Okay, let's give him that thread: Colbrelli, you deserve it

[Sciatic]

I stand by what I said. You decided to use someone’s misfortune to push your agenda.

I will add this, there are many similar articles That are similar.

Sudden Cardiac Death in Athletes - PMC

There are clear health benefits to exercise; even so, patients with cardiac conditions who engage in exercise and athletic competition may on rare occasion experience sudden cardiac death (SCD). This article reviews the epidemiology and common ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I’m not saying this is what Colbrelli just experienced, but just want to note there is well-established research documenting this type event, which has been well documented in the medical community for decades.

 

[red_flanders]

Right, so we just can't wait until we actually know what happened?

You're welcome to! It's a discussion forum. I'm not sure what the issue is talking about it.

 

[Skijumper Roglic fan]

I would say Colbrelli is on top of his game. He won Roubaix last year. He was very strong last autumn.

Probably, over the winter, he and the people close to him got to the conclusion that with this shape he had in 2021, or an even better shape, he can win the biggest races in 2022 and afterwards. Victories which would make him famous, and which would enable him to earn a lot of money. Even more money than he earned in the past.

I think this new hunger increased his motivation, and then maybe something like a bronchitis hit him, just at the wrong time. This certainly hit him hard mentally, and he could not endure seeing to lose his great shape. So maybe he started to early, and was still ill. And then possibly his heart failed for a few moments.

Glad that his situation has been improving since yesterday

 

[jmdirt]

You're welcome to! It's a discussion forum. I'm not sure what the issue is talking about it.

But you aren't talking about it, you are are talking about "what ifs and maybes".

 

[RedheadDane]

Sonny Colbrelli says he needs a 'miracle' to get back on bike, after collapsing at Volta a Catalunya | Cycling Weekly

 

[SHAD0W93]

Sonny Colbrelli says he needs a 'miracle' to get back on bike, after collapsing at Volta a Catalunya | Cycling Weekly

Oh no!!!!!!!
that’s terrible

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

The news is that there is no news. They're still looking for the cause of the problem. Doesn't look like the moment to draw any conclusions.

 

[RedheadDane]

The news is that there is no news. They're still looking for the cause of the problem. Doesn't look like the moment to draw any conclusions.

It went from "No serious issues detected."
To "Needs a miracle to get back on the bike."

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

It went from "No serious issues detected."
To "Needs a miracle to get back on the bike."

Did you actually read the article further than the headline?

 

[RedheadDane]

Did you actually read the article further than the headline?

Yes.
And after the initial report of "No serious issues detected", I dared hope that he could make it back.
Now... it doesn't quite so good.

But of course, miracles have happened before.

 

[tobydawq]

I don't think you need to take the word miracle to literally here.

 

[SafeBet]

As soon as it happened it was clear getting back on the bike would be a bonus. Pro cycling is no joke for the heart.

 

[Mayomaniac]

As soon as it happened it was clear getting back on the bike would be a bonus. Pro cycling is no joke for the heart.

Yeah, the low impact nature of the sport means that you're more likely to push your cardiovascular system to it's limits before the rest of you body gives up.
I hope he can come back, but as long as he can live a normal life with his wife and his children he'll probably be fine.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Looks like he's get a pacemaker. That means no more riding under Italian license, because you aren't allowed to compete as an athlete in Italy if you need a pacemaker. At least it didn't happen during a training session with no ambulance nearby, the fact that it happened at the end of a race was probably a blessing in disguise in that regard.

 

[Tim Cahill]

I found this thing where you can create flowcharts, very primitive and rather shoddily put together but I've had my fun.

 

[Panda Claws]

Can someone translate what Colbrelli means here?

• Miracle is needed because he is suffering from lasting consequences
• Miracle is needed because he would not ride again without knowing the cause and it would be miraculous if doctors could pinpoint it
• Miracle is needed because he doesn't care enough about cycling to risk this happening again
• It is purely a figure of speech and he just means to say that he is "hoping/praying for the best" (as in Lord please grant me another miracle)

The article really is not clear about this imo

 

[jmdirt]

Can someone translate what Colbrelli means here?

• Miracle is needed because he is suffering from lasting consequences
• Miracle is needed because he would not ride again without knowing the cause and it would be miraculous if doctors could pinpoint it
• Miracle is needed because he doesn't care enough about cycling to risk this happening again
• It is purely a figure of speech and he just means to say that he is "hoping/praying for the best" (as in Lord please grant me another miracle)

The article really is not clear about this imo

I am calling him to ask, but the hospital has me on hold...............

