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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM-P-ubt5Wg
Pretty disrespectful, and totally uncalled for. UFC showing their true colors.
What kind of a message does that send to every other athlete who signed a contract with Dana White?
Dominate for ten years. Too bad. They'll hang you out to dry as it suits them.
Is that why they released this?StyrbjornSterki said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM-P-ubt5Wg
Pretty disrespectful, and totally uncalled for. UFC showing their true colors.
What kind of a message does that send to every other athlete who signed a contract with Dana White?
Dominate for ten years. Too bad. They'll hang you out to dry as it suits them.
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I have no clue to what degree White micromanages the productions. He doesn't impress me as the artsy-fartsy type, probably just winds it up and lets it go.
But he definitely has favourites. Help him out of a jam and he's your mate forever. But turn him down just once and you'll rue the day. There's a lot of back stories the fans never learn the details of.
I don't know their rationale but this isn't the first time. The same happened when Stephan Struve fainted in the locker room before a bout scheduled with Matt Mitrione (presumed panic attack). Struve was sobbing inconsolably.Jacques de Molay said:
I have no clue to what degree White micromanages the productions. He doesn't impress me as the artsy-fartsy type, probably just winds it up and lets it go.
But he definitely has favourites. Help him out of a jam and he's your mate forever. But turn him down just once and you'll rue the day. There's a lot of back stories the fans never learn the details of.
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Dana White has decided to give Holly Holm her first title defence before the R3 rematch. No word yet as to timing or opponent. However, as this change doubtless was the result of much whinging from Holm's camp, I think their first choice, Meisha Tate, also likely will get the nod.
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This is the kind of nonsense you have to listen to about McGregor.
http://m.rte.ie/sport/mma/2016/0113/759779-oireachtas-to-consider-putting-mcgregor-on-1-coin/
http://m.rte.ie/sport/mma/2016/0113/759779-oireachtas-to-consider-putting-mcgregor-on-1-coin/
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R3 has begged off on the UFC 200 return. This supposedly is because of delays to the commencement of filming of her new movie. Smells to me like Dana had a heads-up about this, which is why Holm is now scheduled to fight Tate at UFC 197 (05 March, Las Vegas).
R3 has said all along that the UFC was never the end game and she would use it as a springboard to bigger and better. This would seem to me to be consistent with that philosophy. Not going to let a silly thing like a loss stand in the way of future endeavours.
I posted in a thread in the Clinic that NSAC has knocked back Nick Diaz's suspension to 18 months, with credit for time served.
And it appears to have slipped the mind of UFC legend Royce Gracie to pay his taxes from, oh, say, 2007 through 2011. Back taxes and penalties come to about $1.15M USD.
R3 has said all along that the UFC was never the end game and she would use it as a springboard to bigger and better. This would seem to me to be consistent with that philosophy. Not going to let a silly thing like a loss stand in the way of future endeavours.
I posted in a thread in the Clinic that NSAC has knocked back Nick Diaz's suspension to 18 months, with credit for time served.
And it appears to have slipped the mind of UFC legend Royce Gracie to pay his taxes from, oh, say, 2007 through 2011. Back taxes and penalties come to about $1.15M USD.
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It's been brewing for some time but I think this weekend's UFC Fight Night 86 finally will motivate Dana White to get off the pot and do something about eye pokes. Matt Mitrione always steps up and never turns him down when Dana calls, and he deserves better than this.
Potentially disturbing image here.
That's what the aftermath of a fractured orbital floor looks like. Matt got that because Travis Browne went full-goose Three Stooges on him and "accidentally" poked him in the eye, not once but twice.
The incredible bit is that Browne didn't get so much as a single point deducted. Mitrione was looked at by the ring doctor and allowed to continue, so it is improbable that anyone could have known the extent of the damage at that moment, but that is exactly the point. Apart from the potential risk of permanent loss of sight, where's the fairness in expecting a fighter to continue after receiving this sort of injury, the true extent of which cannot be determined until after the fight?
