and he is still got a job racing his MTN bike. Maybe Landis should go back to racing where the streets have no name
 

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craig1985 said:
So Landis has absolutely zero qualifications or a trade that he can fall back on? That's pretty bad.


Floyd could 1 become bike messenger 2 b a pro mountain biker3 courier for an Amish drug gang.
He is qualified for all 3.

Oh yeah I forgot, Floyd could be a stand in for Ricky Bobby.
 
Big GMaC said:
wouldn't you be?

with the caveat of his actions around the time of his hearing re: LeMond/the FLandis fund, knowing what he knows about everything that went down at USPS for all those years how much of a F-U it must be to see Lance picking up $3mil for tanning in Australia, flying on his private jet, all that celebrity *** he was getting etc. when you are barely getting through the days and living behind a carwash?

again, with that caveat I feel big time for the guy, I think Lance should be careful about Floyd, he knows a lot and he is hitting the bottom, especially now with on OUCH and the Rock thing blown I wonder if he still has that photo mentioned in the Vaughters - Andreu IM?

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What has really got to hurt is that two years after the sport made him a scapegoat for doing what every TdF winner in the last fifteen years was doing, the ASO fired its management, buried its anti-doping stance, made up with the UCI, and welcomed the return of the biggest doper ever to the Tour. Now Pat McQuaid is saying that there won't be a positive at the Tour for years to come and he had to kick the AFLD out of dope testing to defend the sport. The anti-doping stance of the UCI has been exposed as a total sham.

Publicus said:
Landis sounds like a bitter, bitter man.

That might be a good sign. FLandis strikes me as someone who is most competitive when he is angry. That is what fueled him to victory in stage 17. He might get some more wins this season--assuming he has a team.

A strike against that theory is that in the pic that accompanied the article about his win in the Bahamas his arms look thick. It makes me wonder whether he is anywhere near his best climbing weight.
 
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A strike against that theory is that in the pic that accompanied the article about his win in the Bahamas his arms look thick. It makes me wonder whether he is anywhere near his best climbing weight.

I think it could be that cos he is doing his "Floyd Landis TT-position without areo-bars" look his forearms are squashed out?

Although looking at the results from that Baha race he got dropped and lapped on the 2nd lap of the Road Race by some Garmin U23s. Alternitively that could have something to do with the open bar the night before
 
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oldschoolnik said:
I have discussed this very issue with some fellow racers and we concluded that there is not enough money in a "blowing the lid on LA story" for the whistle blower. At this point LA's fans are too numerous and too indoctrinated to ever believe he was a cheat even in the face of photographic evidence or testimony by Floyd, Tyler, George etc... they woudld just explain it away. There is juts not enough payoff for the Whistleblower, in the is case Floyd. He might do it out of spite but I am sure Bruneel has a rapid response reply ready after all these years in case Tyler, Floyd, George and Frankie all got togther and had a press conference...(that would be cool actually)

Why would George say anything? Unless he and LA have had a falling out that I'm not aware of.
 
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Why would George say anything? Unless he and LA have had a falling out that I'm not aware of.

He wouldn't, I was just putting together a dream team of flippers to show hard hard it would be to get legions of fans to change their opinion at this point.
 
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As for a dream team,

The dream team could request statements from all his previous MDs(Dr. Ferrari), Massagers, personal assistants, Roberto Heras, Chris Carmichael, his ex-wifes, and Johan...all under oath. What about that insurance company that bet against him in 2006...they would love to get their 3 million back I'm sure.

As I understand it Hamilton and Landis are basically penniless and stripped of all fame and celebrity, while LA stole all the spoils. Maybe their anger will propel them to illuminate the truth even if there is very little in it for them. When you have nothing, there is nothing to lose.

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As for a dream team,

As I understand it Hamilton and Landis are basically penniless and stripped of all fame and celebrity, while LA stole all the spoils. Maybe their anger will propel them to illuminate the truth even if there is very little in it for them. Neworld

When we see Tyler's Olympic gold medal appear in a Marblehead, MA pawn shop we'll know he's ready to spill the beans!

But serriously, my point earlier was that none of these fantasy scenrios hold any financial return for the whistle blower...
 
oldschoolnik said:
When we see Tyler's Olympic gold medal appear in a Marblehead, MA pawn shop we'll know he's ready to spill the beans!

But serriously, my point earlier was that none of these fantasy scenrios hold any financial return for the whistle blower...
I think they could probably both comfortably retire from sharing the proceeds of a book like, "How Lance really won" by Tyler Hamilton and Floyd Landis
 
Neworld said:
As for a dream team,

The dream team could request statements from all his previous MDs(Dr. Ferrari), Massagers, personal assistants, Roberto Heras, Chris Carmichael, his ex-wifes, and Johan...all under oath. What about that insurance company that bet against him in 2006...they would love to get their 3 million back I'm sure.

As I understand it Hamilton and Landis are basically penniless and stripped of all fame and celebrity, while LA stole all the spoils. Maybe their anger will propel them to illuminate the truth even if there is very little in it for them. When you have nothing, there is nothing to lose.

Rumor is that Armstrong slept with Hamilton's ex-wife. Hamilton may have a reason for some payback beyond being made the sport's punching bag while the UCI protects others.
 
craig1985 said:
How substantial is the rumour that LA did **** Hamilton's ex?
This is the best I could find after 5 minutes of googling:

"It seems like [Lance] has about five lives, living them all at once," says Haven Hamilton, the wife of cyclist Tyler Hamilton and neighbor. "When you're with him, it's all so casual, and then later when you think about everything that's going on, you realize that his life is. . ." she struggles for the word. "Humongous."

