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All posted upthread. It's not proof but taken together it makes for a tadbit more than just baseless speculation. I wouldn't call it 'thin evidence'. For Cancellara 2010 the same. If you've followed the story, Durand's analyses, the bike swaps, the type of accelleration, the mechanics he's worked with, etc, then you couldn't possibly conclude that the evidence is 'thin'. But sure, in many other cases the evidence is thinner. It's still good to speculate though, because you never know what others might bring to the table.
When? That's going to be a matter of historical coincidence, as it was with Lance.
Not entirely true. Some of the info is complementary. For example Lemond spoke about F1 engineers working on motor isolation. CBS did not. CBS in turn mentioned the UCI blocking an investigation into Sky's wheels. Lemond did not.red_flanders said:...
Lemond isn't a primary source. He's just repeating what we all already have heard. So is 60 minutes. We certainly have a couple of people saying they've been used in WT races but most of what you're citing here is the same source.
You make it sound like it's a bad thing. If rampant speculation happens in the press, i'd probably agree it should not, because it could damage innocent riders. But in here, why not? The UCI and the voiceless riders are basically begging us.Beyond that there is rampant speculation as to who and when which relies on fairly thin evidence.
agree.We know it's probably happening, we have little reason to believe it's not.
We can make pretty good educated guesses though. For instance Lance and a few others sticking to downtube shifters up to 2005/6, Lance making handmovements under his saddle, Varjas fitting the old motor in a 1999 Trek bike, Lance working with Smart in 2004, Lance's TT bike stolen and returned without wheels, etc.Who and when? Not so much.
All posted upthread. It's not proof but taken together it makes for a tadbit more than just baseless speculation. I wouldn't call it 'thin evidence'. For Cancellara 2010 the same. If you've followed the story, Durand's analyses, the bike swaps, the type of accelleration, the mechanics he's worked with, etc, then you couldn't possibly conclude that the evidence is 'thin'. But sure, in many other cases the evidence is thinner. It's still good to speculate though, because you never know what others might bring to the table.
agree, and i'm confident it will come.Will be nice at some point to get some hard evidence.
When? That's going to be a matter of historical coincidence, as it was with Lance.