Newsflash. Brian Cookson, british cycling, to stand against Pat McQuaid (SUI) for uci

[IndianCyclist]

Against McQuaid, Cookson can't win. Cookson represents Elite cycling nations. McQuaid has already projected himself as the Messiah of the downtrodden cycling nations. The agenda for election is doping & governance for the elite cycling nations versus development & infrastructure for the developing cycling nations which are more numerous in number. From Cookson's declarations it is very clear that development is not his priority.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Yes, to be successful they think outside the box and get the best coaching, the best equipment, the best foods and nutritional products and use the best environments for training no matter where in the world they must go to find these things. Fortunately, they have the funds to enable them to operate in this fashion. But this thread is supposed to be about Mr. Brian Cookson and his run for UCI president, not necessarily about British Cycling...although to discuss the successes that British Cycling has had under his leadership, I assume, would be on topic.

Well you brought up Wiggins & Froome - who are Sky riders and both did not come through British Cycling.
Are you crediting Cookson with that or not?

Also, so the thinking outside the box Best of British thinking is to get the "best coaching, best products" - is that why they hired Gert "Blood Transfusions" Leinders?

 

[Bernie's eyesore]

Well you brought up Wiggins & Froome - who are Sky riders and both did not come through British Cycling.
Are you crediting Cookson with that or not?

Also, so the thinking outside the box Best of British thinking is to get the "best coaching, best products" - is that why they hired Gert "Blood Transfusions" Leinders?

I could have sworn Wiggins came up through British cycling, what am I missing?

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I could have sworn Wiggins came up through British cycling, what am I missing?

The word "both".

 

[oldcrank]

I mentioned Wiggins and Froome in a post that was a reply
to Hitch, I did not mention them in the post that referred
to the successes that British Cycling achieved under Mr.
Brian Cookson. The successes that British Cycling has
achieved under the leadership of Mr. Brian Cookson include
(but are not limited to) World, Olympic, and Commonwealth
championships for Sir Christopher Andrew Hoy MBE, Victoria
Louise Pendleton CBE, Nicole Denise Cooke MBE and World
championships for Mark Simon Cavendish MBE as well as
numerous medals from the Paralympics. British cyclists have
won Junior, U-23, Elite and Paralympic medals and championships
on both road, track while Mr. Brian Cookson has been the
President of British Cycling. British cyclists have also won
World Championships in BMX and DH.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I mentioned Wiggins and Froome in a post that was a reply
to Hitch, I did not mention them in the post that referred
to the successes that British Cycling achieved under Mr.
Brian Cookson. The successes that British Cycling has
achieved under the leadership of Mr. Brian Cookson include
(but are not limited to) World, Olympic, and Commonwealth
championships for Sir Christopher Andrew Hoy MBE, Victoria
Louise Pendleton CBE, Nicole Denise Cooke MBE and World
championships for Mark Simon Cavendish MBE as well as
numerous medals from the Paralympics. British cyclists have
won Junior, U-23, Elite and Paralympic medals and championships
on both road, track while Mr. Brian Cookson has been the
President of British Cycling. British cyclists have also won
World Championships in BMX and DH.

So, you want to separate Mr Brian Cookson OBE
from Team Sky run by Sir David "Del Boy" Brailsford
and the riders Sir Bradley "Marijuana" Wiggins
and (not yet recognised by the Queen) Christopher "Bilharzia" Froome.

Ya, smart move.

 

[bianchigirl]

Brian Cookson has a background in British local government - having been there I'm well aware of the way that things generally happen despite, not because of, the chief executive.

Cookson is fond of claiming credit for BC achievements but, when pressed on how he's actually contributed, waffles on in management speak. His actual achievement is being the figurehead - the hard work has been done by others

 

[the sceptic]

Hey you forgot about the success of Saint David Millar OBE, or does Cookson not get credit for that one.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Brian Cookson has a background in British local government - having been there I'm well aware of the way that things generally happen despite, not because of, the chief executive.

