Proof of government doping program in Russia

[DirtyWorks]

and there we have it: a German documentary exposing mass Russian doping and yet again the clinic manages to make the discussion more about British doping.

Starting to look a little obsessive guys.

Actually scratch starting, it's been looking that way for a long time.

If doped athletes are beaten, and the athletes finishing in front of nation with doping program never tested positive then, the higher performing athletes are cleans.

Yup. It makes perfect sense.

 

[Briant_Gumble]

It's hardly a stretch to imagine that certain British athletes are doping; Ennis, Ohuruogu and Murray all look highly suspicious.

However, this is only likely to be brought to light if certain elements within WADA, the IAAF and the press are removed in the fallout from this.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Alls well, Seppelt gunning for the UCI, now:

http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/12/a...ill-speak-to-the-circ-about-uci-and-contador/

( a busy evening)

 

[Race Radio]

Full script, in English, of the ARD documentary
https://www.scribd.com/doc/249307975/English-Script

 

[sniper]

I just watched this brief interview (in German) with Hajo Seppelt, done after his documentary was transmitted on ARD.
He repeats that he's received intel/emails (I assume from athletes) about similar practices going on in other countries and
says his team are planning to look into other countries as well.
I genuinely hope they do.

One great thing about Hajo is that he doesn't cease to praise the whistleblowers. Also, he/his reports hardly ever points blaming fingers at the athletes, but rather focuses on the corrupt sports bodies.

 

[poupou]

I will not be surprise if such practise is widely spread in most countries.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

No. Cleans. IOC sports are cleans because Nike and McDonald's say so.

Just ask Sepp Blatter at the next WADA meeting.

http://www.olympic.org/mr-joseph-s-blatter

member of the Foundation Board of the World Anti-Doping Agency (2007-)

https://www.wada-ama.org/en/who-we-are/governance/foundation-board

Russia has a direct role on WADA's board too.

Yeah, good post, people have too much fate in WADA or NADA's, their hands are tied to the highest bidder.

Bread and circuses, but then 2000 years A.C. [no, not A.C. from the Puerto files ]

Full script, in English, of the ARD documentary
https://www.scribd.com/doc/249307975/English-Script

Grazie mille.

 

[neineinei]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ot...egations-systematic-doping-Russian-sport.html

Pound added: ‘If the allegations are proved with sufficient certainly, the IAAF, WADA and IOC could say the Russians are non-compliant (with the WADA code) and that they’re suspended from all competitions until they clean up.

‘What I don’t know is if there are sufficient balls within these organisations to make that happen.’

I think it is pretty ballsy of Reedie to say WADA doesn't have the power to do anything about the Moscow lab or RUSADA. It is equal to saying they are fine with anti-doping officials running a large scale doping operation, providing doping products, making doping plans for athletes, falsify doping test results, and seeing to their athletes not getting tested; basically a complete undermining and corruption of the anti-doping system. What Reedie really is saying is of course; "Anti-doping officials and heads of doping laboratories all over the world, go ahead and do the same. There is a market out there, why not make some money? Big stars getting caught is bad for buisiness, IOC doesn't like it. Catch some small ones now and then, but let the stars be stars. Seasons greetings from Craig and Thomas."

 

[Race Radio]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ot...egations-systematic-doping-Russian-sport.html



I think it is pretty ballsy of Reedie to say WADA doesn't have the power to do anything about the Moscow lab or RUSADA. It is equal to saying they are fine with anti-doping officials running a large scale doping operation, providing doping products, making doping plans for athletes, falsify doping test results, and seeing to their athletes not getting tested; basically a complete undermining and corruption of the anti-doping system. What Reedie really is saying is of course; "Anti-doping officials and heads of doping laboratories all over the world, go ahead and do the same. There is a market out there, why not make some money? Big stars getting caught is bad for buisiness, IOC doesn't like it. Catch some small ones now and then, but let the stars be stars. Seasons greetings from Craig and Thomas."

If only someone had warned us about Reedie

Unfortunately this is not the case. Craig Reedie, who will be the new head of WADA, is Verbruggen's boy and he is tight with several of the 6 running for IOC president.

He never goes away.....just like herpes

Good post Race

To be fair, Reedie is the political guy at WADA. He manages up while Howman manages down. Others in the organization are more free with their words.

Part two of the program aired tonight. Should be interesting.

 

[Race Radio]

The 2nd part of the program was not much better.

After she tested positive Shobukhova was repaid by the firm Black Tidings, who she had paid to get the positive killed.