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474976764924&grpId=3659174697239027
 
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Ninety5rpm said:
I think they could probably both comfortably retire from sharing the proceeds of a book like, "How Lance really won" by Tyler Hamilton and Floyd Landis


Why do you think they would make so much from that book? What publisher would pay that much for this story? The LA camp would say these guys are the poster boys for sour grapes and that they are broke, on drugs etc... would say anything to make a buck.... no publisher touches it, publishers don't know how clear the evidence is...
 

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How substantial is the rumour that LA did **** Hamilton's ex?
It is pretty well known. She was one of the few that did not resemble his mother.

You all are mighty catty!!!!!
 
oldschoolnik said:
Why do you think they would make so much from that book? What publisher would pay that much for this story? The LA camp would say these guys are the poster boys for sour grapes and that they are broke, on drugs etc... would say anything to make a buck.... no publisher touches it, publishers don't know how clear the evidence is...
If it's written well they'll find out how clear the evidence is when reading the first draft.
 

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01/27/2010| Floyd Landis has his anger back! First the Bahamas, then the world!
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Has Floyd Landis finally tapped back into his fiery core, the dark maelstrom of vengeance, indignation and plain orneriness?

And why, after so much time lost in post suspension Hell, has Floyd relocated his furious mojo in a sun-drenched, happy-go-lucky tropical island in the Bahamas? Strange meets weird and they’ve got some explaining to do.

First, the story: Landis won the time trial in the sunny island — which given the relatively weak field and oddball location might seem un-newsworthy. Except for two things.

One, Landis broke the record his pal Dave Zabriske set two years ago on the exact same course and two, he’s ****ed off about it. His exact words were: “I was on somebody else’s road bike with clinchers and no aero clothes. Take that f@*#ers.”

Fast and angry is the two word personality profile of Landis back in his super-human days, when he led Armstrong up the mountains of the Tour de France. It was what drove him to win the 2006 tour when his hip joint was rotting away in a sclerotic mess. (We’re discarding that synthetic testosterone charge just for story flow.)

So, maybe, just possibly, you-never-know-with-Floyd, his anger is back. Hooray.

Now, Landis needs someone to channel and focus his anger and that man is Armstrong. Give the man a Radio Shack jersey, a free Trek race bike and point him at Alberto Contador and say the words “kill.” Floyd will froth, steam will blow from both ears, tires will screech and the Spaniard will be chasing the mad Mennonite up the Alps.

The Tour de France begs for this scenario. It’s mandatory story telling and people should refuse to buy any gizmos from Radio Shack until the corporate sponsors cry uncle … Floyd. Lance needs every high powered weapon he can get his mitts on to even have a shot at El Pistelero. Landis is a shotgun filled with buck shot and nails.

Twisted Spoke has plans to convince the stiff shirts at the Tour de France to accept Floyd back into the fold. But one faux pas at a time. First, Bahamas, then Radio Shack, then world domination.

Now, Landis was wearing his freebie Rock Racing kit down in the Bahamas. But Michael Ball’s team just whiffed on their UCI license and nobody knows what’s happening to the team. The jeans looks great and the strung-out hipster models are cool but, skull logo aside, is this really a home for the Pennsylvania farm boy?

Consider the core fact: Floyd is on record that he simply can’t motivate himself unless he’s back in Europe raising havoc — and do you know why? Landis doesn’t hate Americans; it’s not in his DNA, he can’t get worked up about nice domestic American races and friendly competition from easy-going American riders.

Landis hates pretension and regulations and snobs and strange food and little tiny cars: he hates Europeans. That’s what makes his volcano blow and the lava explode down the mountainside. Floyd needs Europe for motivation — it’s the only place that makes him train like an animal and ride like a demon.

So where are we? Open letter to Lance, that’s where. Strike against Radio Shack until invitation is issued. Then we’ll work on France — and as a French major, I promise the full package of carrots and bull whips. The ship has left the Bahamas and it is heading for France.

Man the Twitter machine. We have much work do to between now and July.

Full monty:[Twisted Spoke Walsh]
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There's a greater chance of Lance Armstrong leading out Greg Lemond and Phillipo Simeoni for the win at the velodrome in Roubaix than there is of Landis ever riding the Tour again.

It reads like the he's got a few anger issues to deal with too!!
 

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Consider the core fact: Floyd is on record that he simply can’t motivate himself unless he’s back in Europe raising havoc — and do you know why? Landis doesn’t hate Americans; it’s not in his DNA, he can’t get worked up about nice domestic American races and friendly competition from easy-going American riders.


First time I have ever enjoyed what the twisted spoke said.

Floyd is not so dumb, he called Balls' cards without loosing any of his own chips.

Like I said before if Floyd wants to race road bikes he needs to join a European team, kick some behind there for a few years and then if he has it raise himself to a high level without drugs.

That I could totally respect. Beating Bissel on home turf can give Floyd no satisfaction.
 
Oh please, grow up and get real.
What was his first stage race win of note, FFS?
The Tour of California.

Sure he won an early Pitou Charente and Volta a Algarve, but they are really small time.

The only thing he ever won of note, legit, in Europe, was the early season 2006 Paris-Nice.
Fact is, his palmares suck.

You xenophobic loons will swallow any old rubbish that suits your off-the-wall, conspiracy theories and inflated opinions.
 
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