Motor doping thread

[pastronef]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1706967250228404345

https://twitter.com/x/status/1706967250228404345

View: https://twitter.com/jenscer/status/1706967250228404345


"Good to see actual numbers and not just UCI PR fluff. But all in all I don't see a huge problem here, these numbers seem to indicate a perfectly reasonable program for a problem we so far have no credible evidence to suggest it is in any way a major problem."

 

[Rob5091]

https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...-and-has-an-unbridled-ambition-i-would-go-him

"It's flying now, actually. I think it is. It's flying! I don't know if it's because of the food, the quality of the cyclists, the material... I think it's a bit of everything. I have the feeling that we are more motorcycles than bicycles."

Oscar Rodriguez lets it almost slip out ...

 

[theyoungest]

"Ik voelde me verraden, maar ik hoop dat Femke nu gelukkig is" | sporza

Het tot nu enige geval van mechanische fraude in de wielersport, het door de UCI ontdekte motortje in een fiets van Femke Van den Driessche, is nooit helemaal opgehelderd. In onze podcast Fichebak houden toenmalig bondscoach Rudy De Bie en toenmalig sportief directeur Jos Smets er een duidelijke...

sporza.be

Sporza made a report (in a podcast) about cycling's only proven case of motor doping so far, 19-year-old Belgian cyclocross talent Femke Van den Driessche. If you scroll down there's some footage of her allegedly using the motor on the Koppenberg.

This weekend it was 8 years ago that she got caught during the U23 world championships in Zolder. It has never been cleared up and she still denies the claims... but the excuses they've given have been proven to be lies.

 

[Monte Serra]

"Ik voelde me verraden, maar ik hoop dat Femke nu gelukkig is" | sporza

Het tot nu enige geval van mechanische fraude in de wielersport, het door de UCI ontdekte motortje in een fiets van Femke Van den Driessche, is nooit helemaal opgehelderd. In onze podcast Fichebak houden toenmalig bondscoach Rudy De Bie en toenmalig sportief directeur Jos Smets er een duidelijke...

sporza.be

Sporza made a report (in a podcast) about cycling's only proven case of motor doping so far, 19-year-old Belgian cyclocross talent Femke Van den Driessche. If you scroll down there's some footage of her allegedly using the motor on the Koppenberg.

This weekend it was 8 years ago that she got caught during the U23 world championships in Zolder. It has never been cleared up and she still denies the claims... but the excuses they've given have been proven to be lies.

There's also an English language podcast being produced on the same topic. The presenter worked together with the Sporza journalist, the first 4 episodes are online:

Ghost in the Machine | Stak

Eight years after the discovery of a motor in a bike at a cycling world championship race, Chris Marshall-Bell is on a mission to reveal the truth around motors in cycling...

stak.london

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

Unless you have a motor in your bike

 

[Nick2413]

Unless you have a motor in your bike

What is the general consensus on that anyway?

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

What is the general consensus on that anyway?

I thought he had a motor on his bike at P-R and RVV, and I have not changed my mind. He motor doped. We've all seenenough people on E-bikes now, to know what it looks like when they power off, and that's what it looked like.

 

[Ripper]

I thought he had a motor on his bike at P-R and RVV, and I have not changed my mind. He motor doped. We've all seenenough people on E-bikes now, to know what it looks like when they power off, and that's what it looked like.

Do you recall in the 2010 PR that Leukemans was following shortly after Canc blasted off and eventually just gesticulated and dropped off the pace, as if to say F this nonsense, this is nuts?

I am getting the feeling we are close to those sorts of things happening again (frustrated racers that is)

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

Do you recall in the 2010 PR that Leukemans was following shortly after Canc blasted off and eventually just gesticulated and dropped off the pace, as if to say F this nonsense, this is nuts?

I am getting the feeling we are close to those sorts of things happening again (frustrated racers that is)

Tom Pidcock had close to that energy in Strade.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

Do you recall in the 2010 PR that Leukemans was following shortly after Canc blasted off and eventually just gesticulated and dropped off the pace, as if to say F this nonsense, this is nuts?

