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18-Valve. (pithy)

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The next step after a Giro win is a TDF podium, IMO. Brailsford was low-key going for a TDF podium sweep ...and would have succeeded, too, without Froome's terrible crash.

If Carapaz delivers next year he'll be a Plan C at the 2021 TDF. Not so bad, at all.
 
Red Rick

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Hard to see Carapaz lead anything other than the Giro at Ineos. They have insane depth and if he disappoints he'll have to compete with the likes of Sivakov and Geoghegan Hart as well
 
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He will be going to the Giro to defend the title.

I would be surprised if they send him to the Tour.


Ineos will have a puzzle to lay with Thomas, Bernal, Carapaz and Froome.
 
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18-Valve. (pithy)

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If Carapaz wins the Giro for Ineos they pretty much have to make him a co-leader for the 2021 Tour. They can't keep sending him to the Giro if that's the case. Froome, Plan G and Plan B were joint Tour leaders this year. If one of them is past it in two years...
 
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Somehow I don't see Carapaz as a multiple GT winner, whether he rides for Ineos or not. Even harder at Ineos though...
I think the stars align for him this year, although he was more then deserved winner. At best I see him winning one more Giro or Vuelta, but not Tour.
 
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18-Valve. (pithy) said:
If Carapaz wins the Giro for Ineos they pretty much have to make him a co-leader for the 2021 Tour. They can't keep sending him to the Giro if that's the case. Froome, Plan G and Plan B were joint Tour leaders this year. If one of them is past it in two years...
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Big if.
 
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MatParker117 said:
They've won every jersey bar the points classification, every team classification and twelve stages.
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Yes, and since they focused on GC, Wiggins failed miserably in 2013, Porte in 2015, Landa in 2016, Landa and Thomas crashed out in 2017 before Froomey won in 2018. Then, of course, Bernal crashed out before the race this year which in turn was a blessing in disguise.
 
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Valv.Piti said:
Yes, and since they focused on GC, Wiggins failed miserably in 2013, Porte in 2015, Landa in 2016, Landa and Thomas crashed out in 2017 before Froomey won in 2018. Then, of course, Bernal crashed out before the race this year which in turn was a blessing in disguise.
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Uran made the podium, Konig made the top ten, back to back mountains jersey wins.
 
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Bump. More than one whole year without a comment in this thread. :eek:
Shows how underrated he is still. I love watching him climb. His Giro win was not a fluke. Unpopular opinion: he is Ineos' best GT rider.
 
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johnymax said:
Bump. More than one whole year without a comment in this thread. :eek:
Shows how underrated he is still. I love watching him climb. His Giro win was not a fluke. Unpopular opinion: he is Ineos' best GT rider.
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Giro win wasn't a fluke cause he won it. Winning another GT will be waaaay harder. He climbs very well, impressed by yesterday's stage but we have/had lots of great climbers who didn't come close to winning a GT. Ineos ruined his season by sending him to support Bernal.
 
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Very hard to judge rider levels from breakaways tbh. Stage 16 he obviously wasn't too hot cause he got destroyed by Kämna. Stage he did both climbs about some 5 minutes slower than the fastest of the peloton. Today he was climbing with Kwiatkowski.
johnymax said:
Bump. More than one whole year without a comment in this thread. :eek:
Shows how underrated he is still. I love watching him climb. His Giro win was not a fluke. Unpopular opinion: he is Ineos' best GT rider.
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I'd say it's Thomas.

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Giro win wasn't a fluke cause he won it. Winning another GT will be waaaay harder. He climbs very well, impressed by yesterday's stage but we have/had lots of great climbers who didn't come close to winning a GT. Ineos ruined his season by sending him to support Bernal.
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Pretty much. I wouldn't call it a fluke as in saying he'd never reach that level again. Just that he needed a lot of things to fall his way to win.
 
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still excellent 3rd week form without being at an ideal starting level. Good but not super i'd say ;)

he would've been good in the giro...
 
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Red Rick said:
Very hard to judge rider levels from breakaways tbh. Stage 16 he obviously wasn't too hot cause he got destroyed by Kämna. Stage he did both climbs about some 5 minutes slower than the fastest of the peloton. Today he was climbing with Kwiatkowski.
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I know but Kamna dropped him on the flat/downhill, and he was nowhere to be seen (he tried but didn't have it) the next two days while Carapaz got stronger every day.

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I'd say it's Thomas.
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Well I was probably exaggerating a bit there. But I need to see Thomas reach a super high level again in a GT before naming him Ineos'best bet. Hopefully he is good in the Giro.

I'll change my statement. Carapaz is as good of a climber as Bernal if not better.
 
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Best case scenario IMO is Carapaz to the Vuelta. Don't think Ineos have a better option than him. Bernal needs to heal up IMO.
 
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Ricky should lead the Empire TDF team next year no doubt. He showed it the last 3 days.

For me he is a lot better than Bernal. Better GT rider. Better climber. Better track record.
 
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