The son of the president of the international athletics union is very good friends with a Chinese business partner who is directly connected to Black Tidings. The Chinese business partner who is also further connected directly to the IAAF as a marketing consultant.

IAAF president Lamine Diack in 2011 already warned by the IOC because of involvement in a bribery scandal.

Valentin Balachnitsjev, next president of the Russian athletics federation also a board member of the IAAF, also had at least knowledge of the transaction. Which this is demonstrated through an internal IAAF document. Balachnitsjev denies all the revelations of ARD as "lies".

Also new is the way the Russian anti-doping agency Rusada performs its checks. Through a hidden camera it is shown that athletes are called in advance by the doping inspector. Often the athelte provides a sample without the tester witnessing. These two practices are against WADA rules. A test must always unannounced and the athlete should always be watched

 

[Race Radio]

Here is the the 2nd half, in German.

http://youtu.be/Qr7XmF-QOw8

 

[westerner]

My German's not all that great, but seeing that occ doping control footage was brutal.

Hard not to have a lot of, concern for and a lot of admiration for the Stepanov's. They are certainly 'heros' of anti doping. The xUSPS guys should feel pretty embarrassed at believing they made any great sacrifice, all near or at the end of their careers, after many years of cheating and enriching themselves and I hope Travis Tygart see's what is real bravery instead of this BS: "They’re obviously a brave group of riders, to come in and tell the truth"
Read more at http://velonews.competitor.com/2014...-the-doping-battle_350348#lU9FrjWqzY0TRQvX.99

All athletes and administrators should have to watch this documentary to see what sacrifices a couple of their young peers have made in the name of clean sport. That young couple has put a lot on the line to help sport fight doping and corruption.

To quote ol **** Pound again:‘What I don’t know is if there are sufficient balls within these organisations to make that happen.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ot...matic-doping-Russian-sport.html#ixzz3LGsvxVXl
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Shame on the sport bodies if they 'don't grow some' and seriously tackle this particular scandal and have an honest look around their own backyards too.

Seems like its pretty deep though. Shame.

 

[thehog]

Didn't Cookson do a deal with Markov on Menchov?

This Russian doping runs deep.

 

[MrKangaroo]

Sport Inside (German tv show) just did a 10min follow up on the documentary.

 

[sniper]

Sport Inside (German tv show) just did a 10min follow up on the documentary.

cool. any noteworthy additions?

 

[MrKangaroo]

cool. any noteworthy additions?

They digged some more into the Singapore company that payed back the 300k to the marathon runner and and found connections to some African guy connected with the IAAF, iirc he was the son of a high ranking official but I'd have to watch it again to remember the exact details.
They also went to Monte Carlo and spoke with an IAAF whistleblower who showed them a list with very suspicious blood results (as in almost certainly doping) that weren't further investigated from all kinds of different nations.

Other than that they showed some reactions from Russia, visited Vitali Stepanov in Vienna and reiterated that they can back up their allegations with lots of documents and video/audio recordings.


People with a German IP can watch it here: http://www1.wdr.de/fernsehen/information/sport_inside/sendungen/dopingrussland104.html

 

[Race Radio]

http://www1.wdr.de/fernsehen/information/sport_inside/indexsportinside100.html

Here is Hajo's short overview of part 3

According to a long time member of the IAAF Medical Commission the assumed no-follow-up (or cover up?) of Doping has been happening much longer than we thought. The IAAF Anti Doping Department did apparently not follow up on highly suspicious blood values from at least 150 athletes from around the world (Russia, Spain, Morocco, Kenya, Germany, United Kingdom and many more countries) at a a time where the only chance to catch them was target testing: 2006 to 2008. The vast majority of these cases would still be sanctionable by the Anti Doping rules if they had done a Target testing.

The witness tells us, that - although the IAAF Anti Doping Department has been aware of highly suspicious blood values from athletes - they obviously did not try to do a testing on these people. According to the long Time IAAF Medical expert. His quotes are part of the programme.

 

[thehog]

They digged some more into the Singapore company that payed back the 300k to the marathon runner and connections to some African guy connected with the IAAF, iirc he was the son of a high ranking official but I'd have to watch it again to remember the exact details.
They also went to Monte Carlo and spoke with an IAAF whistleblower who showed them a list with very suspicious blood results (as in almost certainly doping) that weren't further investigated from all kinds of different nations.

Other than that they showed some reactions for Russia, visited Vitali Stepanov in Vienna and reiterated that they can back up their allegations with lots of documents and video/audio recordings.