Matt lost the contest, but in no small part due to the fact that Browne (legally) targeted the eye he already (illegally) had inflicted a devastating injury on.
The UFC has elevated MMA to the highest plateau it ever has achieved, probably as high as it ever could be without engaging in fights to the death. And it continues to evolve. In the short time I have been a fan, I can trace the progression of what the most effective techniques are. And Dana and the Fertittas are growing fat from it (their casino company is about to go public, BTW). They can't expect athletes to invest in elevating their game in order to compete at this level if they don't offer them sensible protections to their health and livelihood.
The current rules allow that if a fighter can't continue as result of an eye poke early enough in the fight, it goes down as a NC. I know the UFC have had an "eye-friendly" glove in development for at least three years. If it still isn't ready for prime time, they need to introduce penalties so draconian as to cause the fighters to self-police. Take it out of the referee's discretion. The first eye-poke should result in a mandatory point(s) penalty and the second a mandatory DQ. If not a DQ on the first occurrence. And if the ring doctor stops the fight on account of an eye injury, and video replay shows it was a finger poke did the damage, that too should be a mandatory DQ.
It's important to note, too, that it's the same fighters who keep having "accidental" eye-pokes over and over. Jon 'Bones' Jones, Josh Koscheck, and Michael 'The Count' Bisping come to mind. Which gives rise to suspicions that they're using it as just another part of their offensive arsenal. Regardless of intent, they clearly are more effective as fighters as a consequence of the illegal tactic.
I also know Matt Mitrione is one of those fighters Dana lauds for his unflinching willingness to do whatever is required to support the company. How Dana responds to this incident I think will speak volumes about whether he still has a heart or whether it was excised and replaced with a P&L ledger.
Potentially disturbing image here.
That's what the aftermath of a fractured orbital floor looks like. Matt got that because Travis Browne went full-goose Three Stooges on him and "accidentally" poked him in the eye, not once but twice.
The incredible bit is that Browne didn't get so much as a single point deducted. Mitrione was looked at by the ring doctor and allowed to continue, so it is improbable that anyone could have known the extent of the damage at that moment, but that is exactly the point. Apart from the potential risk of permanent loss of sight, where's the fairness in expecting a fighter to continue after receiving this sort of injury, the true extent of which cannot be determined until after the fight?
Matt lost the contest, but in no small part due to the fact that Browne (legally) targeted the eye he already (illegally) had inflicted a devastating injury on.
The UFC has elevated MMA to the highest plateau it ever has achieved, probably as high as it ever could be without engaging in fights to the death. And it continues to evolve. In the short time I have been a fan, I can trace the progression of what the most effective techniques are. And Dana and the Fertittas are growing fat from it (their casino company is about to go public, BTW). They can't expect athletes to invest in elevating their game in order to compete at this level if they don't offer them sensible protections to their health and livelihood.
The current rules allow that if a fighter can't continue as result of an eye poke early enough in the fight, it goes down as a NC. I know the UFC have had an "eye-friendly" glove in development for at least three years. If it still isn't ready for prime time, they need to introduce penalties so draconian as to cause the fighters to self-police. Take it out of the referee's discretion. The first eye-poke should result in a mandatory point(s) penalty and the second a mandatory DQ. If not a DQ on the first occurrence. And if the ring doctor stops the fight on account of an eye injury, and video replay shows it was a finger poke did the damage, that too should be a mandatory DQ.
It's important to note, too, that it's the same fighters who keep having "accidental" eye-pokes over and over. Jon 'Bones' Jones, Josh Koscheck, and Michael 'The Count' Bisping come to mind. Which gives rise to suspicions that they're using it as just another part of their offensive arsenal. Regardless of intent, they clearly are more effective as fighters as a consequence of the illegal tactic.
I also know Matt Mitrione is one of those fighters Dana lauds for his unflinching willingness to do whatever is required to support the company. How Dana responds to this incident I think will speak volumes about whether he still has a heart or whether it was excised and replaced with a P&L ledger.
