I compared the lap times at the World Championships in Bogense last year for the Junior Men, U23 Men and Elite Men. The junior men were approximately 5% slower than the elite men (MVDP) with average lap times of 06:04 (7 laps) compared to U23 05:58 (8 laps) and Elite 05:47 (12 laps). Just taking average lap times on the winner (Ben Turner) in junior men he would place 24 in Elite men but in reality probably significantly further behind since 5 more laps would make a large difference.Haven't checked recently, but in 2013, only 2 pros had faster lap times than van Aert in the u23 s. Nys and Stybar. But Thibau is only junior now.
Makes sense. Also because often the pros would ride more tactically especially in races where they can't drop each other, and lower the tempo. Whereas un youth ranks, it's often full gas all the time.interview with david vd poel a while back was that Mathieu was already lapping faster than all pro's sometimes in u23 races...
I think the thing with riders like Pidcock and Iserbyt is the superprestige u23 had been combined with the elite last year so they had a season or two to ride and take blows out of each other on their own, and then they were thrown into battles with the worlds best and had to up their game. From this it's also easy to see why the lap times weren't far off. Plus with the U23 worlds, the race being around 50min they ride for less time so can go harder for longer as they don't have to save a bit more for that extra 10-15min or and elite WC.The juniors I train with can often ride really difficult sections due to their lower weight, particularly uphill sand sections.
Still, TNys looks already like something extra. It would be fun to know just how fast he is compared to the U23 and Elite men. Last year at Bogense I remember that they talked about how close the U23 (Pidcock/Iserbyt) lap times were to the Elite. Major difference was the consistency and number of intense efforts that Elite men could produce. Since conditions didn’t change all too much between the days Junior men times could possibly be compared...
I don't know how Mathieu being a minute up the road, would otherwise push the other rider's pace? That shouldn't matter unless they'd be in danger of getting lapped. I think it's just end of season, these guys aren't Mathieu (or Wout) and are knackered.Despite the riders being on the limit, the pace seemed to be a bit slower than with Van Der Poel. I think partly because the sand was quite loose and the ruts weren't holding the wheels well, but also because VDP wasn't pushing the pace.
The young Dutch generation of woman have started training on it. I've already mentioned it a few weeks ago. The teens have been doing it for a while.Don't think I've ever seen a woman rider jump the barriers before.
And at the front, it's a familiar sight, with Alvarado and Worst.