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[JMBeaushrimp]

Could end up being a marketing windfall...

Even MORE people paying attention the Tour, looking at the beautiful scenery, watching for hours to get a 15min update on the race's biggest winner (sic)...

Get a Frenchman in yellow, and fire up the sh*t-show.

 

[MarkvW]

Yeah. The Tour will be a lot of fun . . . Watching El Dopador dominate . . .

May miss it this year.

 

[D-Queued]

Could end up being a marketing windfall...

Even MORE people paying attention the Tour, looking at the beautiful scenery, watching for hours to get a 15min update on the race's biggest winner (sic)...

Get a Frenchman in yellow, and fire up the sh*t-show.

Exactly.

A bit of press and controversy before the big event could make it even more interesting.

Given that the likely scenario is a boring win by a known doper, some prospect of fairness and justice would be stimulating.

Dave.

 

[webvan]

http://www.facts4lance.net has to be Floyd ;-)

Not sure about http://www.facts4lance.org/ - just noticed it has shifted from the "boys having fun" redirect to "cache-cache" !

Whoever did it was clever enough to hide their tracks

http://whois.domaintools.com/facts4lance.org
http://whois.domaintools.com/facts4lance.net

 

[Topangarider]

From the Livestrong annual report

Legal and professional 2005 $3,511,000
Legal and professional 2009 $9,418,840

That is a large increase in legal awareness

not sure any conclusion can be drawn from just this. And why only 2005 and 2009? Where are the other years?

 

[mewmewmew13]

not sure any conclusion can be drawn from just this. And why only 2005 and 2009? Where are the other years?

This seems a good comparitive of the year he retired, fairly trouble-free, as opposed to 2009 comeback 2.0 where his act is faltering? Drastic increase....possibly exponential by now..?

 

[Microchip]

Keker, Peters, Fabiani, Herman, Luskin & Daily. That is a lot of money ($400,000 per month) for an investigation that is going nowhere.

Some of these guy's job is to impede. Lobby the justice department to drop the case etc. So far they have had little luck. Once the charges are filed they will spend considerable effort trying to take apart the case.

In the end he will spend $10-15 million on the case. Will have to pay SCA $15 million. Times of london, $1 million. The qui Tam case? Maybe another $10 million.

The smartest thing to do is to start working on a plea deal. It will save him Millions

It's a relief to hear this, compared to your much earlier comment that this will never go to trial.

The 'Qui Tam' case? Never heard of it, until now.

 

[webvan]

So that's $41 million? Not too bad with a wealth estimated at $124 million...

 

[Microchip]

if i were the feds and wanted maximum effect/embarrassment from my armstrong indictments i'd drop them during a major cycling event and it would also be great if it were a slow period for other pro sports in the US. if only there was a major event on the cycling calendar with these characteristics happening sometime soon? i'm stumped, does anyone else know of a major event that would work?

The television ratings during "that event", if we could only rack our brains to think of one, would soar through the roof!!

 

[patricknd]

Could end up being a marketing windfall...

Even MORE people paying attention the Tour, looking at the beautiful scenery, watching for hours to get a 15min update on the race's biggest winner (sic)...

Get a Frenchman in yellow, and fire up the sh*t-show.

Good one, a frenchman in yellow

 

[Race Radio]

I do not see any charges prior to or during the Tour. Wonderboy's recent bullying likely extending the investigation.

The more evidence, the longer the investigation, the more charges.

 

[Microchip]

I know what the 'Qui Tam' case is, now. A whistleblower case.

I've read about the SCA case, but when I first saw mention of it I thought, "What!? Lance is messing with the Chinese now?!"

 

[mewmewmew13]

I do not see any charges prior to or during the Tour. Wonderboy's recent bullying likely extending the investigation.

The more evidence, the longer the investigation, the more charges.

aargh.
might there be some positive or beneficial outcome for Lance and his atty's by muddling and extending?? although, with the witness tampering he is certainly playing with fire on that one....

 

[thehog]

So that's $41 million? Not too bad with a wealth estimated at $124 million...

He doesn't have 124m in cash. He'll have to start selling stuff to come up with the cash flow. That will hit investments hard. It cascades. Loans get called in, rates rise, you have to start moving stuff around to cover the immediate debt which hurts furture profit. The firesale on the Texas property is an example of this. There's not a lot of income coming in anymore.

 

[Damiano Machiavelli]

How is the $10 million figure for the qui tam case arrived at? The postal service spent north of $30 million. The law allows for treble damages plus payment of the plaintiff's expenses and attorney's fees. Floyd's legal costs alone could be a significant fraction of $10 million.

 

[Race Radio]

How is the $10 million figure for the qui tam case arrived at? The postal service spent north of $30 million. The law allows for treble damages plus payment of the plaintiff's expenses and attorney's fees. Floyd's legal costs alone could be a significant fraction of $10 million.

I think his exposure is less. Others owned more of the team

 

[leftover pie]

So that's $41 million? Not too bad with a wealth estimated at $124 million...

spend a penny to make a pound ..

 

[Trailzz]

I don't see any reasonable scenario where LA is ever hurting for cash.

 

[Anonymous]

I don't see any reasonable scenario where LA is ever hurting for cash.

Hmmm. You might not see too good.

Sit tight. You might be surprised.

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

Good one, a frenchman in yellow

Never discount Tommy V!

 

[dbrower]

I do not see any charges prior to or during the Tour. Wonderboy's recent bullying likely extending the investigation.

The more evidence, the longer the investigation, the more charges.

I'm inclined to agree. I don't think the powers in France will want to be tossing riders out of the race whose names end up mentioned in the indictment. They'll be happy enough to get Lance later, and run the event itself without that cloud bursting.

I think all Hincapie has been hoping for is the chance to run his record-tying Tour, then retire and deal with everything afterward.

-dB

 

[frenchfry]

Understanding the sentiments of the French, they may not mind an LA *ss-handing, even during the Tour.

Might even create a new national holiday...

My impression is that Lancey poo is now a thing of the past for the average Frenchie (myself not included). We are wonderfully spared the advertising by his sponsors and there is little or no coverage of the recent revelations. You could say that awareness is at an all time low.

 

[frenchfry]

Could end up being a marketing windfall...

Even MORE people paying attention the Tour, looking at the beautiful scenery, watching for hours to get a 15min update on the race's biggest winner (sic)...

Get a Frenchman in yellow, and fire up the sh*t-show.

On a ride yesterday I noticed that some of the sunflowers are now flowering. Hopefully not too early for maximum effect.

 

[ChrisE]

My impression is that Lancey poo is now a thing of the past for the average Frenchie (myself not included). We are wonderfully spared the advertising by his sponsors and there is little or no coverage of the recent revelations. You could say that awareness is at an all time low.

Are you saying you are not an average Frenchie, or your are a Frenchie that is not average because you still talk about LA?

Frenchie? Have you totally gone over the edge?

 

[Poursuivant]

I think the fact that vaughters hasnt testified yet, indicated the GJ still has a while to run.