On pedigree and second GT form he should win this
Only slightly worried about his injury at the Tour? Got 500 on him to win the Vuelta.
Only slightly worried about his injury at the Tour? Got 500 on him to win the Vuelta.
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At least part of the first week will be in southern Spain and it's definitely going to be hot. Parts of stages 8 and 9 (2nd weekend) are in or near Murcia as Valverde said something about parts of those two stages are over his training roads and he's really looking forward to seeing all his friends and family for those two stages cheering from the side of the roads. Also it's just been well hot in all of Spain and most likely will continue throughout the Vuelta as well.
TBH, Quintana should win it.
I don't think S. Yates will survive 3 weeks, Nibali's target would be WCRR, Porte unfortunately will not finish it.
And none of the Skyborgs will manage to compete with Nairo (so sad, of course :sad: ).
I don't think S. Yates will survive 3 weeks, Nibali's target would be WCRR, Porte unfortunately will not finish it.
And none of the Skyborgs will manage to compete with Nairo (so sad, of course :sad: ).
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That said, Quintana has done nothing in the last two years that makes me think he will win. But lets see - maybe its Nairos resurrection.
Bot. Sky_Bot said:
That said, Quintana has done nothing in the last two years that makes me think he will win. But lets see - maybe its Nairos resurrection.
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Two years ago he won the Vuelta, last year he finished second to the new GT sensation in Giro, sure he messed up two TdFs but I refuse to think he totally lost it. Quintana is the main favorite for the Vuelta and if he doesn't win it or at least put up a good fight then we might worry there's some serious problems with him, his team or God knows what else.
ppanther92 said:
Two years ago he won the Vuelta, last year he finished second to the new GT sensation in Giro, sure he messed up two TdFs but I refuse to think he totally lost it. Quintana is the main favorite for the Vuelta and if he doesn't win it or at least put up a good fight then we might worry there's some serious problems with him, his team or God knows what else.
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You are in very good esteem when a second place in the Giro and a win in Tirreno is considered nothing.ppanther92 said:
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Depends on what you call hot . There have been quite a few thunderstorms in Murcia in the last week and more forecast. They seem to have reduced the temperature a bit and the forecast, if you believe it, for Malaga and through to the Murcian stages is for low 30s high 20's temperatures. I just hope that it doesn't rain like it did last year!
Koronin said:
Depends on what you call hot . There have been quite a few thunderstorms in Murcia in the last week and more forecast. They seem to have reduced the temperature a bit and the forecast, if you believe it, for Malaga and through to the Murcian stages is for low 30s high 20's temperatures. I just hope that it doesn't rain like it did last year!
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Valv.Piti Yes it actually does, although usually torrential downpours when it does. One of my friends posted a video of it raining there the other day. Of course the typical flooding when it rains.
mariposa: for Valverde (well most Spaniards), and many of us in the southern half of the US those temperatures would be normal. However, Quintana and some others have called those temperatures hot.
Valv.Piti said:
Valv.Piti Yes it actually does, although usually torrential downpours when it does. One of my friends posted a video of it raining there the other day. Of course the typical flooding when it rains.
mariposa: for Valverde (well most Spaniards), and many of us in the southern half of the US those temperatures would be normal. However, Quintana and some others have called those temperatures hot.
The most important GT of Quintana, will it be a confirmation that his development stagnates, or is there some future by winning the Vuelta ( and also a future with Movistar). Somehow i can't see Landa and Quintana in one team next year, especially with all the rumours about a troubled relationship between the two.
good start yesterday by NAiro, lost the times that was to be expected but rode better than Nibali and Porte....
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Most likely Nibali and Porte will not be a factor in this Vuelta, he has to keep an eye on S. Yates, MAL and Kelderman but nevertheless he did a good TT.
Lexman said:
Most likely Nibali and Porte will not be a factor in this Vuelta, he has to keep an eye on S. Yates, MAL and Kelderman but nevertheless he did a good TT.
Quintana is definitely my favourite for this race and I think only Yates, Lopez and possibly Porte can do anything about it. Rest doesn't have the level/shape to contest for the win.
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Scratch Porte and add Valverde as a podium chance. Quintana has looked really good in the first two stages.
Valv.Piti said:
Scratch Porte and add Valverde as a podium chance. Quintana has looked really good in the first two stages.
Q's biggest rival might be Valverde.
I wouldn't be surprised to see them 1st and 2nd on the podium.
I wouldn't be surprised to see them 1st and 2nd on the podium.
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Well, I was about to add Valverde to the list as a joker along with Porte, but I thought I would have been accused of fanboyism. He takes Porte's spot now, yes.movingtarget said:
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I put him up there anyway. Besides for a few of us, I don't think it takes much to accuse of us of fanboy/fangirl ism anyway.
Valv.Piti said:
I put him up there anyway. Besides for a few of us, I don't think it takes much to accuse of us of fanboy/fangirl ism anyway.
This Vuelta has Nairo written all over it. TBH it is Nairo's to lose. Pretty weak field - some actually weak / some have different objectives. I would really expect Nairo to take this one. Has to be patient though. Dont know why he attacked today. Not really his style.
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And riding on Carapaz' bike. He punctured 10 kms from the finish. Very effective domestique work.
Eli said:
And riding on Carapaz' bike. He punctured 10 kms from the finish. Very effective domestique work.
I prefer an attacking Quintana than following wheels. Sometimes I wonder is those attacks help him find his peak faster.
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the attacking was just like in the TDF to show himself for the sponsors without doing too much probably orders from team
Simon Yates is a very strong opponent, IMHO he is likely to winsaneguy said:
the attacking was just like in the TDF to show himself for the sponsors without doing too much probably orders from team
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It was a typical Quintana attack - attack and immediately pull to the side and looked at others - if he actually wanted to achieve something he'd have tried harder.IndianCyclist said:
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