O'Grady non-confession-confession confession

[sublimit]

What appears to be the ruling class on this forum

The ruling class is probably the spammers/misfits on the form and fitness forum.

 

[thehog]

I wonder what you would have to do to get sacked from OGE.

If your name doesn't allow for it to formed into informal with -y at the end then you get sacked.

Stuey - that works.
Whitey - that works.
Gerro - ok it can be either a -y or -o
Stevo - Neil Stephens can stay under the -o rule.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

It might be but still doesn't make up for the riders that fall through the forum's grasp and what they have to endure in terms of reputation to satisfy, from what I can see, is this forum's appetite for blood.

Froome hasn't fallen through our ruthless grasp yet...

I for one cannot wait to feast on the sinew and entrails of Froome (he barely has anything else there) and let the blood and gristle spray from my half open mouth as I mockingly decry those who believed in his ridiculous feats...

 

[oldcrank]

Young Stuey made some bad choices, but they did not
include trying to destroy the reputation of a whole industry
and the livelihood of millions of his countrymen and women
like El Pistolero, who has yet to confess in any manner.

 

[thehog]

Young Stuey made some bad choices, but they did not
include trying to destroy the reputation of a whole industry
and the livelihood of millions of his countrymen and women
like El Pistolero, who has yet to confess in any manner.

Yeah he tried to dope his entire career on not telling anyone about it. Darn French senate report messed that up.

And by the way. He, David Millar and Whitey made sure Cofidis suffered for their behaviour. Both doping and recreational drugs.

Pathetic.

 

[oldcrank]

Young Stuey made a very big mistake, but unlike Alberto Contador
he did not try to blame innocent citizens of his own country and
put at risk the livelihood of thousands of farmers, ranchers, meat
processors, food inspectors, butchers, truckers and shop owners.
Alberto Contador's baseless accusations could have brought down
an entire industry and cost his country and countrymen and women
billions of Euros. Fortunately, the world saw through his lies and
saw Contador for what he was:a spineless coward, a cheater and a liar
who was unable to take responsibility for his actions. On the other
hand, Stuey has taken sole responsibility for his actions and has
not tried to implicate any innocent parties.

 

[Freddythefrog]

Young Stuey made a very big mistake, but unlike Alberto Contador
he did not try to blame innocent citizens of his own country and
put at risk the livelihood of thousands of farmers, ranchers, meat
processors, food inspectors, butchers, truckers and shop owners.
Alberto Contador's baseless accusations could have brought down
an entire industry and cost his country and countrymen and women
billions of Euros. Fortunately, the world saw through his lies and
saw Contador for what he was:a spineless coward, a cheater and a liar
who was unable to take responsibility for his actions. On the other
hand, Stuey has taken sole responsibility for his actions and has
not tried to implicate any innocent parties.

Old Stuey is also hoping that there are still a few fanboys of his out-there who, whilst they might be mad that he told porkies in Feb when asked had he ever doped, and in Jan, when he said how bad he felt because nasty, cheating, Lance robbed him and his clean mates of all those wins they should have got and, weren't drug cheats bad, he hopes that there are still a couple of slow minded fools, who might believe that he only doped for just a tiny, tiny bit of his career around (what was the date of those tests?) July 1999, dooh , wrong samples, July 1998, honest and cross my heart, can I please keep all my other medals, please, aren't I your old, honest to goodness, mate, mate.

 

[Christchurch]

Young Stuey made a very big mistake, but unlike Alberto Contador
he did not try ....


Maaate, support the diggers at all cost huh?

Old Stuey is still telling porkies over what young Stuey got up to. How long before we stop this endless cycle of justifying one doper over another based on personal prejudice? "Bertie" and "Stuey" are dopers and both are lying about it.

Subjectively justifying one lie over another merely encourages more lies. Has the Armstrong saga taught us nothing in that regard?

 

[blackcat]

old stuey never told what old stuey got up to.

old stuey needs to tell.

or...
we believe...
or do we.... he only ever took epo and doped once. makes it interesting those fast rides in victoria where and his other Gan teammate laughed about doping and epo.

