Teams & Riders Nairo Quintana discussion thread

[Afrank]

Aside from the obvious clinic reasons, I like Quintana more for his climbing style, I like his team more then Froomes, and for his age he has impressed me more in the mountains. Froomes domination is expected at this point and has gotten dull, you know he'll end up riding away from everyone. But that's not exactly the case with Quintana, Making it all the sweeter when he rides away for the win.

 

[karlboss]

fair enough. At least yr honest. personally i dont really understand why anyone would prefer quintana over froome. they are both great riders and seem like nice people. why the bias?

For the moment I prefer Quintana over Froome as Quintana can't time trial (comparatively), so to win a GT he'd need to do something unexpected. This would make a race a better spectacle.

 

[willbick]

Aside from the obvious clinic reasons, I like Quintana more for his climbing style, I like his team more then Froomes, and for his age he has impressed me more in the mountains. Froomes domination is expected at this point and has gotten dull, you know he'll end up riding away from everyone. But that's not exactly the case with Quintana, Making it all the sweeter when he rides away for the win.

buddy that is so lame. yr better than that.

p.s. quinatana cudda won this years vuelta no doubt

 

[willbick]

Aside from the obvious clinic reasons, I like Quintana more for his climbing style, I like his team more then Froomes, and for his age he has impressed me more in the mountains. Froomes domination is expected at this point and has gotten dull, you know he'll end up riding away from everyone. But that's not exactly the case with Quintana, Making it all the sweeter when he rides away for the win.

after 1 tour de france win lol!! i hope u werent around in the armstrong years!

 

[Afrank]

Clinic reasons will always play a part in what someones opinion of a rider is. I wish it weren't the case, but with cycling and it's recent past it's going to be the case for some time now.

And it's not just one Tour, it's his whole season.

And yes, Quintana would dominate in the vuelta. But we'll have to make do with Betancur this year. I'm hoping he goes Giro-Vuelta next year.

 

[willbick]

what are the 'clinic issues' with froome? wouldn't they apply just as much to quintana? i firmly believe they are both clean. they both enjoy a natural benefit of being born at altitude. i assume you support quintana over froome simply because of his nationality when all is said and done. yr reasons given are not convincing. i dont understand why people support others just because of where they are born. it isnt important. what matters is what they are like as people and riders. both are good people (as far as i can tell), and great riders

 

[Afrank]

I assume the clinic issues should be fairly obvious, if you want to have that discussion then we should head to the clinic. I don't want a ban.

My reasons have nothing to do with nationality, I don't know where your getting nationality playing a role in it from what I've said. It has everything to do with how they conduct themselves, their riding styles, and where they currently stand as a rider in the peloton.

 

[aarononymous]

willbick what are you not understanding? It's just called being a fan, nobody is right or wrong. I personally like Quintana for various reasons, I've been to Colombia numerous times and love the country and its people. Nairo reflects a lot of great values of their people. Plus he's young, is learning to race intelligent, climbs smoother than anyone while staying stonefaced, very refreshing for the sport. Kind of a David vs Goliath and a lot of people like the underdog now that Froome looks so dominating. Nothing against Froome he just comes off as kind of odd (not a clinic reference).

 

[willbick]

seems perfectly obvious to me that froome and quintana (and the vast majority of the peleton) are clean. i will leave u to yr prejudices

 

[aarononymous]

also sprint finishes are cool but flat racing is for triatheletes and crits

 

[Afrank]

seems perfectly obvious to me that froome and quintana (and the vast majority of the peleton) are clean. i will leave u to yr prejudices

Please direct me to where I have said anything that points towards it being about nationality in any way. My reasons for liking Quintana more are...

His climbing style.
His young, up and coming, rider position in the peloton.
His wins aren't sure things.
I prefer Movistar to Sky.

 

[hfer07]

what? quintana is already better climber than froome. see final stages of the tour and he's only 23. quintana is the best climber I've sene since pantani. he will become a legend

Indeed.

If you take Porte off the picture with no SKY train at all, with Froome left alone to fend off Quintana- we know my man Nairo will prevail without a doubt

 

[Pricey_sky]

Indeed.

If you take Porte off the picture with no SKY train at all, with Froome left alone to fend off Quintana- we know my man Nairo will prevail without a doubt

I doubt Froome will ever have to fend on his own, although Sky were below par this year Sky will be back to strength next year with Thomas fit again and Kennaugh having another years experience.