 

[SHAD0W93]

Looks like he's get a pacemaker. That means no more riding under Italian license, because you aren't allowed to compete as an athlete in Italy if you need a pacemaker. At least it didn't happen during a training session with no ambulance nearby, the fact that it happened at the end of a race was probably a blessing in disguise in that regard.

Is it a pacemaker or an internal defibrillator?

 

[Mayomaniac]

Is it a pacemaker or an internal defibrillator?

An internal defibrillator, my bad.

 

[RedheadDane]

Can someone translate what Colbrelli means here?

• Miracle is needed because he is suffering from lasting consequences
• Miracle is needed because he would not ride again without knowing the cause and it would be miraculous if doctors could pinpoint it
• Miracle is needed because he doesn't care enough about cycling to risk this happening again
• It is purely a figure of speech and he just means to say that he is "hoping/praying for the best" (as in Lord please grant me another miracle)

The article really is not clear about this imo

Probably a combination.

But my initial dismay was because I thought the "No serious issues detected" bit meant, well... just that. That they'd checked everything, and there really was no serious issues. Not - as it turned out - that they simply still didn't know anything.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Probably a combination.

But my initial dismay was because I thought the "No serious issues detected" bit meant, well... just that. That they'd checked everything, and there really was no serious issues. Not - as it turned out - that they simply still didn't know anything.

I think it’s pretty serious that they went for the internal defibrillator after what we know is one occurrence.

 

[RedheadDane]

I think it’s pretty serious that they went for the internal defibrillator after what we know is one occurrence.

I didn't know about the internal defibrillator until today.

 

[jmdirt]

I think it’s pretty serious that they went for the internal defibrillator after what we know is one occurrence.

I know two people who have ICD's. One is a 60 year old triathlete who got her first ICD in the late '90s. She struggled with 'heart irregularities' for many years until she got her first implant. Some of you may remember me talking about her ICD replacement surgery getting postponed due to the COVID crisis care at the hospitals. While she is not at the level of Colbrelli, the implant has made exertion safer for her. The other is a 40 something fireman who was a BSU basketball player, who played pro in Italy for 10ish years and then finished up in the D league here in the USA. He is an absolute physical specimen, and crazy strong. He went out on a call and was unresponsive when they arrived on scene. Fortunately his crew kept him alive until he got to the hospital. He has no limitations with his ICD.

Neither of these examples means anything to Colbrelli because no two cases are exactly the same, but they do mean that these devices can make it possible to return to strenuous activity. Since we really don't have enough details, its impossible to draw any conclusions, but an ICD isn't a sign of 'the end'.

As for "after one occurrence", the perfect time to implant an ICD is prior to an occurrence, but since prior detection is rare, after the first occurrence is the next best time.

 

[SHAD0W93]

I know two people who have ICD's. One is a 60 year old triathlete who got her first ICD in the late '90s. She struggled with 'heart irregularities' for many years until she got her first implant. Some of you may remember me talking about her ICD replacement surgery getting postponed due to the COVID crisis care at the hospitals. While she is not at the level of Colbrelli, the implant has made exertion safer for her. The other is a 40 something fireman who was a BSU basketball player, who played pro in Italy for 10ish years and then finished up in the D league here in the USA. He is an absolute physical specimen, and crazy strong. He went out on a call and was unresponsive when they arrived on scene. Fortunately his crew kept him alive until he got to the hospital. He has no limitations with his ICD.

Neither of these examples means anything to Colbrelli because no two cases are exactly the same, but they do mean that these devices can make it possible to return to strenuous activity. Since we really don't have enough details, its impossible to draw any conclusions, but an ICD isn't a sign of 'the end'.

As for "after one occurrence", the perfect time to implant an ICD is prior to an occurrence, but since prior detection is rare, after the first occurrence is the next best time.

True but they’d usually want to find why to see if actually needed. Though I did forget he’s not at home so that’d be a good safety measure for a just in case to get back to home. Then seek help.

 

[Bolder]

Christian Eriksen has an ICD and has returned to pro football. https://www.skysports.com/football/...-heart-im-safer-on-the-pitch-than-anyone-else

When I had my heart issues, I was under consideration for an ICD. Frankly I would have been happy to receive one!

I didn't see official confirmation that Colbrelli would receive an ICD. Usually cardiologists want to monitor you for a month or so, although I think Eriksen got his within 2 weeks.

As someone who was given a second chance at life after cardiac arrest, I went through all the stages of grief, but to be honest I've been able to return to recreational cycling and most other activities. And I'm enjoying every second. Even if Sonny can't get back to pro cycling, with time I think he'll appreciate life even more.