Male Cyclist of the year (2014)?

[cineteq]

Agree or disagree, but I don't see anyone who showed his face all year and won the big ones. And if you don't win big ones (Valverde), you can't be the Cyclist of the Year. You can't be the Cyclist of the Year if you designate a main objective and DNF. So for what it's worth, and I'm not here to convince anyone, I'm going with the one who accomplished his main objective and got the biggest win: Nibali.

If I understood well, a Cyclist of the Year cannot be a rider who wins 2nd-tier GTs and and one-week races, and neither a rider who just goes for points and podiums places. Then the unanimous choice is Nibali as Cyclist of the Year.

 

[LaFlorecita]

If I understood well, a Cyclist of the Year cannot be a rider who wins 2nd-tier GTs and and one-week races, and neither a rider who just goes for points and podiums places. Then the unanimous choice is Nibali as Cyclist of the Year.

(tro)lolololol

 

[LaFlorecita]

I doubt this.

we know you doubt it Echoes

 

[Red Rick]

If I understood well, a Cyclist of the Year cannot be a rider who wins 2nd-tier GTs and and one-week races, and neither a rider who just goes for points and podiums places. Then the unanimous choice is Nibali as Cyclist of the Year.

Let me spell it out for you,

Best. of. 2014.

Its not about only winning the biggest race
Its not about being the most consistent high place finisher
Its not about July
Its not about the one rainy cobbles crash festival
It's about being the best rider of the whole year

What part of that don't you understand

 

[LaFlorecita]

Let me spell it out for you,

Best. of. 2014.

Its not about only winning the biggest race
Its not about being the most consistent high place finisher
Its not about July
Its not about the one rainy cobbles crash festival
It's about being the best rider of the whole year

What part of that don't you understand

 

[Red Rick]

All hail the best rider of the year, hail the guy miles back in the corner of your screen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKDgNRGUIuA

 

[Echoes]

Gotta love all those Contador fans who discover cycling only when Contadull crashes on Bore (by his own mistake) and then claim he was consistent throughout the year with only 65 race days in the count, and of course no classics...

They were the first to claim that only Bore mattered a few years ago...

 

[LaFlorecita]

Gotta love all those Contador fans who discover cycling only when Contadull crashes on Bore (by his own mistake) and then claim he was consistent throughout the year with only 65 race days in the count, and of course no classics...

They were the first to claim that only Bore mattered a few years ago...

Don't make me laugh, I hate the TDF. But it is the most important race.

and he was consistent, or in your opinion only finishing 2nd or first in every stage race finished is not consistent?

 

[Red Rick]

winning the most important and prestigious does not equal being the best of the year.

I hate Wiggins, I really dislike Froome, still I'm willing to admit that they were the best of the year in 2012 and 2013

 

[cineteq]

Let me spell it out for you,

Best. of. 2014.

Its not about only winning the biggest race
Its not about being the most consistent high place finisher
Its not about July
Its not about the one rainy cobbles crash festival
It's about being the best rider of the whole year

What part of that don't you understand

It's been backed up, ad nauseum, why by some of us. What part of that don't you understand?

Isn't this Dauphiné? Widely known as a training race, warm-up race?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKDgNRGUIuA
Funny enough Nibali was with the favorites with less than a Km to go.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Let me spell it out for you,

Best. of. 2014.

Its not about only winning the biggest race
Its not about being the most consistent high place finisher
Its not about July
Its not about the one rainy cobbles crash festival
It's about being the best rider of the whole year

What part of that don't you understand

Well, obviously you don't understand your own post, since Bertie managed just one second place from mid April until mid September.

It reads like a pretty good advertisement for Valverde, though.

 

[Tonton]

Its not about only winning the biggest race
Its not about being the most consistent high place finisher
Its not about July
Its not about the one rainy cobbles crash festival
It's not about riding a bike

Now I understand

Vino!!!

 

[LaFlorecita]

Well, obviously you don't understand your own post, since Bertie managed just one second place from mid April until mid September.

It reads like a pretty good advertisement for Valverde, though.

Yeah, let's ignore the fact he suffered a fracture in July

 

[Red Rick]

Well, obviously you don't understand your own post, since Bertie managed just one second place from mid April until mid September.

It reads like a pretty good advertisement for Valverde, though.

which single second place between mid april and mid september do you mean, the 3 in the dauphine or the one where he dropped Nibali?

Valverde didn't win any international race between FW and the Vuelta btw

 

[Jspear]

It's been backed up, ad nauseum, why by some of us. What part of that don't you understand?

Isn't this Dauphiné? Widely known as a training race, warm-up race?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKDgNRGUIuA
Funny enough Nibali was with the favorites with less than a Km to go.

