Ricco's Girlfriend positive for CERA

[Rosaka]

I am SO angry with him, "Cycling isn't for women, it hurts too much." he's such a huge ***! How dare he say such a thing, it is about time someone gives this idiot a lifelong ban when it comes to talking in public and cycling. What a moron! And he confessed everything right away? Lies! He pretended to be innocent after he got caught, he is such a liar and a cheat...

 

[Escarabajo]

For the life of me I really can't see your problem with the post you're referring to, mr. 58 HCT. Do you really see yourself as someone all that different to Riccó? In my book you're not.

Take your personal garbage out of this Forum.

STOP it, all right.

 

[Bala Verde]

She must have used CERA for a faster delivery...

 

[flicker]

I am SO angry with him, "Cycling isn't for women, it hurts too much." he's such a huge ***! How dare he say such a thing, it is about time someone gives this idiot a lifelong ban when it comes to talking in public and cycling. What a moron! And he confessed everything right away? Lies! He pretended to be innocent after he got caught, he is such a liar and a cheat...

After a few kids and a couple of divorces I have realized the pain that women have endured and can return to man. The pain Ricarrdo is going to endure now is worse than the pain of any training ride or any race or his short 2 year ban, the pain he will endure now will break his spirit. I thank God for their child that they were caught.

 

[frenchfry]

The answer could be quite simple: she was prescribed CERA by the well known gynocologist Fuentes.

He was simply ensuring her health, as everyone knows that cycling without PED's is not good for you.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

(SHE IS YOUR WIFE!)

No, she's not. They are not married.

Susan

 

[Big GMaC]

The answer could be quite simple: she was prescribed CERA by the well known gynocologist Fuentes.

when do you think was the last time Fuentes did a proper Gyno exam?

 

[quiensabe]

With pleasure

Chill, give the man a break.

I'd be delighted to do just that. Several breaks. Should I start with his thick skull, and then both legs? I can't help feeling some ( a little) sympathy for his wife. With a supportive husband like him, she doesn't need enemies.

 

[python]

i don’t defend ricco but guilt by association is a dangerous weapon that can backfire or rico-chet wildly (pun not intended )

should we write down andy schleck because his bro was said to have paid fuentes and his pa was searched by the french police? just a little digging can turn up bucketloads of similar examples.

the sad thing for me here is that ricco seems immature. he talks last century nonsense about women and says disrespectful things about the mother of his baby whilst shes in trouble. that’s just stupid and low.

if he did not learn how to talk about sensitive private matters up to this point hell never be an adult and will hardly ever reach the professional heights as a rider no matter the talent.

as i said i dont see arrogance but stupidity.

 

[Franklin]

yes i know it there is a thread already dealing with ricco's wife and the expiry date on this is about 20 mins by our all powerful overseers .

But i wish to evaluate BY HIS RESPONSE, is there any backbone/soul/truth/integrity to the man? "

“What’s happened? I know as much as anyone else." (SHE IS YOUR WIFE!)

"I’ve been away from home for three months" (SHE IS YOUR WIFE, IT WAS THE OFF SEASON, YOU HAVE A NEW KID!!)

: but now everyone will put two and two together and ask ‘Who gave it to her? I’ll be guilty again,” -(2 PLUS 2 MAKE 4!!)

“I trust her. If she tells me something, I believe her. I don’t think she tells lies. (GOOD MAN- TRUST IS NEEDED IN A RELATIONSHIP) At least I hope (O NO) so because otherwise it a mess, (STOP!) especially with a baby involved.” (STOP DIGGIN)

“When I was found positive, I confessed everything. (WELL AFTER YOUR B SAMPLE AND 4 MONTHS LETS FACE IT) I was honest.(NO YOU ARE A CHEAT!) I hope she does the same. People know I don’t like her racing, you can imagine what I think about her taking anything. Cycling isn’t for women, it hurts too much.” (O NO- NOW YOUR AGAINST WOMEN -JUST STOP TALKING)

“The thing that bothers me is what people will think.(TRY THINKING WHY DONT YOU) I didn’t need this but I can’t go and kill myself.(YOU SURE ?) I’m going to carry on training.(YE SHE PROBABLY DOESNT NEED SUPPORT) It’s a strange situation (YES- BUT WAIT FOR IT, THIS IS THE CLINKER) but it’s nothing to do with me. (NOTHING! OMG SHE IS THE MOTHER OF YOUR BABY)

DO DOPERS LEARN THEIR LESSON?
ARE THEY HARD WIRED TO CHEAT?

I assume his GF is really helped if Ricco does the "honorable" thing and takes the blame?

Surely, Ricco's getting involved in this case is more important for his family than his paycheck?

And if Ricco says he knew it, this will surely help his GF in getting of the hook? In fact it would collaborate her story as being innocent?

