Official Lance Armstrong Thread **READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING**

[Dr. Maserati]

this makes sense a guy with no traffics tickets, that runs a non profit, recent retired from his full time job, cancer survivor, businessman,father,husband is going to get pinched because a would be race car racer with an ever improving story said so? You probably think it was a good idea for Ms.Diallo to get legal advise from Flandis in the Dominique Strass
Khan case. You are going to be very disappointed in the outcome for sure.

Even if Lance is found guilty of something the complexity of a world wide web like US Postal will make it pretty hard for anybody to believe that Armstrong is the mastermind of anything. Each passing week has to make you more concerned that Lance may have slipped through the final crack, I know its of concern but you better get a what if plan in place when his next appearance on 60 minutes is for his Ironman finish .

LA may be a scum, womanizer,poor sport, ego maniac but no jury will believe that he could have ever devised a criminal enterprise that would stand this duration. Impossible, not that he didn't dope just that he is smart enough to put in place the people and systems worldwide to not get caught.
you may want to pitch your idea to a screen writer so that Lance can be the villain in an upcoming scifi film.

You have given him super powers over the whole world. I can't wait for them to go over his training logs. On the bike 4-7 hours, massage,food, team meetings, bus, plane and train travels,races, personal appearances, invented a charity worth millions, TV commercials,photo sessions, interviews and in his off time he developed something nobody
else could ,a fool proof plan. He is sounding more like Capt America or Superman

This guy is having kids and dating supermodels and actresses w 1 nad, you better process just how good he is. He reinvented apple juice!! He bought Sachs, spray painted the components and people are waiting in line to buy the stuff. he sells cars with no gas tank!! He sells beer with no taste or calories for money..I don't think you realize who you are dealing with,

To the blue - you see doesn't the lying, womanizing, poor sport, ego maniac directly contradict what was written about him in his own book?

Wasn't he also the mastermind behind his Tour success, he was training on Christmas day, weighing his food, checking out the route all these type of amazing things that no-one ever thought of and all while building a charity for cancer and being a role model.

If you are looking for a suitable punishment for Armstrong it will be him having to accept that he will be viewed as nothing more than another drug taking liar who had to bully and buy his way to success.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Even if Lance is found guilty of something the complexity of a world wide web like US Postal will make it pretty hard for anybody to believe that Armstrong is the mastermind of anything.

Tailwind? Capital Sports and Entertainment? Plenty of the officers in both corporations know how to make the appearance of something from nothing. I peg Wonderboy as "the talent."

As I've said before, there's a range of reasonable possibilities. A Marion Jones confession is unlikely. A plea deal to keep the investigation out of the public is likely. Hopefully he's more stubborn than that, like Martha Stewart. C'mon stubborn.

 

[Velodude]

this makes sense a guy with no traffics tickets, that runs a non profit, recent retired from his full time job, cancer survivor, businessman,father,husband is going to get pinched because a would be race car racer with an ever improving story said so? You probably think it was a good idea for Ms.Diallo to get legal advise from Flandis in the Dominique Strass
Khan case. You are going to be very disappointed in the outcome for sure.

Even if Lance is found guilty of something the complexity of a world wide web like US Postal will make it pretty hard for anybody to believe that Armstrong is the mastermind of anything. Each passing week has to make you more concerned that Lance may have slipped through the final crack, I know its of concern but you better get a what if plan in place when his next appearance on 60 minutes is for his Ironman finish .

LA may be a scum, womanizer,poor sport, ego maniac but no jury will believe that he could have ever devised a criminal enterprise that would stand this duration. Impossible, not that he didn't dope just that he is smart enough to put in place the people and systems worldwide to not get caught.
you may want to pitch your idea to a screen writer so that Lance can be the villain in an upcoming scifi film.

You have given him super powers over the whole world. I can't wait for them to go over his training logs. On the bike 4-7 hours, massage,food, team meetings, bus, plane and train travels,races, personal appearances, invented a charity worth millions, TV commercials,photo sessions, interviews and in his off time he developed something nobody
else could ,a fool proof plan. He is sounding more like Capt America or Superman

This guy is having kids and dating supermodels and actresses w 1 nad, you better process just how good he is. He reinvented apple juice!! He bought Sachs, spray painted the components and people are waiting in line to buy the stuff. he sells cars with no gas tank!! He sells beer with no taste or calories for money..I don't think you realize who you are dealing with,

If LA is indicted and recklessly, injudiciously and unreasoningly allows it to go to trial without exploring a plea deal then he purely has to deal with the law.

