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turns you batsh!t insane and distorts your view of reality into something resembling a Hansel and Gretel fairytale
turns you batsh!t insane and distorts your view of reality into something resembling a Hansel and Gretel fairytale
lostintime said:Same old arguments for, and against. . . lol
What it all comes down to is one's belief system within themselves. "Evidence" to support one's perspective will ALWAYS present itself to confirm your own personal belief system. So in every sense of the word .... to "argue" for or against that which you most strongly believe in .... you are ultimately doing so with no one but yourself![]()
iZnoGouD said:just do what your heart tells you to do, you will be ok
hiero2 said:Same arguments, for and against: yeah, pretty much. Except it isn't JUST belief systems - different diets do work better for different people. I've known people who honestly got more energy from removing meat from their diet, and people who got more energy from removing pretty much everything except meat. So one point is that you need to listen, not just to your heart, but your stomach and muscles.
hiero2 said:...different diets do work better for different people. I've known people who honestly got more energy from removing meat from their diet, and people who got more energy from removing pretty much everything except meat. So one point is that you need to listen, not just to your heart, but your stomach and muscles.
King Boonen said:Due to early onset osteoporosis caused by vitamin D and calcium deficiency.
durianrider said:I thought Vitamin D was from the sunshine?
Correct me if Im wrong has there EVER been a dietary related calcium deficiency EVER discovered in modern medical history?
I guess all these Australian drinking milk with vitamin D deficiency are vegans right?I was unaware 73% of Australia was vegan!!
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-11/three-quarters-of-all-australians-at-risk-of/4683750
Vitamin D is non-essential but it is unlikely you will get enough through exposure to sunlight, hence why most health bodies will have a recommended vitamin D dietary intake.
Hypocalcaemia has been linked to eating disorders and low dietary calcium intake so yes there has.
durianrider said:Vitamin D is non-essential eh? I thought you were saying just recently that a vegan would die in their sleep from Vit D deficiency caused from not drinking bovine milk (which ironically has Vit D added to it at time of processing typically).
Hmm..couldnt find anything about hypocalcemia being caused by not consuming enough mg of calcium per day..
Could you please explain why Australia, US, England etc have such high dairy consumption yet such high osteoporosis rates?
Cheers mate.
elapid said:Also not sure who is arguing vitamin D is an essential or non-essential vitamin in people, but vitamin D is an essential vitamin.
King Boonen said:Again, maybe you need to look up what an essential vitamin and a non-essential vitamin is. Vitamin D is non-essential, because it can be synthesised in the body. This does not mean it is not required.
King Boonen said:Fair enough, we live and learn. Doesn't change the discussion though.
King Boonen said:Again, maybe you need to look up what an essential vitamin and a non-essential vitamin is. Vitamin D is non-essential, because it can be synthesised in the body. This does not mean it is not required.
MellowJohnny said:Got to say (as a vegetarian) since cutting out a lot of diary I'm pedalling longer, faster and stronger. The only real con of eating so strict is getting enough calories in, other than that a plant based diet works for me![]()
durianrider said:high carb low fat vegan diet works for everyone.
Michele said:It's like saying that your training schedule fit everyones.
The discussion is about how awesome Harley is. Just look at any of his posts...elapid said:This is where I am a little confused - what is the discussion? Osteoporosis, high calcium diets, Western diets, vegan diets?
Whole grain pasta works wonders. If you are wheat intolerant I recommend SpeltMellowJohnny said:Got to say (as a vegetarian) since cutting out a lot of diary I'm pedalling longer, faster and stronger. The only real con of eating so strict is getting enough calories in, other than that a plant based diet works for me![]()