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He had great bedside manner.Race Radio said:Even if he is a nice guy he should be out of the sport.
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He had great bedside manner.Race Radio said:Even if he is a nice guy he should be out of the sport.
Le breton said:Hi RaceRadio, can you comment please?
Le breton said:Hi RaceRadio, can you comment please?
IIRC He has already said that he thinks that Porte is clean.Zam_Olyas said:Okay,then . Who is clean or you think is clean according to you and your sources?
Race Radio said:Why? Whatever I write will be endlessly distorted.
I am pretty sure JV was not talking about Mr.Clean's blood values, but you should ask him
The sources for my position are multiple discussions with multiple people connected with the sport.
Löfkvist?pmcg76 said:Well considering that JV said it was someone the clinic mostly believes to be clean, the only person who fits the bill is Moncoutie
Nicko. said:Löfkvist?
Performes lika a clean talent. Always folds after a few hard stages. Wasn't invited to Tenerife by Sky. Temporarily withheld the pink jersey from DiLuca@Menchov in 09.
Clean?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Löfkvist
Nicko. said:Löfkvist?
Performes lika a clean talent. Always folds after a few hard stages. Wasn't invited to Tenerife by Sky. Temporarily withheld the pink jersey from DiLuca@Menchov in 09.
Clean?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Löfkvist
Come on, give us some credit. Who distorts your posts, other than the few regular trolls? Might as well never post anything again in that case.Race Radio said:Why? Whatever I write will be endlessly distorted.
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The sources for my position are multiple discussions with multiple people connected with the sport.
Especially if it just took a deep look in RP's eyes to diagnose scrupulous cleanliness.hrotha said:Come on, give us some credit. Who distorts your posts, other than the few regular trolls? Might as well never post anything again in that case.
Could you elaborate on the content of those discussions a bit? That's all we're asking. Moncoutié has long been held as a standard of what clean riders could achieve, so if we have to reassess our starting assumptions we're going to need more than this.
Hmm, I see what RR meant by "distorting his posts"...Mr.38% said:Especially if it just took a deep look in RP's eyes to diagnose scrupulous cleanliness.
Either say what you want to say or don't say anything at all. If you're touching "icons" like Moncoutié or LeMond, you better back it up. RR should know this.hrotha said:Hmm, I see what RR meant by "distorting his posts"...
I agree with the second part of your post, that's been my whole point since he brought it up for the first time almost three months ago.Mr.38% said:Either say what you want to say or don't say anything at all. If you're touching "icons" like Moncoutié or LeMond, you better back it up. RR should know this.
Let's agree that RRs narration of the dinner with Porte sounds a bit funny in the context.hrotha said:I agree with the second part of your post, that's been my whole point since he brought it up for the first time almost three months ago.
I'm referring to the part where you say RR said Porte was clean and that he knew by looking him in the eyes.
Race Radio said:It is funny how riders today are declared dirty because they win.....but a guy who won the KOM at the Vuelta 4 times gets a pass because one guy said something 15 years ago
And in 2012 Simon Clarke won itFerminal said:KOM is a pretty meaningless competition when it's a breakaway contest of mediocre climbers. But anyway, Moncoutie won all of his 2008 onwards so that is no different to any victory today, if a guy who wins T-A Trentino Giro in a season can be clean surely a guy who wins four consecutive Vuelta breakaway KOMs can be clean too.
We should continue this in the Moncoutié thread. Suffice to say, he wasn't given a free pass. He was analyzed in-depth.Race Radio said:It is funny how riders today are declared dirty because they win.....but a guy who won the KOM at the Vuelta 4 times gets a pass because one guy said something 15 years ago
hrotha said:Come on, give us some credit. Who distorts your posts, other than the few regular trolls? Might as well never post anything again in that case.
Could you elaborate on the content of those discussions a bit? That's all we're asking. Moncoutié has long been held as a standard of what clean riders could achieve, so if we have to reassess our starting assumptions we're going to need more than this.
Dont mind me but you are doing the exact same here.Race Radio said:It is funny how riders today are declared dirty because they win.....but a guy who won the KOM at the Vuelta 4 times gets a pass because one guy said something 15 years ago
To be fair, he crashed a lot, and there was the Tondo thing too.roundabout said:2011 Intxausti was crap after April.
It's amazing how much better he has suddenly become.