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As far as losing a point, I think that a fighter loses a point on the third infraction, and Browne only had two so no point deduction. It could be argued that they lose a point on the second infraction. Browne seemed sincerely sorry in his post fight interview.StyrbjornSterki said:It's been brewing for some time but I think this weekend's UFC Fight Night 86 finally will motivate Dana White to get off the pot and do something about eye pokes. Matt Mitrione always steps up and never turns him down when Dana calls, and he deserves better than this.
Potentially disturbing image here.
That's what the aftermath of a fractured orbital floor looks like. Matt got that because Travis Browne went full-goose Three Stooges on him and "accidentally" poked him in the eye, not once but twice.
The incredible bit is that Browne didn't get so much as a single point deducted. Mitrione was looked at by the ring doctor and allowed to continue, so it is improbable that anyone could have known the extent of the damage at that moment, but that is exactly the point. Apart from the potential risk of permanent loss of sight, where's the fairness in expecting a fighter to continue after receiving this sort of injury, the true extent of which cannot be determined until after the fight?
Matt lost the contest, but in no small part due to the fact that Browne (legally) targeted the eye he already (illegally) had inflicted a devastating injury on.
The UFC has elevated MMA to the highest plateau it ever has achieved, probably as high as it ever could be without engaging in fights to the death. And it continues to evolve. In the short time I have been a fan, I can trace the progression of what the most effective techniques are. And Dana and the Fertittas are growing fat from it (their casino company is about to go public, BTW). They can't expect athletes to invest in elevating their game in order to compete at this level if they don't offer them sensible protections to their health and livelihood.
The current rules allow that if a fighter can't continue as result of an eye poke early enough in the fight, it goes down as a NC. I know the UFC have had an "eye-friendly" glove in development for at least three years. If it still isn't ready for prime time, they need to introduce penalties so draconian as to cause the fighters to self-police. Take it out of the referee's discretion. The first eye-poke should result in a mandatory point(s) penalty and the second a mandatory DQ. If not a DQ on the first occurrence. And if the ring doctor stops the fight on account of an eye injury, and video replay shows it was a finger poke did the damage, that too should be a mandatory DQ.
It's important to note, too, that it's the same fighters who keep having "accidental" eye-pokes over and over. Jon 'Bones' Jones, Josh Koscheck, and Michael 'The Count' Bisping come to mind. Which gives rise to suspicions that they're using it as just another part of their offensive arsenal. Regardless of intent, they clearly are more effective as fighters as a consequence of the illegal tactic.
I also know Matt Mitrione is one of those fighters Dana lauds for his unflinching willingness to do whatever is required to support the company. How Dana responds to this incident I think will speak volumes about whether he still has a heart or whether it was excised and replaced with a P&L ledger.
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Now Mitrione is saying the ref and/or ring doctor should have exercised the common sense he failed to. Better he should have left that one alone. Makes him sound whingy, all wrong for his idiom.
The problem with that rule is it effectively legalises the first two pokes, a 'loophole' that the Jon Joneses and Michael Bispings of the world gladly will avail themselves of.jmdirt said:
Now Mitrione is saying the ref and/or ring doctor should have exercised the common sense he failed to. Better he should have left that one alone. Makes him sound whingy, all wrong for his idiom.
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True, it does make two eye pokes legal. MMA fighters need to be able to use their hands to grapple, but that means that they can use their fingers for eye pokes as well. I've seen a few of the "safety" gloves and the compromise is phalanges mobility issues.StyrbjornSterki said:
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2016 is already showing the same bad luck for the UFC as 2014 did, but they appear to be more inclined to roll with the punches.