So there you have it: I find it rather logical if his GF doesn't want Ricco taking responsibility or doing more than being evasive.... This is real life, not a knight of the round table honor and duty fantasy.

On the"it's not for women" part. Consider it like this: If you know that you need to dope to compete, would you want a loved one be a competitor? I sure don't want my son to become a pro racer, does that make me a bigot?

 

[Franklin]

I'd be delighted to do just that. Several breaks. Should I start with his thick skull, and then both legs? I can't help feeling some ( a little) sympathy for his wife. With a supportive husband like him, she doesn't need enemies.

Please tell me, what should he say considering his chequered past and not ruin her case or endanger his career?

Bluntly put: Nothing he says can help her. His private actions, wich we do not know are important. We simply have no idea if he drops her or if in reality he supports her all the way. Right now we are second guessing his intentions and feelings because of a blurb in the media.

 

[Mellow Velo]

I'm reading many attacks on Ricco on various forums, but I am at a loss to see what the guy could say, that wouldn't sound somewhat calllous and offensive, to some, or an idictment of his guilt, to others.

He has to make a statement. He cannot remain mute. All in all, much of what he says, to me, has a ring of honesty.

As for women's CC.
Having watched their WC race on Sunday, I would make the observation that the quality of the field, behind the indomintable Vos, Kupfernagel and Daphny Van den Brand was questionable, at best.

 

[DAOTEC]

Cobra bites girlfriend. Riccardo Ricco, a true snake.

Separated at birth.
The Cobra really is a snake.

If anyone should have sympathy for someone nailed for doping, you’d think it would be Riccardo Ricco — especially when that person is your girlfriend and the mother of your baby boy. You’d assume he’d be the first person to defend, comfort and protect her.

Sadly, that’s not the case. While the headlines swirl all over Italy, the disgraced climber is not at her side, helping her deal with the emotional trauma — to say nothing about a hand with the child care for a few day. This sounds like a new self-help book for women: Female cyclecross riders who love too much. I feel for the beautiful Vania with the long Italian nose.

Instead, Ricco is at his Flaminia-Bianchi training camp in Tuscany. His idea of support is to distance himself as much as possible. “What’s happened? I know as much as anyone else. I’ve been away from home for three months but now everyone will put two and two together and ask ‘Who gave it to her? I’ll be guilty again,” Ricco said.

What seems to concern him the most is not her pain but his image. “The thing that bothers me is what people will think. I didn’t need this but I can’t go and kill myself. I’m going to carry on training. It’s a strange situation but it’s nothing to do with me.

We’ll do the counter-analysis but in the meantime I’ve been splashed all over the newspapers,” said the rider coming off a 20 month suspension for the same drug.”

Top athletes tend to be self centered by nature, part of their competitive drive and focus. Still, it’s always a surprise when a star speaks with such cluelessness.

Ricco seems to have no capacity to look beyond himself or identify with anyone else’s suffering — even those he is closest to. He can pump out plenty of wattage on a climb but his empathy is zero. It’s unfortunate the UCI can’t add a six month suspension just for being a colossal jerk.

“People know I don’t like her racing, you can imagines what I think about her taking anything. Cycling isn’t for women, it hurts too much,” said the Cobra. Guilty or not, Vania Rossi deserves more from the man in her life.

Maybe that’s just a side effect of the drug. Loss of perspective and sympathy. Women often fall in love with men they think they can change. That’s their charmingly optimistic nature. Vania, pack your bags and leave the Cobra in the wicker basket of shame and delusion.

 

[tubularglue]

 

[Skip Madness]

On the"it's not for women" part. Consider it like this: If you know that you need to dope to compete, would you want a loved one be a competitor? I sure don't want my son to become a pro racer, does that make me a bigot?

He didn't say, "I don't like the though of a loved one competing in a sport rife with doping."

He said, "Cycling isn’t for women, it hurts too much."

That remark is pure sexism. He's saying that competing in a sport where you have to put up with pain is the exclusive domain of men. It's indefensible in my view.

As for women's CC.
Having watched their WC race on Sunday, I would make the observation that the quality of the field, behind the indomintable Vos, Kupfernagel and Daphny Van den Brand was questionable, at best.

And some of the rest of us would make the observation that there is plenty of high-class women's racing going on in various disciplines throughout the year.

It's irrelevant in any case. Regardless of what your opinion of the quality or depth of talent in women's racing is, I'd like to presume you still think that if girls and women like racing their bikes they should bloody well do it.

Ricc&#242]they shouldn't do it because it hurts too much[/b]. It's a shameful remark, the sort of which should have long since been consigned to history.

 

[Franklin]

If anyone should have sympathy for someone nailed for doping, you’d think it would be Riccardo Ricco — especially when that person is your girlfriend and the mother of your baby boy. You’d assume he’d be the first person to defend, comfort and protect her.

Another knight in shining armor with rose-colored spectacles.