Cookson is fond of claiming credit for BC achievements but, when pressed on how he's actually contributed, waffles on in management speak. His actual achievement is being the figurehead - the hard work has been done by others

Isn't that often the way?
It doesn't matter if he is hands-on (which he could never be) or is asleep in his office, they are getting things done and there has been no movement to shift him.

 

[oldcrank]

Hey you forgot about the success of Saint David Millar OBE, or does Cookson not get credit for that one.

As president of British Cycling, Mr. Cookson had no jurisdiction over
the French Cofidis professional cycling team, their team director
Monsieur Alain Bondue or their docteur, Jean-Jacques Menuet.

 

[neineinei]

As president of British Cycling, Mr. Cookson had no jurisdiction over
the French Cofidis professional cycling team, their team director
Monsieur Alain Bondue or their docteur, Jean-Jacques Menuet.

Did he have jurisdiction over Geert Leinders?

 

[DirtyWorks]

Brian Cookson has a background in British local government - having been there I'm well aware of the way that things generally happen despite, not because of, the chief executive.

Cookson is fond of claiming credit for BC achievements but, when pressed on how he's actually contributed, waffles on in management speak. His actual achievement is being the figurehead - the hard work has been done by others

Like Thom Wiesel, he's made sure there is nothing in the way for Team Sky domination: http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/438764/who-owns-team-sky.html

Team Sky is owned by a company called Tour Racing Limited, which holds the team's UCI ProTour licence. TRL is a holding company owned by BSkyB and on the board of TRL are two senior Sky executives and Ian Drake and Brian Cookson, the chief executive and president of British Cycling.

The guy responsible for enforcing anti-doping sits on the team's board of directors and on the UCI's management committee. Never tested positive never worked so well!

Sky is set up identically to the USPS system where the federation that is supposed to be enforcing the rules guarantees its success. Thom has Mike Plant on the UCI Management committee.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Like Thom Wiesel, he's made sure there is nothing in the way for Team Sky domination: http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/438764/who-owns-team-sky.html

Team Sky is owned by a company called Tour Racing Limited, which holds the team's UCI ProTour licence. TRL is a holding company owned by BSkyB and on the board of TRL are two senior Sky executives and Ian Drake and Brian Cookson, the chief executive and president of British Cycling.

The guy responsible for enforcing anti-doping sits on the team's board of directors and on the UCI's management committee. Never tested positive never worked so well!

Sky is set up identically to the USPS system where the federation that is supposed to be enforcing the rules guarantees its success. Thom has Mike Plant on the UCI Management committee.

UKAD do the testing in the UK, nothing to do with British Cycling.

And the inference to Weisel is false - TW bankrolled the USAC, and put in a lot of his own people, before USADA were on the scene.

And as President of BC (and Drake as CEO) are on the Board of of Tour Racing, because they are President & CEO of British Cycling.
If Cookson is successful and there is a new President in BC, guess who is going to end up on the TRL board.

 

[Netserk]

Perhaps I have misunderstood it, but I thought that UKAD can't open cases without BC or UCI?

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Perhaps I have misunderstood it, but I thought that UKAD can't open cases without BC or UCI?

Why can't they?

 

[del1962]

Perhaps I have misunderstood it, but I thought that UKAD can't open cases without BC or UCI?

If they follow the same model as USADA they can.

 

[Netserk]

Yeah I guess I misunderstood things. Please forget my post

 

[oldcrank]

Did he have jurisdiction over Geert Leinders?

Dr. Geert Leinders alleged misconduct took place while he was
employed by a Dutch team, and licensed in Belgium I believe,
so as President of British Cycling Mr. Michael Brian Cookson OBE
would have had no jurisdiction over Dr. Geert Leinders.

The Dutch federation, the Belgian federation or the UCI had
never sanctioned Dr. Leinders even though his offenses are said
to have occurred as long as 10 years ago.