2014 was riddled with injuries and suspensions, and they canceled UFC 176 because of a diminished fight card (only one other, UFC 151 in 2012, had been outright canceled). Cain Velasquez was first to bow out of 196, then Fabricio Werdum, before a replacement for Velasquez could be announced (I wonder if it's because Jon Jones tweeted he would take the fight at heavyweight?). But instead of cancelling it, UFC 196 has been rebranded as a Fight Night and what was to have been UFC 197 is rechristened as UFC 196. The principle difference being Fight Nights are not PPV events. I have to wonder whether the UFC will offer refunds to fans who had bought tickets to the live event, expecting to see a heavyweight title fight.
I have to admit I had not got wind of White's dislike for Jose Aldo until after The Notorious one put him to sleep, but now it's looking like that might indeed be the case. Aldo has posted on Facebook (in English no less),
Asked about Aldo's "demand," DW stated,
How I would have loved to be a fly on the wall when Aldo got that bit of news.
Consider the case of Dominic Cruz, who, previous to his 17 January fight against T.J. Dillishaw, had had such a string of injuries that he only had fought once since 2011. Yet Dana gave him a title shot in his first comeback fight. Cruz still has not lost a fight since 2007 (an 11-fight win streak), but prior to the McGregor KTFO, Aldo had not lost since 2005 (a 17-fight win streak). I've got to think there's a back story there that no one is illuminating.
2014 was riddled with injuries and suspensions, and they canceled UFC 176 because of a diminished fight card (only one other, UFC 151 in 2012, had been outright canceled). Cain Velasquez was first to bow out of 196, then Fabricio Werdum, before a replacement for Velasquez could be announced (I wonder if it's because Jon Jones tweeted he would take the fight at heavyweight?). But instead of cancelling it, UFC 196 has been rebranded as a Fight Night and what was to have been UFC 197 is rechristened as UFC 196. The principle difference being Fight Nights are not PPV events. I have to wonder whether the UFC will offer refunds to fans who had bought tickets to the live event, expecting to see a heavyweight title fight.
I have to admit I had not got wind of White's dislike for Jose Aldo until after The Notorious one put him to sleep, but now it's looking like that might indeed be the case. Aldo has posted on Facebook (in English no less),
Asked about Aldo's "demand," DW stated,
How I would have loved to be a fly on the wall when Aldo got that bit of news.
Consider the case of Dominic Cruz, who, previous to his 17 January fight against T.J. Dillishaw, had had such a string of injuries that he only had fought once since 2011. Yet Dana gave him a title shot in his first comeback fight. Cruz still has not lost a fight since 2007 (an 11-fight win streak), but prior to the McGregor KTFO, Aldo had not lost since 2005 (a 17-fight win streak). I've got to think there's a back story there that no one is illuminating.
Well I can't stand Dana White, but Aldo needs to STFU and go beat couple of people then start talking ***. He got knocked out in 13 seconds! If that would have happened to me i would be too embarrassed to talk this type of ***. On top of that, he deserves to be punished for losing like that to that loud mouth.
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Benson Henderson has moved to Bellator. Seems odd, he's won his two most recent fights in the UFC, and at welterweight. I'm curious about his motives. Bellator is giving him a welterweight title shot against Andrey Koreshkov on his first fight (Bellator 152, 22 April, Uncasville, Connecticut).
Cormier-Jones2 had been scheduled on that same day in New York but the UFC hasn't managed to get cage fighting permitted in the state, so it's postponed. The resched probably will be announced next week.
Cormier-Jones2 had been scheduled on that same day in New York but the UFC hasn't managed to get cage fighting permitted in the state, so it's postponed. The resched probably will be announced next week.
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Sage Northcutt Went to Emergency Clinic for Strep Throat Before Loss
Is he for real? I mean, he seems to be genuine, but how the hell does anyone remain so positive and upbeat all the time!?
There seems to be a reason for that. I was wondering why he looked somewhat flat-footed and wasn't employing more of his kicking prowess early on. I suppose this explains it.jmdirt said:
Sage Northcutt Went to Emergency Clinic for Strep Throat Before Loss
Is he for real? I mean, he seems to be genuine, but how the hell does anyone remain so positive and upbeat all the time!?
