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Teams & Riders Official Wout Van Aert thread

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What a loser. Tremendously talented, probably the second best road bike racer in the world, given his freaking level in classics, sprints, TT but he cannot expect Vingegaard to work for him even if it is only 100 meters. Vingeaard is the defending champion and he is trying to win the Tour. Wout knew beforehand he is a dom in the Tour for the big goal. If he wants the role of sole leader, he should leave jumbo and go for an other team. Accountabillity is very important too, WVA lacks killer instinct and yesterday (just like other monuments) he wasn't smart enough. Grow up and take your responsability.
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Either his sprint is worse than it used to be, or the sprinting field has just passed him by. Just the fact that he never beats top sprinter for speed reduces his potential for winning stages by a lot.
He isn't any slower than last year, I don't think. Personally I believe Laporte is actually faster, or at least on the same level. I think Van Aert would be much better off not trusting on his sprint so much (not in a stage like today, obviously, but generally). He's great when he takes initiative, he's not great at making the right choices in a nervous final.
 
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To me, the big difference here is that Philipsen is better than anyone Wout faced in the TdF sprints and is now perfectly positioned to finish it off. Due to the perfect leadout, Philipsen doesn't need to come back from the 10th spot anymore to try to win the stage. I don't think it has anything to do with Wout being less good than in the past.
 
I actually think he was good, after yesterday I thought he'd look worse today.
Yes, even without getting boxed there were quicker guys around him (Ewan and Bauhaus) but it's not like he was blown out of the water and his positioning was excellent. If he keeps that up he'll eventually win a stage were the combination is right, there are enough sprint opportunities this year.
 
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Nothing the matter with Wout, I think. His tantrum at the end of stage 2 was at least entertaining. Also, he cares a lot. For stage 3, he had the 2nd best position going into the final 250 meters. If the barrier hadn't been an issue, he still could have finished behind Jasper. The same outcome probably would have occurred for last year's version of WVA. Wout is going to win some more races, this year.
 
Selfish Van Aert needs to understand he works for Vingegaard. He is a donkey

His stage wins are secondary to the goals of Vingegaard
His cycling career would get a boost if he was just a bit more selfish and demand full support and a leadership role in the big stage races where he can score. It may not be compatible with JV's main plan but he is a crucial link in that plan so they would need to listen or lose him. If he doesn't learn from this he remains 'the' superdom for JV. That's how they see him and use him.
 
His cycling career would get a boost if he was just a bit more selfish and demand full support and a leadership role in the big stage races where he can score. It may not be compatible with JV's main plan but he is a crucial link in that plan so they would need to listen or lose him. If he doesn't learn from this he remains 'the' superdom for JV. That's how they see him and use him.

WVA is best used in his current role, as a 1 day leader and as a donkey in stage races. Until he can consistently get over the high mountains, he is not of much use in another role, when his team is trying to win the tour
 
Rick, I have absolutely no clue how you reach that conclusion. He looked pretty good to me, but its impossible to actually say anything more than than after he got a bit closed.
The only full bunch sprints he's won since the start of 2022 are in the Dauphine against guy like Ethan Hayter. Especially in the 2022 Tour he was in great position for a heap of sprints and he got beaten for speed every time.

But the one that really sticks out is that Paris Nice sprint against Jakobsen after echelons.
 
I think it's fair to say he doesn't have the top speed of a fresh Jakobsen or Philipsen. Usually if he wins a sprint it's when the fastest guys have either been dropped or are more fatigued than him.

Everything has to go right for him to win a pure bunch sprint after a flat stage. As far as his actual speed I don't believe much if anything has changed tbh.
 
His positioning for bunch sprints is very good (not just today). He was in perfect position throughout, without elbows or dangerous moves.

Exactly. The way he and Laporte smoothy react and anticipate to moves in the head of the peloton in those last kilometers is almost art. This is where Van Aert saves more energy and "wins" the sprint.

He's not the kind of sprinter with an acceleration in the last 50m like Ewan or Groenewegen.
 
Some of the drama is about lacking peak legs, really. Last year's hulk would have two or three stages at this point.

If these aren't his 'peak legs' I think the rest of the peloton should be frightened tbh. At the first 2 stages he was the only 'sprinter' remaining among gc guys and climbers, while guys like Alaphilippe or MVDP were already dropped. And we all know why he didn't win stage 2 lol, didn't have anything to do with not having the legs.
 
If these aren't his 'peak legs' I think the rest of the peloton should be frightened tbh. At the first 2 stages he was the only 'sprinter' remaining among gc guys and climbers, while guys like Alaphilippe or MVDP were already dropped. And we all know why he didn't win stage 2 lol, didn't have anything to do with not having the legs.
This was partly tongue in cheek, taking a swipe at last year's ridiculousness, but even so I would think he is not at the WC peak yet.