I think Quintana will put time into Froome over the course of 4/5 MTF's in a GT. The big question obviously is the length of TT. Quintana cant afford to lose 3/4 minutes each long flat TT.

 

[greenedge]

Clinic reasons will always play a part in what someones opinion of a rider is. I wish it weren't the case, but with cycling and it's recent past it's going to be the case for some time now.

And it's not just one Tour, it's his whole season.

And yes, Quintana would dominate in the vuelta. But we'll have to make do with Betancur this year. I'm hoping he goes Giro-Vuelta next year.

Porte i think would win the Giro.

Also i think Henao will be the best Colombian at the Vuelta.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

nairo with his brother dayer in a criteirum 1 week ago

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Froome had it in the bag by then. When it mattered Froome beat Quintana I.e. ventoux

WHAHAHAHAHAH, fi you really think that way. froome was blown by quintana twice and he panicked the first time and lost 30 seconds in 1 km the 2nd time. to me it's clear he can crack froome and take back serious time if he wants too. he beat him on ventoux? yeah after quintana was already on the attack for over 10 km solo and he had to screw him over by promising him to take him a long and then trying to attack him. he's a pathetic rider, who will take a lot of time on quintana in a flat itt, but there's a lot more than flat itt's in a tour. be assured they will make the course suitable to quintana to win next year as aso don't want a rider dominating anymore. that's why in 2013 they put a course wiggins could never win

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I doubt Froome will ever have to fend on his own, although Sky were below par this year Sky will be back to strength next year with Thomas fit again and Kennaugh having another years experience.

I think Quintana will put time into Froome over the course of 4/5 MTF's in a GT. The big question obviously is the length of TT. Quintana cant afford to lose 3/4 minutes each long flat TT.

yeah thomas and kennaugh are going to be really useful in the mountains

newsflash. porte will do the giro and henao will do the vuelta. wiggins is done, uran leaves sky, so what does that leave for froome?

 

[all_in]

yeah thomas and kennaugh are going to be really useful in the mountains

newsflash. porte will do the giro and henao will do the vuelta. wiggins is done, uran leaves sky, so what does that leave for froome?

Porte will ride Giro-Tour and Henao probably Tour-Vuelta.Along with Wiggins,Kennaugh and Kiryenka Froome will have the best team on paper in mountains.

 

[Gloin22]

yeah thomas and kennaugh are going to be really useful in the mountains

newsflash. porte will do the giro and henao will do the vuelta. wiggins is done, uran leaves sky, so what does that leave for froome?

Kennaugh already shed the peleton few times this year at Tour to 10 riders. And he will obviously improve. Thomas is solid as well, just look at Dauphine how he did amazing job.

Can't really view his Tour as he rode with injury all the way.

 

[Bernie's eyesore]

WHAHAHAHAHAH, fi you really think that way. froome was blown by quintana twice and he panicked the first time and lost 30 seconds in 1 km the 2nd time. to me it's clear he can crack froome and take back serious time if he wants too. he beat him on ventoux? yeah after quintana was already on the attack for over 10 km solo and he had to screw him over by promising him to take him a long and then trying to attack him. he's a pathetic rider, who will take a lot of time on quintana in a flat itt, but there's a lot more than flat itt's in a tour. be assured they will make the course suitable to quintana to win next year as aso don't want a rider dominating anymore. that's why in 2013 they put a course wiggins could never win

I agree, it was a disgrace the way Froome didn't let Quintana win on Ventoux. How dare he win, he should have just waved Quintana past like a gentleman.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

I agree, it was a disgrace the way Froome didn't let Quintana win on Ventoux. How dare he win, he should have just waved Quintana past like a gentleman.

Froome still wanted more time on his gc chalengers at the Ventoux stage, so if Quintana couldnt follow him to the finish line their deal was of. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

Have to say that I think Quintana will be better than Froome next year though

 

[willbick]

Better at what than Froome?

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Better at what than Froome?

climbing and gc (nless the tour gets back the looong flat tts, wtich I hope they don't)

 

[willbick]

The tour de france parcours would have to be mega suited to climbers for quintana to win it. Dont really see why the organizers would be that desperate for quintana to win it unless they are as much in love with him as u lot seem to be

 

[karlboss]

The tour de france parcours would have to be mega suited to climbers for quintana to win it. Dont really see why the organizers would be that desperate for quintana to win it unless they are as much in love with him as u lot seem to be

2011 parcours should give him a shot.