Official Lance Armstrong Thread **READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING**

[Digger]

I get the point, as far as peoples feelings about Lance, negative or positive.
Sometimes the peoples' analogies on this forum really make me sick!
Being civil and respectful is an admirable quality.
I talk to my wife, Lances' arrogance was/is? legendary. I think that is a fact, not an opinion. That however has nothing to do with cancer, or cycling, I myself would like to separate Lances' arrogance from cycling.
It is time to move on, he is retired.

You missed my point - your previous post was as though you were speaking for many people affected by cancer. There are many affected by cancer who take the opposite viewpoint to yourself.

 

[flicker]

Agree 100% I think that saying Lance inflated his bout with the disease is going too far IMO.

The thing is this Astana 1. For me today is a very joyous day, the sun is out and what happened yesterday was symbolically a new beginning for the world, as a dark force was rubbed out.

Once again putting on my rainbow glasses, I chose to believe that cycling is bigger than Lance and his controversies.

 

[flicker]

You missed my point - your previous post was as though you were speaking for many people affected by cancer. There are many affected by cancer who take the opposite viewpoint to yourself.

I don't speak for the cancer sufferers, I speak for respecting the cancer sufferers.
Please don't confuse me for someone else......lAnCezzzzzzzzzzz!

 

[Digger]

Flicker the reality is that three guys from his own junior team who were doped, got seriously ill.
Next, even Ferrari was worried that he may have helped bring hte cancer on. What annoys me is that he has used the fact that he got cancer to say he would never put PEDs in his body - so he is using cancer as a shield, as he is with Livestrong - saying he has done too much good for too many people, so should not be investigated. Do you not think Kimmage has had people very close to him die of cancer?

 

[Digger]

I don't speak for the cancer sufferers, I speak for respecting the cancer sufferers.
Please don't confuse me for someone else......lAnCezzzzzzzzzzz!

Do you not think cancer sufferers deserve to know whether a guy they look to for hope is a fraud, that his foundation was initially set up as income because they thought he would never cycle again?

 

[Benotti69]

Cancer is not a joke......


....and when someone uses it to enrich themselves on the back of it they deserve everything they get for all the wrong they have done, be it for cheating in a sport, tax fraud, dope pushing, etc...

 

[flicker]

Flicker the reality is that three guys from his own junior team who were doped, got seriously ill.
Next, even Ferrari was worried that he may have helped bring hte cancer on. What annoys me is that he has used the fact that he got cancer to say he would never put PEDs in his body - so he is using cancer as a shield, as he is with Livestrong - saying he has done too much good for too many people, so should not be investigated. Do you not think Kimmage has had people very close to him die of cancer?

I look at this issue in another way. #1 with all the controversy around Armstrong, the attention about Lances'(doping)??? Carmicheal etc. should put heat on systematic doping program in sports.
Unfortunatly the doping of jr. cyclists is very common. Not just with the 3 jrs. you mentioned, it is worldwide in cycling.
Probably common in other sports, I would imagine big in US High School sports.

 

[Digger]

I look at this issue in another way. #1 with all the controversy around Armstrong, the attention about Lances'(doping)??? Carmicheal etc. should put heat on systematic doping program in sports.
Unfortunatly the doping of jr. cyclists is very common. Not just with the 3 jrs. you mentioned, it is worldwide in cycling.
Probably common in other sports, I would imagine big in US High School sports.

You're impossible to engage with because you just go from idea to idea like a butterfly on a flower.

 

[Berzin]

Armstrong was supposedly researching the experimental drug HemAssist while he was doing chemo.

If this is true he gets no sympathy, because engaging in something of that magnitude while sick is lower than I've known anyone to stoop.

 

[frenchfry]

I get the point, as far as peoples feelings about Lance, negative or positive.
Sometimes the peoples' analogies on this forum really make me sick!
Being civil and respectful is an admirable quality.
I talk to my wife, Lances' arrogance was/is? legendary. I think that is a fact, not an opinion. That however has nothing to do with cancer, or cycling, I myself would like to separate Lances' arrogance from cycling.
It is time to move on, he is retired.