Yep this was just a training ride....AC was just warming up. He was building for something even bigger in the Tour. Also funny enough were Nibbes ended up in the over all of the Dauphine.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Yeah, let's ignore the fact he suffered a fracture in July

Unfortunate: yes, relevant, no, I'm afraid.
Accidents happen.

 

[TANK91]

Lets face it Contador has dropped Nibali all his carear it is a fact. He has toyed with Nibali so much. Nibali would have no hope in hell even in his TDF shape of following Froome the way Contador did. Did you see Contador barely in the wheel. Froome beat Nibali with the handbrake on when working as a dom in 2012. Nibali wins the TDF and those guys don't finsh and people say he would have won anyway? Haha yeah you are right we have so much evidence of that haha...

 

[Mellow Velo]

which single second place between mid april and mid september do you mean, the 3 in the dauphine or the one where he dropped Nibali?

Valverde didn't win any international race between FW and the Vuelta btw

Second in the Dauphine.
For someone who doesn't rate podiums in the monuments at all, you now want to claim placings in stages within a race as being the qualification for being the best all year?

Yeah, right.

Something tells me haven't been following this sport for too long.

As for not winning any international races between FW and the Vuelta, you really ought to check the date on this:

http://www.procyclingstats.com/race/Clasica_Ciclista_San_Sebastian_2014

That is what is commonly know as a "Classics".

 

[LaFlorecita]

Second in the Dauphine.
For someone who doesn't rate podiums in the monuments at all, you now want to claim placings in stages within a race as being the qualification for being the best all year?

Yeah, right.

you were the one who brought up the 2nd places.

As for not winning any international races between FW and the Vuelta, you really ought to check the date on this:

http://www.procyclingstats.com/race/Clasica_Ciclista_San_Sebastian_2014

That is what is commonly know as a "Classics".

What part of "international races" do you not understand?

 

[Tonton]

Lets face it Contador has dropped Nibali all his carear it is a fact. He has toyed with Nibali so much. Nibali would have no hope in hell even in his TDF shape of following Froome the way Contador did. Did you see Contador barely in the wheel. Froome beat Nibali with the handbrake on when working as a dom in 2012. Nibali wins the TDF and those guys don't finsh and people say he would have won anyway? Haha yeah you are right we have so much evidence of that haha...

Agree with the first part, but history is irrelevant. For some reason that only God (and Vino) knows, Nibali was stronger this year than ever. We'll never know "what if". Maybe Dawg should have had Wiggo lead him in the cobbles, maybe Bertie should have practiced more on the cobbles. Maybe. It shouldn't take anything away from Nibali. He won. Dawg and Bertie did not. That's the only evidence. And BTW, I had my marbles on Contador. And I hate Vino. I puked when he won the OG, and again when he was all smiles on the Champs Elysees. My wildest dream was that he and Nibali would leave their hotel in handcuffs the morning after the ITT, cops carrying bags of chemicals with a spanish address on it. Yes, at the 2014 TdF he was not the "normal" Nibali that you accurately described. He was a better, a much better Nibali. The fact is: he won.

 

[Mellow Velo]

you were the one who brought up the 2nd places.

And you were one of those who said they were for the first best loser.

What part of "international races" do you not understand?

No idea what you are referring to.

 

[Red Rick]

Second in the Dauphine.
For someone who doesn't rate podiums in the monuments at all, you now want to claim placings in stages within a race as being the qualification for being the best all year?

Yeah, right.

Something tells me haven't been following this sport for too long.

As for not winning any international races between FW and the Vuelta, you really ought to check the date on this:

http://www.procyclingstats.com/race/Clasica_Ciclista_San_Sebastian_2014

That is what is commonly know as a "Classics".

I was only proving that your facts are wrong, I never said they were relevant.

I do admit I forgot San Sebastion though, its still 3 months between Fleche en CSS though, so the difference is only something like 2 weeks

In before next dumb argument

 

[LaFlorecita]

And you were one of those who said they were for the first best loser.

which is indeed true.

No idea what you are referring to.

San Sebastian is just another Spanish (ie not international) race Valverde won, which is what I thought Red Rick meant.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I was only proving that your facts are wrong, I never said they were relevant.

I do admit I forgot San Sebastion though, its still 3 months between Fleche en CSS though, so the difference is only something like 2 weeks

In before next dumb argument

All he wants is that we call Valverde the best rider of the year, well MV, here you go, Valverde is awesome, best rider of the year, what a champion, yada yada, happy now?

 

[Red Rick]

All he wants is that we call Valverde the best rider of the year, well MV, here you go, Valverde is awesome, best rider of the year, what a champion, yada yada, happy now?

In that case, yadayadayada, on to the next one, where are all our futile between season dumb polls