 

[sniper]

Like Thom Wiesel, he's made sure there is nothing in the way for Team Sky domination: http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/438764/who-owns-team-sky.html

Team Sky is owned by a company called Tour Racing Limited, which holds the team's UCI ProTour licence. TRL is a holding company owned by BSkyB and on the board of TRL are two senior Sky executives and Ian Drake and Brian Cookson, the chief executive and president of British Cycling.

The guy responsible for enforcing anti-doping sits on the team's board of directors and on the UCI's management committee. Never tested positive never worked so well!

Sky is set up identically to the USPS system where the federation that is supposed to be enforcing the rules guarantees its success. Thom has Mike Plant on the UCI Management committee.

here's cookson in 2007 predicting a british tour winner in the next ten years:
http://www.tdfblog.com/2007/07/british-cycling.html
brailsford was looking for a sponsor that year.

as it stands, cookson looks pretty compromised as a uci president.
but let's see if he gets independent testing on the way.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Dr. Geert Leinders alleged misconduct took place while he was
employed by a German team, and licensed in Belgium I believe,
so as President of British Cycling Mr. Michael Brian Cookson OBE
would have had no jurisdiction over Dr. Geert Leinders.

The German federation, the Belgian federation or the UCI had
never sanctioned Dr. Leinders even though his offenses are said
to have occurred as long as 10 years ago.

Seems you are really up to date oldcrank. Blame it on the Germans, is that an English dogma?

It was in Holland, dear oldcrank, please get your info or just, well, to be absolutely frank, stop this BS of yours.

Cookson is just another a-hole, everyone knows. It is just a case of him being a lesser a-hole to Pat McQuiad. Well, that would be a choice between Medvedev and Putin.

What a democracy in the UCI hey.

Gotta love the Anglo Saxon influences in cycling. Not that it was better when dear old marketing boy Hein was in charge though. We are so proud of Hein.

 

[del1962]

here's cookson in 2007 predicting a british tour winner in the next ten years:
http://www.tdfblog.com/2007/07/british-cycling.html
brailsford was looking for a sponsor that year.

as it stands, cookson looks pretty compromised as a uci president.
but let's see if he gets independent testing on the way.

If you read what he said, he was predicting there could be, and there would be contenders, not that there would definately be.

Anyway he was right, because British Cycling was developing, I am not sure how it comprimises him though.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

here's cookson in 2007 predicting a british tour winner in the next ten years:
http://www.tdfblog.com/2007/07/british-cycling.html
brailsford was looking for a sponsor that year.

as it stands, cookson looks pretty compromised as a uci president.
but let's see if he gets independent testing on the way.

The head of British Cycling bigging up British Cycling by suggesting that instead of producing a Tour winner within 20 years it will be within 10 - thats shocking.

Also - can you show how he is compromised, thanks.

Seems you are really up to date oldcrank. Blame it on the Germans, is that an English dogma?

It was in Holland, dear oldcrank, please get your info or just, well, to be absolutely frank, stop this BS of yours.

Cookson is just another a-hole, everyone knows. It is just a case of him being a lesser a-hole to Pat McQuiad. Well, that would be a choice between Medvedev and Putin.

What a democracy in the UCI hey.

Gotta love the Anglo Saxon influences in cycling. Not that it was better when dear old marketing boy Hein was in charge though. We are so proud of Hein.

How or why, in your opinion is Cookson an a-hole?
And even if he is an a-hole, what has that got to do with being a President?

 

[sniper]

Also - can you show how he is compromised, thanks.

i say he looks compromised. i don't know if he is.

I am also a member of the Operating Board of Team Sky. This is a liaison body between British Cycling and the owners of Team Sky, Tour Racing Limited, the shareholders of which are BSkyB and other companies from within the same group I attend the Operating Board to represent the interests of British Cycling, alongside our Chief Executive, with one of the key objectives having always been that Team Sky provides a clean doping-free environment for as many British riders as possible.

 

[sniper]

...
How or why, in your opinion is Cookson an a-hole?

this is facepalm stuff, sorry to say, but apparently the doc is on a role again.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

i say he looks compromised. i don't know if he is.

May apologies - how does he "look" compromised then.
Is it his glasses or..what exactly?