Motor doping thread

[zlev11]

did Remco's motor throttle hang at the end of the stage or did he just forget to turn it off?

 

[kingjr]

did Remco's motor throttle hang at the end of the stage or did he just forget to turn it off?

The road went downhill

 

[zlev11]

The road went downhill

motors work on downhills too

 

[pastronef]

did Remco's motor throttle hang at the end of the stage or did he just forget to turn it off?

ffs, there it goes the motor conspiracist . nì un dia sin

 

[kingjr]

motors work on downhills too

The point is that you don't need a motor to accelerate downhill, gravity does that for you

 

[zlev11]

The point is that you don't need a motor to accelerate downhill, gravity does that for you

did his brakes fail?

 

[kingjr]

did his brakes fail?

No, the wheels locked

 

[zlev11]

ffs, there it goes the motor conspiracist . nì un dia sin

keep believing in miracles

 

[zlev11]

No, the wheels locked

they absolutely did not. he was on the brakes and the bike kept *** going.

 

[kingjr]

they absolutely did not

Alternatively, he didn't fully hit the brakes to prevent them from locking. Any explanation makes more sense than yours in any case.

 

[pastronef]

keep believing in miracles

look, I really want them to find those INVISIBLE motors you people have been blabbing about for a few years. just to hear saying "we were right"
but it's getting old, it's been a while.
if Varjas and Vayer and some French journos useless investigations that came to nothing is all you have, then well, I'll keep believing in miracles

 

[zlev11]

look, I really want them to find those INVISIBLE motors you people have been blabbing about for a few years. just to hear saying "we were right"
but it's getting old, it's been a while.
if Varjas and Vayer and some French journos useless investigations that came to nothing is all you have, then well, I'll keep believing in miracles

yes keep bringing up Varjas and Vayer while completely ignoring the fact that riders have personally told Greg Lemond that they knew for sure of riders on their own team using motors. Lappartient has said someone getting caught with a motor would "end the sport". now think about what incentive the UCI would have for catching a rider (publicly) with a motor? there is none.

 

[SHAD0W93]

did his brakes fail?

No but his hands were up in the air celebrating while on a downhill. He couldn’t start braking before it was too late. Either brake hard and crash due to it locking up on a downhill at high speed or brake and hope the people get out of the way.

 

[Andre]

I first heard of motors with Cancelara passing Boonen like he was standing still. I never saw the Froome incident. I did see Kuss which appear ridiculous fast in Tourmalet. Then I read that the organizers or whoever investigates these things would not want it to come out as it would destroy the sport. My question is: don't they check the bikes at the end of the race?

 

[markene2]

I first heard of motors with Cancelara passing Boonen like he was standing still. I never saw the Froome incident. I did see Kuss which appear ridiculous fast in Tourmalet. Then I read that the organizers or whoever investigates these things would not want it to come out as it would destroy the sport. My question is: don't they check the bikes at the end of the race?

They check with an ipad that does NOTHING. they have no interest in it ever being found, only way it happens is if a thrid party raids the hotel and destroys the bikes.
They let it run lose with CSC and Breschel and Cancellara, then later team wide with Sky. so now there is no stopping it, thats why climbing times is no longer relevant to compare to the past, they all run on electrical bikes.

 

[hrotha]

Bit tricky to reconcile "they're all on electric bikes" with "the electric bikes give them their edge" though

 

[Cookster15]

They check with an ipad that does NOTHING. they have no interest in it ever being found, only way it happens is if a thrid party raids the hotel and destroys the bikes.
They let it run lose with CSC and Breschel and Cancellara, then later team wide with Sky. so now there is no stopping it, thats why climbing times is no longer relevant to compare to the past, they all run on electrical bikes.

It's not about finding anything, its about deterrence so nobody even tries to destroy the sport.

As for climbing times, Pantani still holds the AdH record with a gap of about 2.5 minutes to Pog/Vingo/Thomas in 2022 TdF. So electric bikes still have some catching up to do

Fastest Alpe d'huez ascent in 16 years

Col du Galibier 2022:8,6 km@6,8%---23:45---average speed 21.73 km/h(Louis Meintjes) ---24:00---average spe...

www.climbing-records.com

 

[markene2]

It's not about finding anything, its about deterrence so nobody even tries to destroy the sport.

As for climbing times, Pantani still holds the AdH record with a gap of about 2.5 minutes to Pog/Vingo/Thomas in 2022 TdF. So electric bikes still have some catching up to do

Fastest Alpe d'huez ascent in 16 years

Col du Galibier 2022:8,6 km@6,8%---23:45---average speed 21.73 km/h(Louis Meintjes) ---24:00---average spe...

www.climbing-records.com

I bet you belive doping tests are used catch cheaters instead of just being burried and covered up.

 

[Cookster15]

I bet you belive doping tests are used catch cheaters instead of just being burried and covered up.

Address the points I made.

 

[Monte Serra]

New claims that UCI's testing regime for mechanical doping is "irregular and inconsistent":

https://twitter.com/x/status/1706938737597251600

View: https://twitter.com/radio_cycling/status/1706938737597251600


Not that surprising, as irregular and inconsistent is a fairly good description of most of the policies of the UCI. In their podcast Radio Cycling also mention that there are persistent and ever more frequent rumours that mechanical doping is very much present within the professional peloton.

Spotify link, for those interested.

 

[zlev11]

Not that surprising, as irregular and inconsistent is a fairly good description of most of the policies of the UCI. In their podcast Radio Cycling also mention that there are persistent and ever more frequent rumours that mechanical doping is very much present within the professional peloton.

damn, but I thought this was all "conspiracy theory" (i hate that term) spread by Varjas and Festinaboy?

 

[hrotha]

damn, but I thought this was all "conspiracy theory" (i hate that term) spread by Varjas and Festinaboy?

Motor doping could be a well-known fact corroborated by a million independent witnesses and that still wouldn't make Varjas and Vayer right

 

[Izzyeviel]

yes keep bringing up Varjas and Vayer while completely ignoring the fact that riders have personally told Greg Lemond that they knew for sure of riders on their own team using motors. Lappartient has said someone getting caught with a motor would "end the sport". now think about what incentive the UCI would have for catching a rider (publicly) with a motor? there is none.

& Lemond believes motor doping isn't a thing in modern cycling...

 

[zlev11]

Motor doping could be a well-known fact corroborated by a million independent witnesses and that still wouldn't make Varjas and Vayer right

i didn't say they were right. i'm referring to how people love to come in here and smear any kind of credible rumor about motors by associating it all with them.

 

[hrotha]

i didn't say they were right. i'm referring to how people love to come in here and smear any kind of credible rumor about motors by associating it all with them.

Well I can hardly blame people for that when for the longest time virtually every motor doping story did literally come from Varjas and the 'sceptics' would lap it up uncritically