 

[Night Rider]

Old Stuey is still telling porkies over what young Stuey got up to. How long before we stop this endless cycle of justifying one doper over another based on personal prejudice? "Bertie" and "Stuey" are dopers and both are lying about it.

Old Stuey maaate is telling lies about what young Stuey mate did, and what middle age Stuey mate did, and what old Stuey mate did.

The endless cycle of prejudice won't stop anytime soon. Not while you have clowns in this country like Tomalaris and various blog writers prepared to throw their morals out the window justifying one dopers actions but not others based on where they reside.

 

[oldcrank]

doped once

Can't blame Stuey for trying, look how many bought
it hook, line and sinker when O'Kimmage used it.

 

[blackcat]

Old Stuey maaate is telling lies about what young Stuey mate did, and what middle age Stuey mate did, and what old Stuey mate did.

The endless cycle of prejudice won't stop anytime soon. Not while you have clowns in this country like Tomalaris and various blog writers prepared to throw their morals out the window justifying one dopers actions but not others based on where they reside.

actually, you got the dynamic wrong.

first everyone, i mean, CAPITALIZED
EVERYONE
builds up doping as cheating and a moral issue.

the media are not just complicit, they are one of those who seek to mine the revenues and use the sport as cash cow. they never told the truth in the first place. Like the Australian Cycling Ligget, Mile Tomalaris told us we should forgive Lance because he has done so much good. Do not worry, that Tomalaris and Ligget have been influential in making Vinokourov and Ricco scapegoats, whilst holding out Millar and Armstrong as pillars of ethics and character.

it is not an either-or.

Stuey is not bad because he doped throughout his entire career. neither is Ricco. neither is Armstrong. My criticism of LA, is his behaviour to damage people off the bike.

We are conflating a soccer moms definition of sport, with pro sport. its not an apt comparison.

 

[Bratam]

Young Stuey made a very big mistake, but unlike Alberto Contador
he did not try to blame innocent citizens of his own country and
put at risk the livelihood of thousands of farmers, ranchers, meat
processors, food inspectors, butchers, truckers and shop owners.
Alberto Contador's baseless accusations could have brought down
an entire industry and cost his country and countrymen and women
billions of Euros. Fortunately, the world saw through his lies and
saw Contador for what he was:a spineless coward, a cheater and a liar
who was unable to take responsibility for his actions. On the other
hand, Stuey has taken sole responsibility for his actions and has
not tried to implicate any innocent parties.

"Young Stuey" is a coward. If he had come out and admitted everything, then he would have earnt some respect back from the public. But coming up with that ridiculous story (ie, only ever doped before 1998 TDF and never again) makes him look like an idiot. He has always vehemently denied doping or having any knowledge of others who have doped. He was at times even outspoken about anti doping too. He milked the system for all it was worth. Squeezed every last cent he could get out of it. Until it was all over and then he tried to milk it some some more with that ridiculous story. The guy is a gutless weasel. Hopefully he changes his bull**** story and comes out with the whole truth. Sooner rather than later will be better for "Old Stuey".

At least someone like Michael Rogers (who was almost certainly doped when he won 3 WTT's) has tried to say as little as possible and keep his mouth shut wherever possible. Particularly since the damning USADA implications.

 

[blackcat]

"Young Stuey" is a coward. If he had come out and admitted everything, then he would have earnt some respect back from the public. But coming up with that ridiculous story (ie, only ever doped before 1998 TDF and never again) makes him look like an idiot. He has always vehemently denied doping or having any knowledge of others who have doped. He was at times outspoken about anti doping too. He milked the system for all it was worth. Squeezed every last cent he could get out of it. Until it was all over and then he tried to milk it some some more with that ridiculous story. The guy is a gutless weasel. Hopefully he changes his bull**** story and comes out with the whole truth. Sooner rather than later will be better for "Young Stuey".