People with a German IP can watch it here: http://www1.wdr.de/fernsehen/information/sport_inside/sendungen/dopingrussland104.html

'The son of a high ranking official'. Wow... it's like.. almost like the UCI down there at the IAAF!

Good post, thanks for the information.

 

[the sceptic]

 

[neineinei]

It is the son of Lamine Diack, president of IAAF since forever (1999), Papa Massata Diack.

Another story about Diack jr from yesterday (only available through webcache, as theguardian.com has removed it):

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...amine+Diack&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&hl=no&&ct=clnk

 

[Tyler'sTwin]

http://www1.wdr.de/fernsehen/information/sport_inside/indexsportinside100.html

Here is Hajo's short overview of part 3

Reminds me of the spanish study on pre-ABP blood values.

As a test, and demonstrate the need for implementation in the athletics of the biological passport, a mechanism already used in cycling and takes into account the usual hematologic a sportsman over the years for possible referrals due doping, a group of scientists from the anti-doping laboratory in Lausanne and the IAAF, among which is the Spanish physician Juan Manuel Alonso, have published a study using the basis of 7,289 blood samples from 2001 to 2737 athletes from around the world, most of them joggers.

His conclusion is spectacular: 14% of the samples are suspected of blood doping (use of EPO or autologous) if the formula is applied to the passport, which includes the relationship between hematocrit, hemoglobin and reticulocytes.

This fact, stated by the authors as a major argument for starting the passport serves, however, reveal that the IAAF was aware for years that there were a number of athletes who are not cheaters punished.

"The study raises more questions than it answers. Shows that during the last decade, the IAAF knew what athletes showed abnormal hematologic results," says Australian scientist Michael Ashenden, one of the world's greatest experts on blood doping, "is sad that a federation with much power as the IAAF has chosen so far not punish such cases while a smaller, such as ICU, assume the legal risk to test the passport before the courts. Anyway, better late than never. " Recently, the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) gave a big boost to the passport as an indirect method of drug testing to punish the Italian cyclists Pietro Caucchioli and Franco Pellizotti.

Another finding of the study, published in the journal Clinical Chemistry, is the great heterogeneity of results by geographic region of the athletes. There is a country where 48% of the samples are suspect, another 39%, another 23% ... Although the study clearly anonymous, does not reveal the names of countries, extrapolating the number of positive cases of doping in recent years, it can be concluded without error that are Russia, Morocco, France and Spain the most polluted, as well as Operation Greyhound has revealed.

"If we accept everything he says the study, 20% of those 2,737 athletes could be punished. But, being more conservative, we would talk about 100 world class. Assuming that half are still competing, speak of 50 possible cases doping, "says Ashenden, who, apart from big supporter of the passport, is one of the UCI experts to analyze the data," the implications of this issue are enormous not only for what they pose to the track itself but also by the unprecedented legal burden would in court sports. "

http://elpais.com/diario/2011/04/03/deportes/1301781615_850215.html

 

[DirtyWorks]

It is the son of Lamine Diack, president of IAAF since forever (1999), Papa Massata Diack.

Another story about Diack jr from yesterday (only available through webcache, as theguardian.com has removed it):

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...amine+Diack&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&hl=no&&ct=clnk

I love the Internet! This is the kind of story the IOC would not like reaching a large audience.

Papa Massata Diack asked for the payment – $4.5m via bank transfer and $440,000 in cash to be collected in person in Doha – in October 2011.


His company, Pazmodi Sports Marketing, also branched out beyond athletics and was one of those implicated during the summer in the scandal involving World Cup hospitality tickets in Brazil.

He was one of the non-football names included on a list of those bribed by the now defunct Swiss sports marketing agency ISL to the tune of $100m, which was leaked to the BBC. According to the list obtained by the programme, Diack received a total of $41,500 in three tranches.

This, in my estimation, is about average corruption for an IOC sport. So, how much are UCI officials making?

 

[DirtyWorks]

Coe is trying to end the controversy by blaming it all on "Russia" and banning the country.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...etition-if-doping-allegations-are-proven.html

Yeah... All those bad athletes..

 

[Race Radio]

Reedie is working hard to kill this story. Pretending he cannot do anything about the lab, even though WADA already suspended the Russian lab before the Sochi games. He said he does not believe the claims in the report.

Reedie is good friends with Verburggen and McQuaid. He comes from their world. He just wants to keep the money coming in and cover up anything that smells

 

[westerner]

Not sure if this radio interview in English with Hajo Seppelt was quoted here yet?

Starts with the Stepanovs contacting WADA and not getting any action...