For me, NHL already has surpassed the NBA as the third biggest professional sport in the US. Then, once the NBA starts losing fans it will be hard to get some of them back.
The players have a problem with that because it leaves them with less free agent options, and thus less lucrative contracts.It's still basically (like) a hard cap with very restrictive rules for player movement.
If Stern stops the salaries, then as some commentators note, it looks like it will be total NBA free agency unless and until a new CBA is done.on3m@n@rmy said:Is the final nail in the coffin of the 2011-2012 NBA season? It looks so. NBA players have unanimously rejected the latest offer from the league and have begun the process to disband the union.
That's the first thing that came to my mind. Some players definitely have the money to do it. Interesting times!MarkvW said:Now's the time for a new league! That would make the owners freak. Funny thing is that the players have the capital necessary to found such a league. Nice pipe dream, anyway.
As mush as i love Jordan i think Magic would be a better commissioner .on3m@n@rmy said:Wow! The league filing a suit on grounds the players did not negotiate in good faith. The players could make the same claim. Lawsuits will do nothing more than drive the players and owners further apart.
If the players started a new league, who would you want to fill the role of Stern? MJ (Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson), just to toss a few names out there, or other?
Bring back the ABA!MarkvW said:Now's the time for a new league! That would make the owners freak. Funny thing is that the players have the capital necessary to found such a league. Nice pipe dream, anyway.
No possibly way it would be Jordan. He's part owner of the Charlotte Bobcats, and a lot of players are angry with him. Magic on the other hand, I could see him stepping far enough away from the Lakers to be the commissioner of the new ABA.on3m@n@rmy said:If the players started a new league, who would you want to fill the role of Stern? MJ (Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson), just to toss a few names out there, or other?
Hmmmmm.....NBA has dropped in half since '98. Obviously that was the time of the last lockout, though the real reason for the drop in popularity at/from that time is that MJ made his second retirement.Alpe d'Huez said:NBA talk today that a deal was imminent, then when people walked out, the word was that they still weren't close. I think if the NBA can get playing by Christmas, and get 50 games in, they'll be okay. They'll still have a lot of piissed off fans, and lose some money, but they'll stave off serious long-term damage to the league.
Actually, according to a Harris Poll from January, the NBA had already been surpassed by motor sports (collective), and was a mere 1% point ahead of the NHL. This all before the lockout. The NBA also has dropped in half since 1998, while the NHL has slowly grown.
Interesting stat list, shows just how popular the NFL is in the USA, with baseball a comfortable second followed by NCAA football.
The owners are giving a bit on free agency issues, also, I think.Alpe d'Huez said:Word is there's a verbal agreement. A little better than the owners' last offer, but similar to it, the only difference being percentage points higher than the previous offer, more likely about 50-51% for the players (they got 57% last time), but that does translate into millions of dollars over the next decade for the players.
• 66 game season - No problem here.
• Starts on December 25 - Most fans start watching then anyway.
• Playoffs move a week back - This works okay too.
• Only one week of free agency signing - Should be chaotic, but work.
The goal is to create more parity, but I think that's going to take some time to work at all. I also think the league has got to do a better job of promoting itself, and working on it's image. And it may take Stern leaving and being replaced with someone young and assertive (like Goddell in the NFL) to make that happen, and even that will take time.
He should just let the Hornets decide what is best for the Hornets. But at least it is done now.Stern said he never allowed other owners' opinions or considerations of large and small markets to determine where Paul, one of the NBA's biggest stars, would end up. He said his only focus was on getting the best deal for the Hornets.
Don't know all the facts yet (him on the recordings), but... wow. What an extremely conflicted individual.Alpe d'Huez said:Any LA Clippers fans out there?
I find the NBA rather drab, but their bigoted owner has certainly spiced things up.