Most memorable doped perfomances?

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ppanther92

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On top of my head, I so far pretty much had:

Armstrong in Sestriere 1999 (first Tour I watched)
Landis Morzine 2006
Contador Verbier 2009
Froome Ventoux 2013

Will have to add today.

Why only TdF moments? Well, thats the race where its just most memorable for me personally.
 
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Watched the stage doing a recovery ride on the turbo. The ride was so radioactive that I had trouble keeping power in zone 1 thousands of klicks away.

One for the ages for sure.
 
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ppanther92 said:
On top of my head, I so far pretty much had:

Armstrong in Sestriere 1999 (first Tour I watched)
Landis Morzine 2006
Contador Verbier 2009
Froome Ventoux 2013

Will have to add today.

Why only TdF moments? Well, thats the race where its just most memorable for me personally.
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The TdF is the biggest prize on the calendar, so that's where the biggest pros at the dark arts stuff come out of the woodwork & do what they've got do to win at all costs.

The problem with all of those previous examples you mention is the rivals on those specific days could be handwaved away as not very good for whatever reason (Oscar Pereiro with Landis 2006, Alex Zülle with Lance 1999, Lance & Schleck with Condator 2009 & Contador with Froome on Ventoux 2013).

But one of the most talked about "memorable" performances ever was of course Pog at LPDBF in 2020. A performance Pog just repeated in the Tour today on stage 16... but he still got smashed by Vingegaard. So today was like LPDBF + 1. Like an upgrade on the already unfathomable. So... I'm really at a loss when it comes to naming anything remotely similar to what we just witnessed. It's the most "memorable" one yet, IMO.

And I don't know why Jumbo did it, i.e. 30 seconds + another demolition on Loze tomorrow would have sufficed.
 
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I think what’s most memorable about this is the sheer gulf in performance. His gap to Pogacar is already historically large relative to TT length, but take him out of it and he’s literally putting 3+ minutes into the best riders in the world in a 22km TT. Not even the 90s saw anything that insane.
 
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Rackham said:
And I don't know why Jumbo did it, i.e. 30 seconds + another demolition on Loze tomorrow would have sufficed.
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Last year Vingegaard almost crashed in the final ITT of a Tour he had pretty much already won because he decided to take insane risks going downhill, presumably just in case Pogačar could threaten Van Aert's stage win. A completely unnecessary risk that could have cost Jumbo everything

I just think they're not very smart
 
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Tim Cahill

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Think this one beats Landis for me. Not that it wasn't incredible of course but there were at least some group dynamics that contributed to that one. Here Vingegaard just crushed everyone head to head with no race situations that can explain the absurdity of the gaps.
 
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Tim Cahill said:
Think this one beats Landis for me. Not that it wasn't incredible of course but there were at least some group dynamics that contributed to that one. Here Vingegaard just crushed everyone head to head with no race situations that can explain the absurdity of the gaps.
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it feels Landis like to me, in terms of how it felt to me watching it back then as a completely absurd performance, but with Landis you kind of knew straight away he was using something illicit that had made it like that, no one was trying to pretend it was just a special ride by an exceptional athlete or because he'd just trained extra harder for it.

here I dont know how to explain it, or why if you are capable of that level of performance you wait 2 weeks to show it, and now its not about bonus seconds or anything its how many minutes can he put in before Paris right ?
 
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Tim Cahill

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awavey said:
it feels Landis like to me, in terms of how it felt to me watching it back then as a completely absurd performance, but with Landis you kind of knew straight away he was using something illicit that had made it like that, no one was trying to pretend it was just a special ride by an exceptional athlete or because he'd just trained extra harder for it.

here I dont know how to explain it, or why if you are capable of that level of performance you wait 2 weeks to show it, and now its not about bonus seconds or anything its how many minutes can he put in before Paris right ?
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Likely yes, unless clinically speaking the re-fuelling strategies were different between the teams and Pogacar was saving his for tonight and Loze rather than on the rest day. See: Bjerg/Mcnulty absolutely flying out of the blue on the Peyragudes stage last year, also interesting was Pog rising from the dead on the Tourmalet this year a day after getting dropped.
 
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Landis hard to beat and Ricco "the Cobra"as well as Pantani and Armstrong multiple times. As for the current generation, doing the double and dominating both races, might be time for the triple as well................
 
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movingtarget said:
Landis hard to beat and Ricco "the Cobra"as well as Pantani and Armstrong multiple times. As for the current generation, doing the double and dominating both races, might be time for the triple as well................
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Liege, Strade and Catalunya too. Lol outside of something Merckx may have done what can compare to that season?
 
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