Paris-Nice 2012 - Stage 8: Nice - Col d'Èze (ITT), 9,6 km

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Mambo95 said:
Wiggins was competing for first place overall, not second like those two teams.

A) Thats not necessarily true the red roses can still win now (somehow)
B) Pride is the most important thing and losing to France (and in France) is much worse than just losing in France.
 
hrotha said:
Great, more nationalistic malarkey. Just what we needed.

Let us have our fun. Our rugby team doesn't win in France very often and our cyclists have hardly won anything over the years.

By the way, it was an absolutely privelege to watch Wiggo today. His torso hardly moved a millimetre, right the way up that climb. Absolutely masterful. Respect to Westra, too. What a beast. They gave us great entertainment.
 
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Poursuivant said:
Interesting that. Do any cyclists read this forum? Their must be some who are curious.

Marco Pinotti certainly has done. He even made a couple of posts (as marcopinotti).
 
Didn't Landis say something like "the only thing worse than reading cyclingnews is talking with them"? :D

I suppose I would read forums like this if I were a pro, but posting non-anonymously is probably a mistake.
 
King Of The Wolds said:
Richie Porte does, or at least did. He called it an evil place.

To be fair to Porte, I think he just said that some hurtful things are said on these forums, and the interviewer said it was an evil place, which Porte laughed at in sort of noncommittal agreement.

Frankly, it goes both ways. Porte was initially extremely overrated based on his initial breakthrough, then the backlash came and went too far in the opposite direction; his talent level, as with most people, lay somewhere between the levels suggested by the initial hype and the resultant backlash.
 
Libertine Seguros said:
To be fair to Porte, I think he just said that some hurtful things are said on these forums, and the interviewer said it was an evil place, which Porte laughed at in sort of noncommittal agreement.

Frankly, it goes both ways. Porte was initially extremely overrated based on his initial breakthrough, then the backlash came and went too far in the opposite direction; his talent level, as with most people, lay somewhere between the levels suggested by the initial hype and the resultant backlash.

The other side is that things are only overrated or underrated when people care. Pros might be annoyed with us (I bet not with me though :cool: ), but in the end we provide the means by the attention we give the sport.
 
Moviefan1203 said:
Great win for Brad, he earned it. Well done man! Always good to see English speaking riders win big races. :)

You're not going to restart this whole Anglo thing again are you. Besides, I don't get why rooting for a rider from another country just because they speak the same language!? We don't talk with these guys in the peloton, we watch them. So it's what I see someone doing on their bike that leads me to root/not root for them. Makes more sense to me to root for someone because of their kit design than because of the language they speak!
 
Sciatic said:
You're not going to restart this whole Anglo thing again are you. Besides, I don't get why rooting for a rider from another country just because they speak the same language!? We don't talk with these guys in the peloton, we watch them. So it's what I see someone doing on their bike that leads me to root/not root for them. Makes more sense to me to root for someone because of their kit design than because of the language they speak!

I'm not intentionally starting any debate, but I believe it's good for cycling as a whole when English speaking cyclists win races like Paris-Nice. And yes, I tend to root for English speaking cyclists because I can identify with them.
 
Moviefan1203 said:
I'm not intentionally starting any debate, but I believe it's good for cycling as a whole when English speaking cyclists win races like Paris-Nice. And yes, I tend to root for English speaking cyclists because I can identify with them.

Why would cycling as a whole benefit more from an English-speaking rider winning than any other?
 
Moviefan1203 said:
Money.

Ten character rule, I apologize.

In that case, isn't it better for a Mandarin-speaking rider to win it?

As far as I can see, big bucks isn't necessarily good for the sport, because as long as it's concentrated in the hands of a few and the cost of being competitive is driven up, many people are being priced out of the market.