At least someone like Michael Rogers (who was almost certainly doped when he won 3 WTT's) has tried to say as little as possible and keep his mouth shut wherever possible. Particularly since the damning USADA implications.

not a coward at all. he never would have been a pro, gone the AIS, gone to the Olympics in Atlanta, won gold medals at all championships.

Stuey is not a coward. he did what cyclists do. now, like Jan says, if you cannot add 2 and 2 together, i cant help you.

Pro Cycling, is not the sport you have built it up to be. nor the sport we are told by Phil Ligget. doping is a significant barrier to entry. you either buy in, and seek out that career and glory, or go home.

Pro Cycling and Pro Sports, not for soccer moms.

 

[Ferminal]

That's not very fair to the modern crowd. They are right, things have changed, you can have a decade long career without doping.

 

[blackcat]

That's not very fair to the modern crowd. They are right, things have changed, you can have a decade long career without doping.

my @rse you can Fermie. thats bull&hit brah

 

[Galic Ho]

That's not very fair to the modern crowd. They are right, things have changed, you can have a decade long career without doping.

Is that why Wiggins career a year after winning the Tour is looking like it's over?

From what year did we start measuring this decade? Thanks for the laughs Ferminal. Your sense of humour is impeccable.

 

[oldcrank]

.....various blog writers prepared to throw their morals out the window justifying one dopers actions but not others based on where they reside.

Exactly. It makes no sense why an unrepentant druggie cheat
like Bertie has so many fawning fanboys in the twitter-sphere
even though Contador has never taken responsibility for his many
indiscretions that stretch back to when he was a junior. Not
only has he never admitted that he is a drug cheat, the coward
even tried to blame totally innocent and blameless farmers and
ranchers and put their livelihood at risk rather than accept any
responsibility for years and years of cheating and telling lies.
But because El Pistolero is from Spain, and at the moment it is
fashionable only to call out riders from so called "Anglo-Saxon"
teams and countries, a liar, a coward and a cheat like Albert
Contador is given carte blanche to continue his cowardly ways.

Yet O'Grady who never tried to dob in any innocent parties for
his indiscretions, and has even retired from the sport, is vilified
mainly because he had the audacity to be perceived by some
as Anglo-Saxon and not be born in a "traditional" European
cycling nation. Sad really, very sad.

 

[Galic Ho]

If that is the case oldcrank, why is it that the French senate announced before the Tour started that the report on epo samples from the 98 Tour retests would be released on the Queen stage? Why then did they change the release date till AFTER the Tour and oddly enough when Stuart O'Grady had retired?

Stuey was given a massive leg up oldcrank. They knew his name was on the list. Most people knew. It was mentioned on this very forum multiple times in the corresponding thread. Why not go through with it and reveal O'Grady for what he did? Why let him wait and retire? They knew, so why wait?

Let me guess, the French senate felt sorry for Spanish beef farmers? Too much Clenbuterol in their prime steaks?

 

[simo1733]

If your name doesn't allow for it to formed into informal with -y at the end then you get sacked.

Stuey - that works.
Whitey - that works.
Gerro - ok it can be either a -y or -o
Stevo - Neil Stephens can stay under the -o rule.

I am well aware that this rule is strictly enforced throughout Australian society.Some of OGE's international riders may find it more difficult to deal with it than others.I'm thinking of Tufty, Keuky and Tekleheminoty in particular.

 

[Ferminal]

simo you are obviously not a native! They are Sveino, Jensy and Danny.

 

[sittingbison]

Don't forget rule #1 - shorten as much as possible so it's Jeno and Dano

 

[simo1733]

simo you are obviously not a native! They are Sveino, Jensy and Danny.

It appears simple at first but actually it's more sophisticated than a box of Ferrero Rocher.

 

[Polyarmour]

I am well aware that this rule is strictly enforced throughout Australian society.Some of OGE's international riders may find it more difficult to deal with it than others.I'm thinking of Tufty, Keuky and Tekleheminoty in particular.

Tekleheminoty no way!
He would be Tekky or Tekko.

 

[simo1733]

Tekleheminoty no way!
He would be Tekky or Tekko.

Sorry that one was a joke.Tufty should be ok though.