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California State Athletic Commission has banned "extreme weight-cutting." Plans to monitor hydration through specific gravity of urine. Under the circumstances, I wonder if the greater effect won't be more to drive professional MMA competitions to other states (and I'm thinking Nevada in particular) rather than to make the sport safer. I'm thinking to be successful, something like this either needs to be implemented nation-wide, or from the top down. Maybe I'm being naïve but I don't think it will have the desired impact until they're doing it in Vegas.
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Busy MMA news day. Tim Means is out of the 26 February Fight Night 83 main event against Donald 'Cowboy' Cerrone owing to a USADA violation (another notch on USADA's anti-PEDs pistol). Cerrone, meanwhile, rolled his truck but walked away unhurt.
Dana White says he should have pulled Sage Northcutt from his UFC on Fox 18 appearance owing to his illness. What's that they say about hindsight?
Anderson 'the Spider' Silva wants four (4!) UFC fights in 2016. Obviously intends clawing his way back into middleweight contention. He last fought four times in one year in 2006. His next scheduled is against Michael Bisping, 27 February, UFC Fight Night 84 in London, so he could conceivable pull it off, provided he fights again every 102 days. Chris Weidman is the only UFC fighter who thus far has proved himself immune to the Spider's Jedi mind tricks, so with Weidman no longer holding the belt, perhaps he see light at the end of the tunnel.
Speaking of Weidman, he gets his rematch against Luke Rockhold at UFC 199, some time in June, date and location TBA.
Cain Velasquez has undergone back surgery (said to have been successful) to mend the injury that forced him out of UFC 196, which subsequently was demoted to UFC on Fox 18.
And Večernji list reported last month (I'm a little behind in my Croatian reading) that Mirko Cro Cop received a letter from USADA that his most recent PEDs control was negative. If true, USADA's announcement of his positive was in error, the test failed to detect Cro Cop's HGH use, and he confessed needlessly.
Dana White says he should have pulled Sage Northcutt from his UFC on Fox 18 appearance owing to his illness. What's that they say about hindsight?
Anderson 'the Spider' Silva wants four (4!) UFC fights in 2016. Obviously intends clawing his way back into middleweight contention. He last fought four times in one year in 2006. His next scheduled is against Michael Bisping, 27 February, UFC Fight Night 84 in London, so he could conceivable pull it off, provided he fights again every 102 days. Chris Weidman is the only UFC fighter who thus far has proved himself immune to the Spider's Jedi mind tricks, so with Weidman no longer holding the belt, perhaps he see light at the end of the tunnel.
Speaking of Weidman, he gets his rematch against Luke Rockhold at UFC 199, some time in June, date and location TBA.
Cain Velasquez has undergone back surgery (said to have been successful) to mend the injury that forced him out of UFC 196, which subsequently was demoted to UFC on Fox 18.
And Večernji list reported last month (I'm a little behind in my Croatian reading) that Mirko Cro Cop received a letter from USADA that his most recent PEDs control was negative. If true, USADA's announcement of his positive was in error, the test failed to detect Cro Cop's HGH use, and he confessed needlessly.
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I have been a supporter of "walking weight" wrestling, boxing, and MMA for 20 years and would love to see it as part of governing body rules so that it doesn't matter what state or country they fight in. The NCAA has tightened it a bit, but they could do more.StyrbjornSterki said:
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Bones is in the dock, again, this time for speeding and failing to have the customary papers in the car. The magnitude of the violation is nowhere cited but I presume it must be garden-variety speeding, else he'd have been cited for reckless driving or some such. He goes to court in two days (Wednesday), and the judge potentially could revoke is probation, so he'd best go easy on the 'tude.
Speaking of Bones, Jones-Cormier II is now slated for 23 April, MGM Grand, Vegas.