If LA is a super citizen, as you argue to propose he deserves a get out of jail card, then those qualities would be only contained in a mitigation submission by his counsel for a reduced sentence, if found guilty.

"No man is above the law and no man is below it: nor do we ask any man's permission when we ask him to obey it." (Theodore Roosevelt)

"The law is reason, free from passion." (Aristotle)

 

[Poursuivant]

Tailwind? Capital Sports and Entertainment? Plenty of the officers in both corporations know how to make the appearance of something from nothing. I peg Wonderboy as "the talent."

As I've said before, there's a range of reasonable possibilities. A Marion Jones confession is unlikely. A plea deal to keep the investigation out of the public is likely. Hopefully he's more stubborn than that, like Martha Stewart. C'mon stubborn.

What would a plea deal lead to? No publicity of what has happened?

 

[Polish]

Do you think a stint in prison will impact his earning potential? How might a RICO conviction impact his finances?

Martha Stewart has done alright since prison.
Nelson Mandela too.

I think Lance would be like a Martha Mandela hybrid.

 

[Velodude]

Martha Stewart has done alright since prison.
Nelson Mandela too.

I think Lance would be like a Martha Mandela hybrid.

So is the evolving Polish now expecting its idol to be sentenced now and not acquitted?

 

[Polish]

So is the evolving Polish now expecting its idol to be sentenced now and not acquitted?

Heck no.
If Lance goes to trial he will be found innocent.
No doubt.
Or maybe a hung jury worst case.

I was just responding to Cimacoppi49's "make believe" scenario.
Throwing some cold water on the situation before he starts talking about Lance's "prison dates" like he has in the past.
Its creepy kinda.

 

[Cimacoppi49]

Martha Stewart has done alright since prison.
Nelson Mandela too.

I think Lance would be like a Martha Mandela hybrid.

That all depends on the charge he's convicted of. Martha was not in prison very long for one instance of insider trading. Mandella was in prison for something like 28 years for political, not criminal, reasons. Still, for 28 years he didn't earn much income, did he?

Are you expecting Lance to do 20+ years in prison? Remember, it's 20 years for each RICO count conviction. How long is Bernie Madoff in prison for?? And people were shocked by the judge's sense of outrage over what he did. I think Lance may find himself stylin with Bernie more so than with Martha.

 

[Cimacoppi49]

Heck no.
If Lance goes to trial he will be found innocent.
No doubt.
Or maybe a hung jury worst case.

I was just responding to Cimacoppi49's "make believe" scenario.
Throwing some cold water on the situation before he starts talking about Lance's "prison dates" like he has in the past.
Its creepy kinda.

ROTFL!! If Lance and Co. plus friends are hoping for a hung jury, his attorneys will advise him of the retrial conviction rates in Federal Prosecutions.

 

[Cloxxki]

If someone as likeable as Martha goes to jail for a naughty business transaction, then what kind of proportionately fierce sentence would suit Lance?
- Rather than likeable, a world class bully and egotripper
- empire based on lies, disadvantaging the opposition, federal fraud, medical enhancements, lieing under oath, lots of I'll Sue You's, corruption, witness intimidation, possibly obtaining HemAssist from incomplete medical trials, using EPO produced for cancer patients, using it for monetary gain after it had helped him survive, the list goes on and on.

Why would Martha not get a free pass, and Lance would? That cancer shield can't be all that thick anymore.

 

[Polish]

If someone as likeable as Martha goes to jail for a naughty business transaction, then what kind of proportionately fierce sentence would suit Lance?
.

Sweet Martha. Likable Martha.
lol lol.

Dude, Lance has NOTHING on Martha.

She would have chased Simeoni down and crocheted his ****-cheeks together

 

[fatandfast]

If LA is indicted and recklessly, injudiciously and unreasoningly allows it to go to trial without exploring a plea deal then he purely has to deal with the law.

If LA is a super citizen, as you argue to propose he deserves a get out of jail card, then those qualities would be only contained in a mitigation submission by his counsel for a reduced sentence, if found guilty.

I said he was a super citizen in jest. He is guy that got cancer and was somebody to write about..and write some more. And make feel good news stories about. Now that some level of betrayal looks obvious the level of reaction is also as charged.
With the new style of law in our country and around the world it's often better not to be brought to trial. Often when one is tried by a biased court the kangaroo jumps even faster toward a conclusion, the long method no matter what.
Look all over the world, the US style ideals don't work with justice. Lance is to be tried in Italian, French, Belgian courts? no. absolute disinterest. Nobody has the will or the money for any of this.