Guess what, if he defends her he will ruin her case. Also, he is a pro cyclist, so yes he is on a boot-camp. Would it help her if he quits boot camp, tosses his year(and thus income, which feeds him and his loved ones)? The result would be that everyone would think they are both guilty and that he would be out of income. The mother of his child would really be helped with that This reaction is out of touch with reality and rather juvenile. Love and respect are one thing, supporting your family with money is another side of the relation coin.

There are plenty of reasons not to like Ricco, but this is quite frankly ***. It's clear that he does what his and her legal advisers advised: Stay away, you can not help her now.

He didn't say, "I don't like the though of a loved one competing in a sport rife with doping."

I'm not sure if you are serious here... what would that do for her case and his place in cycling???? The Ricco bashers simply don't accept anything less than him falling on his sword.

 

[Skip Madness]

I'm not sure if you are serious here... what would that do for her case and his place in cycling????

I'm not arguing about Rossi's case. You originally insinuated that his belief that cycling is not for women was based on compassion for not wanting to see a loved one in a sport rife with doping (which you compared to your feelings towards your son). My response was that his statement was nothing of the sort - it was outright sexism; saying that men should compete and women's shouldn't.

The Ricco bashers simply don't accept anything less than him falling on his sword.

Despite having already said that I've no fondness for Riccò, I think that having served his suspension he is entitled to be back in the sport. My problem is not with that, nor do I think he should claim responsibility for his girlfriend's positive despite the unsurprising suspicion that he is involved. But when he makes sexist remarks - which his words unequivocally were - I have no time for him.

 

[skidmark]

He said, "Cycling isn’t for women, it hurts too much."

Try friggin' childbirth, Riccardo.

 

[Big GMaC]

Try friggin' childbirth, Riccardo.

not to sound disrespectful in any way, but a lot of the international-level sportswomen I have talked after they have had children have remarked that they didn't really get what fuss was about because they said it was less painful than much of the training they have done... Maybe because they are international-sports people they don't feel the pain so much (all seem pretty mental), or are conditioned to it, but they were basically like, yeah, childbirth was easy compared to that 10 x 4min above threshold set I did twice a week for 4 years...

 

[goggalor]

Someone needs to get Riccò on twitter.

 

[Anonymous]

not to sound disrespectful in any way, but a lot of the international-level sportswomen I have talked after they have had children have remarked that they didn't really get what fuss was about because they said it was less painful than much of the training they have done... Maybe because they are international-sports people they don't feel the pain so much (all seem pretty mental), or are conditioned to it, but they were basically like, yeah, childbirth was easy compared to that 10 x 4min above threshold set I did twice a week for 4 years...

It really depends on the person. My wife is not nearly as athletic as these women but she had a relatively easy time. Both of my kids were "pushed out" in about 15 mins each time. On the other hand, I know of some women that were in labor for 24+ hours!

The other question you should ask these women is did they have the baby naturally or did they have an epideril?

Another thing I notice amongst my female friends is that even those that had long and hard childbirths after a while the short-term memory fades and they seem to forget how painful it really was. They speak of having another one and say that it really wasn't THAT bad... Although if you spoke to them the day of or after the birth they would have said it felt like pushing out a watermelon through a straw and that they don't want to ever do it again. LOL!

As for Ricco's girl... maybe if they want to clear her name they should test the baby for CERA. If it does indeed pass onto the baby then there'd be traces in the baby's system, unless she was clean and her sample somehow got contaminated. But they'd not likely let that happen to the baby.

 

[Ripper]

Another thing I notice amongst my female friends is that even those that had long and hard childbirths after a while the short-term memory fades and they seem to forget how painful it really was. They speak of having another one and say that it really wasn't THAT bad... Although if you spoke to them the day of or after the birth they would have said it felt like pushing out a watermelon through a straw and that they don't want to ever do it again. LOL!

Too true! Add to that the first few months of sleepless nights (I know, a much less intense, albeit more chronic form of pain), which some women (and the odd man) forget pretty quickly, while others remember it for a long, long time

 

[Mellow Velo]

Vania Rossi deserves more from the man in her life.

Vania Rossi has denied taking EPO CERA but she admitted she breast fed her six-month old son Alberto just before the anti-doping control on January 10.

I think some of the venom directed at the Cobra, for his words, should be directed at Miss Rossi, for her actions.

 

[Cloxxki]

Sick, sick story...

If it can be passed onto the baby, let's test him as well then.
Villingly passing an infant drugs not prescribed by its physician, that's bound to be a crime bigger than cheating in sports?

 

[craig1985]

The answer could be quite simple: she was prescribed CERA by the well known gynocologist Fuentes.

He was simply ensuring her health, as everyone knows that cycling without PED's is not good for you.

Yeah but at least she would of had a valid excuse for visiting Fuentes, then say Basso or Ullrich.