I am getting the feeling we are close to those sorts of things happening again (frustrated racers that is)

...and as we discuss this: https://www.cyclingweekly.com/racin...z2_gnzfsuPq8eUYgo8LQKNVdfkVmrJXeMLe8Uw310PaMc

 

[ivanic]

Does anyone know if Froome has ever used a handlebar gear shifter?

I watched this video and it gave me chills. What does it touch with the index finger? It's a very strange movement , Zoncolan 2018

1:13 and 3:21

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8aL1W6lmfM

 

[zlev11]

Does anyone know if Froome has ever used a handlebar gear shifter?

I watched this video and it gave me chills. What does it touch with the index finger? It's a very strange movement , Zoncolan 2018

1:13 and 3:21

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8aL1W6lmfM

yes and i remember him doing the same thing on the bardonecchia stage. weird those were the only two stages he was any good on in that giro.

 

[kingjr]

Do you recall in the 2010 PR that Leukemans was following shortly after Canc blasted off and eventually just gesticulated and dropped off the pace, as if to say F this nonsense, this is nuts?

I am getting the feeling we are close to those sorts of things happening again (frustrated racers that is)

He was gesticulating at the motorbike ahead of Cancellara, which was pretty close.

 

[pastronef]

Does anyone know if Froome has ever used a handlebar gear shifter?

I watched this video and it gave me chills. What does it touch with the index finger? It's a very strange movement , Zoncolan 2018

1:13 and 3:21

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8aL1W6lmfM

yes and i remember him doing the same thing on the bardonecchia stage. weird those were the only two stages he was any good on in that giro.

yes. handlebar shifter. second 7 to 13

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Utji3iQ0sc

 

[zlev11]

yes. handlebar shifter. second 7 to 13

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Utji3iQ0sc

you're a mark

 

[pastronef]

you're a mark

I don't know what that means in English.
in any case, always a Froome fan here

 

[zlev11]

I don't know what that means in English.
in any case, always a Froome fan here

sucker, naive

 

[pastronef]

sucker, naive

ok thanks for the translation
the question I quoted with your was "does Froome use a handlebar shifter"
I posted the video of Froome's bike with that handlebar Di2 shifter.

I wonder why didn't Yates or Dumoulin used those invisible undetectable motors everybody is so sure of.
"they don't cath them!". well ffs Tom, Simon, fit a motor in your bike too!

 

[Libertine Seguros]

I don't know what that means in English.
in any case, always a Froome fan here

Late to this, but a 'mark' is a carnival term for somebody who they can bleed for money. A carnival worker would often 'mark' individuals they'd been able to dupe for their colleagues to latch on to in order to push them into playing more games.

This became adopted by pro wrestling, where a 'mark' was a fan who still believed and could be easily engineered to cheer or boo as required as a result. It's kind of evolved as a term, but 'to mark out' for something or somebody has become a term equivalent to fanboying/fangirling.

 

[pastronef]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1777970324539097541

View: https://twitter.com/UCI_media/status/1777970324539097541

https://twitter.com/x/status/1778029906720367031

View: https://twitter.com/faustonef/status/1778029906720367031

 

[TourOfSardinia]

At least it looks like the UCI are doing something...

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

At least it looks like the UCI are doing something...

Which has always been their intention



to make it look like they are doing something.

 

[shadowrider]

In the Amstel, no motor in the bike necessary, considering the motorbikes (even those of the UCI-jury) and the director's car did/do the job. But the difference with the cheating Cancellara and the race-fixing victories by van der Poel and Pogacar in past Amstelraces, is that both riders themselfes were not responsable for the cheating. The more the racedirection (and UCI by allowing it without sanctions). With the aim of getting a Dutchman and/or a big name on the honors list.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

In the Amstel, no motor in the bike necessary, considering the motorbikes (even those of the UCI-jury) and the director's car did/do the job. But the difference with the cheating Cancellara and the race-fixing victories by van der Poel and Pogacar in past Amstelraces, is that both riders themselfes were not responsable for the cheating. The more the racedirection (and UCI by allowing it without sanctions). With the aim of getting a Dutchman and/or a big name on the honors list.

Some pretty severe accusations there: care to substantiate any of them?

 

[topcat]

Some pretty severe accusations there: care to substantiate any of them?

Even if this is an opinion, it's interesting and a nice relief from the "my guy is the best, he's pushing more watts" narrative.
Thumbs up.