Bones is in the dock, again, this time for speeding and failing to have the customary papers in the car. The magnitude of the violation is nowhere cited but I presume it must be garden-variety speeding, else he'd have been cited for reckless driving or some such. He goes to court in two days (Wednesday), and the judge potentially could revoke is probation, so he'd best go easy on the 'tude.
Speaking of Bones, Jones-Cormier II is now slated for 23 April, MGM Grand, Vegas.
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Alex Nicholson suffered "bilateral jaw fractures and broken nose" at this past weekend's Fight Night 82. The jaw was a re-injury, and it makes an audible 'snap' when it goes while Misha Cirkunov is applying a neck crank. There's a reason thy this sport's motto is "Tap or Snap." The video is on YouTube, if that sort of thing appeals to you. Alex gets six weeks medical suspension (for the jaw) and two months no contact for an eyelid cut. Unless Alex has that jaw plated, I'd say you can stick him with a fork, he's done.
The head of Japan's Rizin MMA promotions reportedly is in the USA trying to sign a fight deal between the suspended (former) UFC fighter Wanderlei Silva and the legendary Fedor Emelianenko. The proposed fight would be in Japan, where Wandy's suspension by the NSAC for dodging an OOC has no teeth.
After all these years of fans frothing at the mouth to see Fedor, the reputed "GOAT," lured into fighting top-level western MMA competitors, at age 39 he finally gets a UFC wash-out of the same age who only ever was a title contender once. Between them they're near as makes no difference 80 years old, which isn't as bad as the geriatric world championship between Randy Couture and Mark Coleman, which was the so-called "main event" at UFC 109 back in 2010, but it's getting close. Tito Ortiz sayshe wants some of Fedor, too, but he's two years older than Fedor/Wandy. At this rate, Ali-Foreman II can't be far behind.
The head of Japan's Rizin MMA promotions reportedly is in the USA trying to sign a fight deal between the suspended (former) UFC fighter Wanderlei Silva and the legendary Fedor Emelianenko. The proposed fight would be in Japan, where Wandy's suspension by the NSAC for dodging an OOC has no teeth.
After all these years of fans frothing at the mouth to see Fedor, the reputed "GOAT," lured into fighting top-level western MMA competitors, at age 39 he finally gets a UFC wash-out of the same age who only ever was a title contender once. Between them they're near as makes no difference 80 years old, which isn't as bad as the geriatric world championship between Randy Couture and Mark Coleman, which was the so-called "main event" at UFC 109 back in 2010, but it's getting close. Tito Ortiz sayshe wants some of Fedor, too, but he's two years older than Fedor/Wandy. At this rate, Ali-Foreman II can't be far behind.
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Wandy's twitter account is showing what appears to be a Rizin teaser for a 26 August fight against Fedor. But I can find no official (or semi-official) confirmation. Silva had nearly 30 wights in Pride, and he's still a fan favourite in Japan.
This Friday's Bellator 149 will feature two MMA legends, Royce Gracie-vs-Ken Shamrock (who have a combined age of 101). These two first fought in 1993 (UFC 1, which Gracie went on to win), when Gracie submitted Shamrock, and again in 1995 (UFC 5), when they fought to a draw. Shamrock last fought at Bellator 138 of last year, but he gassed early and Kimbo Slice TKO'd him in less than two and half minutes. I doubt he will fare any better against Gracie, who has a low-energy fighting style, and legend holds he could hold his breath 30 minutes if it'd give him a "W."
This Friday's Bellator 149 will feature two MMA legends, Royce Gracie-vs-Ken Shamrock (who have a combined age of 101). These two first fought in 1993 (UFC 1, which Gracie went on to win), when Gracie submitted Shamrock, and again in 1995 (UFC 5), when they fought to a draw. Shamrock last fought at Bellator 138 of last year, but he gassed early and Kimbo Slice TKO'd him in less than two and half minutes. I doubt he will fare any better against Gracie, who has a low-energy fighting style, and legend holds he could hold his breath 30 minutes if it'd give him a "W."
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