O'Grady non-confession-confession confession

[Galic Ho]

It appears simple at first but actually it's more sophisticated than a box of Ferrero Rocher.

Nah it's pretty simple.

Take Thompson. Becomes Tommo. Or Tomolaris. Becomes Tomo.

Now that is surnames. How about first names?

Stephen becomes Steve which becomes Stevo. Stevy? Doesn't work.

David = Davo
Robert = Robo
Jonathan = Jono
Dean = Deano

The point is it's either a 'y' or an 'o'. It's good to know if it's a 'y' that keeps it's job, I'd be safe. General rule is use first names, but surnames are permissable. Hence why Stuart O'Grady is called 'Stuey.' Note his surname naturally ends with a 'y' but the slang is to turn it into a nickname, hence alteration is a must. Thus go with his first name.

 

[darwin553]

Stuey was given a massive leg up oldcrank. They knew his name was on the list. Most people knew. It was mentioned on this very forum multiple times in the corresponding thread. Why not go through with it and reveal O'Grady for what he did? Why let him wait and retire? They knew, so why wait?

Because the UCI had decided that none of these positive or suspicious results would be 'backdated' to have an impact on the validity of the achievements in the year that the indiscretion occurred.

So why not intervene on behalf of Stuey and stop the release of the French report to give Stuey one last moment in the sun before his impending retirement??

(Not saying that's the right thing to do in either case)

 

[Galic Ho]

Because the UCI had decided that none of these positive or suspicious results would be 'backdated' to have an impact on the validity of the achievements in the year that the indiscretion occurred.

So why not intervene on behalf of Stuey and stop the release of the French report to give Stuey one last moment in the sun before his impending retirement??

(Not saying that's the right thing to do in either case)

Now you understand that the UCI and ASO can manipulate politics. Good work.

Now imagine they did the same for actual winners of the Tour. Like Contador. Like Froome. Imagine the possibilities!

 

[darwin553]

Now imagine they did the same for actual winners of the Tour. Like Contador. Like Froome. Imagine the possibilities!

I'm not prepared to go that far

 

[del1962]

If they can manipulate Tour winners, why no French Winner since the 80s?

 

[sniper]

If they can manipulate Tour winners, why no French Winner since the 80s?

perhaps the on average much tougher anti-doping laws in france have something to do with that.
http://velonews.competitor.com/2008/04/news/road/france-toughens-anti-doping-laws_75622
Also, France (and Belgium, Spain, or Netherlands for that matter) don't need a tour winner for cycling to be popular there.
USA and Britain do, so UCI were happy to give USPS and Sky a hand.
Very lucrative.

And of course, "manipulation" has its limits. UCI can give certain teams/riders preferential treatment, but that's it.

 

[blackcat]

If they can manipulate Tour winners, why no French Winner since the 80s?

because they have not had the right rider with the A type personality and willing to do anything to win and dope hard hardcore.

I rate Sylvain Chavanel above Froome, Wiggins, and on a par with Evans.

Sylvain still dopes, just not hardcore. Same as Moncoutie, dont let anyone tell you otherwise

 

[Ferminal]

No way, he's just not a climber.

 

[blackcat]

he was a better climber than Armstrong was as a neo.

And look at Froome and Wiggins. Especially Wiggins. Wiggins could not climb over a railway line

 

[Ferminal]

Armstrong wasn't on EPO as a neo, when do you think Chavanel started?

 

[darwin553]

If they can manipulate Tour winners, why no French Winner since the 80s?

The French too soft to contend for GC ??

 

[Galic Ho]

Look at what Chavanel did in the French chrono's this year. Last year he just beat second place. Same rider in second this year and Chavanel demolished him.

Chavanel is a very well rounded rider. Very versatile and skilled at pretty much everything. If he'd have joined OPQS a decade ago, he'd likely have been a GC rider. Has the skill.