This is Lance, it's all he is, he didn't stop to go back to school. he didn't pursue some thinking man's anything. He kept riding his bike and people kept piling on the admiration.
Like rockstars and other athletes who peak at 22, his mental development was not tested, he was told, then and now that he was of the highest order.
Like a middle eastern leader he must see it through. As Syria would look to Egypt,heres how you are treated if you roll over easy. Might as well go to the death. If not look to his peers. what did they get for owning up? There are a few, but for the most part saying yes I doped is worthless. In the case of bike racing super worthless. With time limitations no award will be removed, he has nothing to gain and everything to lose.

Millar already took the spot of the loved doper.

Jan, Lance and Ricco better stick to their story no matter what the outcome. Vino worked hard to sit on Millar's doper throne but his leg broke off before he got there..a lesson for Lance and the rest.

Long live doper Lance with all his cash and trophies, and his ladies, and cars and houses and free bikes, and food from Austin cafes, and Aspen cafes and wine bars, and free rooms at French hotels...and Belgian hotels..and free rooms at Tucson hotels and free Nissan cars with trunks full of flavorless beers, and racks full of ugly free bikes that mis-shift. Let's just all agree that Lance doesn't deserve anything, and then let him enjoy all his undeserved swag.

bet ya if you asked Ullrich or Millar if they could trade places with Pharmstrong, they wouldn't blink before saying yes

15 years of Stone.hop heads rejoice

 

[ChrisE]

Heck no.
If Lance goes to trial he will be found innocent.
No doubt.
Or maybe a hung jury worst case.
.

I totally agree. Can't get any of the haters in here to bet me, though.

 

[VeloCity]

I totally agree. Can't get any of the haters in here to bet me, though.

imo it's not going anywhere near a trial unless Novitzky thinks he has an open and shut case. No way he's risking a repeat of the Bonds trial. Which is to say, again imo, that if it does go to trial, that probably means Novitzky's got a ton of evidence in his back pocket, and Armstrong and/or whoever else is indicted has got big problems.

 

[Berzin]

If Lance goes to trial he will be found innocent.
No doubt.
Or maybe a hung jury worst case.

The only way Armstrong gets a hung jury is if Ron Jeremy was selected as one of the 12 to hear the case.

Good luck with that particular scenario.

 

[veganrob]

I totally agree. Can't get any of the haters in here to bet me, though.

Really, hell I'll bet you.

 

[uspostal]

Sweet Martha. Likable Martha.
lol lol.

Dude, Lance has NOTHING on Martha.

She would have chased Simeoni down and crocheted his ****-cheeks together

One of your best lines ever Polish, maybe Martha had a better way to keep Simeoni from talking out his a$$.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Sweet Martha. Likable Martha.
lol lol.

Dude, Lance has NOTHING on Martha.

She would have chased Simeoni down and crocheted his ****-cheeks together

Polish your sense of humour is duly appreciated.
This 'cracked' me up !

 

[python]

Polish your sense of humour is duly appreciated.
This 'cracked' me up !

___________, i totally agree with you, mew !

polish is vanomless mostly, easy to ignore, and funny when in shape...that's why i never engage him/her nor ignore...

 

[fatandfast]

The only way Armstrong gets a hung jury is if Ron Jeremy was selected as one of the 12 to hear the case.

Good luck with that particular scenario.

does this mean you love the taste,fit and feel of the Hog. Lance and Ron as a team is a dream for Lance, The Hog has seen it all before

 

[patricknd]

ignoring the boring trolls of the mericasouthoilrichuston, i totally agree with you, mew !

polish is vanomless mostly, easy to ignore, and funny when in shape...that's why i never engage him/her nor ignore...way more than some ( did i mention it already ?) mericasouthoilrichuston trolls

Missing us, snakeboy?

Psst.... it's venom, not vanom.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Missing us, snakeboy?

Psst.... it's venom, not vanom.

You are Vanomless Patrick. This HOLE life is PANless.

 

[patricknd]

You are Vanomless Patrick. This HOLE life is PANless.

YOuR WRITE, Glenn!

 

[simo1733]

Has Lance got one yet

Has Lance got one of these jerseys yet.I'm sure we can all agree with the sentiment.

http://www.podiumcycling.com/cycling-jerseys/liveclean-cycling-jersey

 

[Cloxxki]

Has Lance got one of these jerseys yet.I'm sure we can all agree with the sentiment.

http://www.podiumcycling.com/cycling-jerseys/liveclean-cycling-jersey

Is that a fanboy or hater item? Both, that'd be genious.