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Teams & Riders Nairo Quintana discussion thread

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Bernie's eyesore said:
I agree, it was a disgrace the way Froome didn't let Quintana win on Ventoux. How dare he win, he should have just waved Quintana past like a gentleman.

where did I say that he should've let him win? :rolleyes: maybe read better next time.

what happened is that froome begged quintana to help take over for conatdor was blwoing, in return froome would not attack him. then froome did just that. he attacked him. rather pathetic gesture.
 
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all_in said:
Porte will ride Giro-Tour and Henao probably Tour-Vuelta.Along with Wiggins,Kennaugh and Kiryenka Froome will have the best team on paper in mountains.

no. porte will only do the giro and maybe vuelta and henao will do the vuelta and maybe giro. no back to backs anymore. sky learned their lessons
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
where did I say that he should've let him win? :rolleyes: maybe read better next time.

what happened is that froome begged quintana to help take over for conatdor was blwoing, in return froome would not attack him. then froome did just that. he attacked him. rather pathetic gesture.

Should Froome have held back instead? The agreement was pathetic to begin with, Froome should've done all work by himself. On the other hand Quintana was pretty stupid to believe he could follow Froome to the line. Outsmarted by Froome, it's got to have been a first.
 
Pentacycle said:
Should Froome have held back instead? The agreement was pathetic to begin with, Froome should've done all work by himself. On the other hand Quintana was pretty stupid to believe he could follow Froome to the line. Outsmarted by Froome, it's got to have been a first.
easy guy: Before you call a rider who won a stage and second overall stupid. How many in the currant peleton have that kind of results by age 23? A rider like Quintana if he last a few years will definitively go down as legend. Honest just his performances this year makes him nearly that already. You can call his strategy on Ventoux as inexperience, but being the leader of one of the most powerful team in this TDF at his age and on his first tour is more than any rider I know has had to master. Compare that to people like Froome or Wiggins who had to suffer defeat for nearly a decade before they could enjoy a real win
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
where did I say that he should've let him win? :rolleyes: maybe read better next time.

what happened is that froome begged quintana to help take over for conatdor was blwoing, in return froome would not attack him. then froome did just that. he attacked him. rather pathetic gesture.

It looked like Froome had agreed to let Quintana win on the basis that Quintana did some pulling. Quintana didn't really do much pulling so Froome attacked. Nothing wrong there at all.
 
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Pentacycle said:
Should Froome have held back instead? The agreement was pathetic to begin with, Froome should've done all work by himself. On the other hand Quintana was pretty stupid to believe he could follow Froome to the line. Outsmarted by Froome, it's got to have been a first.

the only reason froome said, was because he was afraid of quintana after he couldn't drop him from teh first attack when he reached him. it shows you the true nature of froome and why quintana after that attacked on alpe after he saw froome crying for his teamcar
 
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CycloAndy said:
It looked like Froome had agreed to let Quintana win on the basis that Quintana did some pulling. Quintana didn't really do much pulling so Froome attacked. Nothing wrong there at all.

no quintana was tired and he kept riding pace as agreed with froome. then froome attacke dhim and couldn't drop him, when froome was actually doing a relay. after that quintana said f*** you and didn't go to front anymore. quintana was tired anyway but the way froome treated himw as beyond pathetic. he should not have cried for quintana's help. a coward in nature
 
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airstream said:
Alright, what realistic parcours would give Quintana chance to beat Christopher?

Plenty of mountain stages and MTF's, maybe a TTT, a hilly TT, maybe even a few technical descent finishes. He could do it.

Anything is possible in a 3 week stage race, It's no guarantee Froome will be the invincible force he was at this years Tour. Plus Quintana is still very young and it was his first Tour. Meaning he has plenty of time to improve on both his weaknesses and his strengths.
 
Apart from his seemingly superhuman abilities, Froome was led by Porte who dropped everybody with his pace and then he attacked. Without Porte and with a Quintana as leader for Movi things would have been quite different. A scenario that will probably happen next year.
 

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Afrank said:
Plenty of mountain stages and MTF's, maybe a TTT, a hilly TT, maybe even a few technical descent finishes. He could do it.

... Do you adequately realize how it is to put 3-4 mins into Froome in the mountains?.. The man lost 5' 20'' on the route which suited him like anyone else. What are we talking about about???
 
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It would be very difficult, that's a given. But I think Quintana has it in him to do battle with Froome and come out the winner. It's most definitely a possibility. Quintana isn't even in his peak years yet and he's already placed 2nd in his first Tour, he will no doubt be stronger in the years and future Tours to come.
 
willbick said:
fair enough. At least yr honest. personally i dont really understand why anyone would prefer quintana over froome. they are both great riders and seem like nice people. why the bias?

He made his breakthrough in his very first Tour at the age of 23 which means there's a decent chance that he will get even better in the mountains. Why do you see some type of bias? Why does there have to be any negative involved when someone prefers one rider over another?
 
willbick said:
what are the 'clinic issues' with froome? wouldn't they apply just as much to quintana? i firmly believe they are both clean. they both enjoy a natural benefit of being born at altitude. i assume you support quintana over froome simply because of his nationality when all is said and done. yr reasons given are not convincing. i dont understand why people support others just because of where they are born. it isnt important. what matters is what they are like as people and riders. both are good people (as far as i can tell), and great riders

Did you simply choose to ignore that part of the reason he prefers Quintana is his style? Why are you trying to create drama where there is none? In your world we aren't allowed to have preferences?
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
what? quintana is already better climber than froome. see final stages of the tour and he's only 23. quintana is the best climber I've sene since pantani. he will become a legend

great post,my new signature;)
 
airstream said:
Alright, what realistic parcours would give Quintana chance to beat Christopher?

What's to say that Froome can maintain this same level indefinitely? Wiggins showed that he wasn't willing to make the sacrifices to be at his 2012 level.
Froome has an advantage at the present but you can't discount Quintana's age and his continued maturation and development.
 
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airstream said:
... Do you adequately realize how it is to put 3-4 mins into Froome in the mountains?.. The man lost 5' 20'' on the route which suited him like anyone else. What are we talking about about???

he would not have lsot half that time was he supported properly from the beginning and if he didn't attack so early. also the only reaosn he lost so much time in the itt is because of the extreme wind. under normal cirucmstances he would lose a lot less a shis itt abilities are rather good