Since you like analogies, should a bank robber only be charged if he is caught before leaving the bank?

After all, it was only a few months ago that Lancey-poo was spreading awareness in the land down under. Now if he had of spared us the comeback we might not be here discussing this right now - there appears to be a price to pay for putting all those additional millions in the bank. A Michelob Ultra anyone?

 

[flicker]

Since you like analogies, should a bank robber only be charged if he is caught before leaving the bank?

After all, it was only a few months ago that Lancey-poo was spreading awareness in the land down under. Now if he had of spared us the comeback we might not be here discussing this right now - there appears to be a price to pay for putting all those additional millions in the bank. A Michelob Ultra anyone?

My guess is, if we really want to clean up sports will an investigation into Armstrong be worth the time, energy, and financial resources? In the forum the vendetta against Armstrong is strong, but in the real world of sports, will the results of actions against Armstrong do good?

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Hey any of you guys planning on joining the Austin Livestrong Challenge?

http://www.livestrong.org/Take-Acti...-Challenge-Series/LIVESTRONG-Challenge-Austin

 

[Digger]

My guess is, if we really want to clean up sports will an investigation into Armstrong be worth the time, energy, and financial resources? In the forum the vendetta against Armstrong is strong, but in the real world of sports, will the results of actions against Armstrong do good?

Tax evasion, fraud, trafficking of PEDs - these are ok so.

 

[flicker]

Tax evasion, fraud, trafficking of PEDs - these are ok so.

I understand the angst, but have you caught him with his hand in the cookie jar?

 

[Digger]

I understand the angst, but have you caught him with his hand in the cookie jar?

Okay since you're being so obtuse, how do you think he was paying Ferrari? Friendship tokens perhaps?

 

[flicker]

Okay since you're being so obtuse, how do you think he was paying Ferrari? Friendship tokens perhaps?

Come on, you know Dr. Ferrari was only a family friend and personal trainer to Mr. Armstrong.

 

[Digger]

Come on, you know Dr. Ferrari was only a family friend and personal trainer to Mr. Armstrong.

Who had been wired fifteen million.

 

[flicker]

Who had been wired fifteen million.

Lira, What does that equal about 15 bucks?

 

[MacRoadie]

Lira, What does that equal about 15 bucks?

Funny, Armstrong was meeting with Ferrari as late as 2010, but the lira became obsolete and banknotes ceased to be legal tender in February, 2002.

If we're talking euros, the official currency in Italy in 2010, then €15 million amounts to about $21 million, US...

 

[flicker]

Funny, Armstrong was meeting with Ferrari as late as 2010, but the lira became obsolete and banknotes ceased to be legal tender in February, 2002.

If we're talking euros, the official currency in Italy in 2010, then €15 million amounts to about $21 million, US...

Oh thanks for the clarification, Lance gave Ferrari 15 million euro. I will buy that.

 

[Bag_O_Wallet]

oh thanks for the clarification, lance gave ferrari 15 million euro. I will buy that.

22,255,490 usd. Nevermind, thought you said what would that buy.

 

[Benotti69]

Tax evasion, fraud, trafficking of PEDs - these are ok so.

he's done so much good for so many....

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

Yay! The circus is back in town!

Glad to see Flickie and Polish haven't 'sold-out' during the vacation. Reminds me of Apocalypse Now, and Kilgore's quote of, "...any man brave enough to fight with his guts hanging out can drink from my canteen anytime.".

I may find them goofily ignorant, but ya gotta admire that level of tenacity...

 

[Hugh Januss]

Yay! The circus is back in town!

Glad to see Flickie and Polish haven't 'sold-out' during the vacation. Reminds me of Apocalypse Now, and Kilgore's quote of, "...any man brave enough to fight with his guts hanging out can drink from my canteen anytime.".

I may find them goofily ignorant, but ya gotta admire that level of tenacity...

Yes , and they seem to have used the time off to polish up their "Full ***".

 

[flicker]

22,255,490 usd. Nevermind, thought you said what would that buy.

So, Lance wired Ferrari all that money. You would think that Dr. Ferrari was trying to buy a new Gulfstream, and a villa on Lake Como.