He's definitely changed a thing or two since he joined OPQS IMO. Same with Tony Martin for that matter. A lot of rider with exceptionally strong chronos on that team.

 

[gooner]

"I can comfortably sit back and I know that no one can come along and say I have a positive test anywhere else. In 100 years' time my grandkids won't be hearing any new stories about my racing past," O'Grady says. "I won Paris-Roubaix and my Olympic gold medal plus all my other Tour de France successes clean. I am happy for all my tests ever taken after 1998 to be re-tested. Any time."

The investigation findings were to be released on the Alpe d'Huez stage of the Tour last July, but behind-the-scenes lobbying saw this postponed until the end of the race. It meant that when O'Grady and GreenEDGE achieved a stage-four victory in the team time trial, the most senior member of the unit was in fact sick with nerves.

"I just didn't want to be at the Tour and I knew it was time to retire," O'Grady recalls in the book. "I was dreading the Alpe d'Huez stage. I wasn't sure, but I knew there was a possibility my name would be there.''

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cycling...y-he-confessed-to-doping-20140103-309sx.html?

 

[Benotti69]

O'Grady demonstrating that the culture of doping and omerta is still strong. Will any of his past team mates call him out on his lies to prove that the culture of doping is over and a new era exits where doping is not tolerated?

Nope. Cycling's culture is to dope.

 

[Marco Pantani]

Stuey is fighting hard with Mr. Voight for the omerta top spot.

 

[Benotti69]

How long before O'Grady has to do a Zabel?

Guys should be thrown out of the sport for life. Only doped once! It is like asking fans to believe in unicorns............P!$$ off Stuey.

 

[The Hitch]

What found really interesting was this

Stuart O'Grady has detailed how he could have continued denying he doped, but instead resolved there was no turning back after confessing to his family and team before a French Senate investigation ultimately tabled inconclusive evidence against him.

How noble of him.

 

[the sceptic]

Nice to know that even though he tested positive, he never tested positive.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Nice to know that even though he tested positive, he never tested positive.

Methinks O'Grady spent too many hours starring down at the tarmac....

 

[IndianCyclist]

The investigation findings were to be released on the Alpe d'Huez stage of the Tour last July, but behind-the-scenes lobbying saw this postponed until the end of the race. It meant that when O'Grady and GreenEDGE achieved a stage-four victory in the team time trial, the most senior member of the unit was in fact sick with nerves.

"I just didn't want to be at the Tour and I knew it was time to retire," O'Grady recalls in the book. "I was dreading the Alpe d'Huez stage. I wasn't sure, but I knew there was a possibility my name would be there.''

Here's the conclusive evidence that doping has far reaching effects in that it continued to assist O'Grady to win from 1998 to 2013 due to increased adrenalin.

 

[Ferminal]

How long before O'Grady has to do a Zabel?

How long before he does a White!?

Give him 12 months, he will be back. Maybe they can even roll Vance out again just to make sure of it.

 

[Benotti69]

How long before he does a White!?

Give him 12 months, he will be back. Maybe they can even roll Vance out again just to make sure of it.

If Cookson was truly anti doping he would test as much of O'Grady's p!$$ as he can get the labs to test!

 

[Arnout]

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cycling...y-he-confessed-to-doping-20140103-309sx.html?

So he prides himself on only doping at some point (which I highly doubt) in his career. That's like saying I'm proud because I only murdered someone 17 years ago (I didn't in case you're reading, NSA spy) and never ever since.

Tosser.

 

[DirtyWorks]

So he prides himself on only doping at some point (which I highly doubt) in his career.
Tosser.

I know that no one can come along and say I have a positive test anywhere else.

Never tested positive!!!

Yup. Clean as a whistle.

 

[robow7]

Earlier he stated he couldn't keep up without doping so he was forced to dope, then he begins to not only keep up but actually begins to win, but then he decides to never dope again and yet he keeps winning. Wow that stuff has some prolonged effect.