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Penalised for not being Italian enough. I wonder how long it'll take for somebody to knock Contador off his bike again.
The implication being that they were driving the pace with the purpose of putting time into Porte? How ludicrous! As has often mentioned here and elsewhere, the sprinter's teams that were on the front could care less about Porte and likely had no idea that he was off the back with a mechanical. The world doesn't stop spinning just because Sky is in distress. It is their mishandling of the situation that caused this to snowball as it has.PremierAndrew said:Peloton had no reason to continue riding. It was pretty obvious that the break was clear, and nobody starts their leadout for the minor placings with 5km left.Eagle said:I really dont think the peloton would have waited for anyone with 5k to goPremierAndrew said:The peloton would have stopped anyway, so the question doesn't ariserichwagmn said:Post this again in case anyone didn't see it.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFYwX2zWMAEp873.jpg:large
The rule is pretty clear. Minimum time penalty is 2 minutes for violation of this rule. Are people asking that the UCI look the other way or invent a penalty just for GT race leaders?
Yes, it totally sucks. Sky is to blame as much as anyone (where were his team mates? where was his team car?). Would Clark have stopped for Contador?
Cite the rule that was Violated by Tiralongo?HelloDolly said:Tiralonga helped AC win Vuleta 2012 but no 1 saw this as collusion
And all those asking would Clarke have stopeed fro Contador ...would Tiralonga have helped Fromme or Porte
Collusion that gives an unfair advantage goes on all the time ......but this was not unfair advantage
UCI are dicks
Actually more or less everybody saw it as collusion. The buying and trading of favours happens all the time in cycling. Preventing teams actually openly going about helping opposition like this is one of the few things the UCI can do to stop it. Tiralongo can make all kinds of feeble excuses as to why he worked that day (in the other thread I pointed out a couple of them - the break needed extra legs to guarantee staying away, he can beat Alberto in a sprint), but Clarke can make no excuse for giving Porte his wheel. If Tiralongo had given Contador his wheel that day and Contador rode away to victory, people would have been apoplectic if there WASN'T a penalty.HelloDolly said:Tiralonga helped AC win Vuleta 2012 but no 1 saw this as collusion
And all those asking would Clarke have stopeed fro Contador ...would Tiralonga have helped Fromme or Porte
Collusion that gives an unfair advantage goes on all the time ......but this was not unfair advantage
UCI are dicks
Its collusion that gives an unfair advantage to another team...richwagmn said:Cite the rule that was Violated by Tiralongo?HelloDolly said:Tiralonga helped AC win Vuleta 2012 but no 1 saw this as collusion
And all those asking would Clarke have stopeed fro Contador ...would Tiralonga have helped Fromme or Porte
Collusion that gives an unfair advantage goes on all the time ......but this was not unfair advantage
UCI are dicks
The rule is completely clear. Riders many NEVER receive mechanical assistance from another team. Ever. Minimum time penalty is 2 minutes.
Deal with it.
Actually, a break group working together on the road is not unfair advantage, it's elementary tactics. Buying and trading favours like that just happens in cycling. The rules are quite clear that mechanical assistance, on the other hand, IS an unfair advantage.HelloDolly said:Its collusion that gives an unfair advantage to another team...richwagmn said:Cite the rule that was Violated by Tiralongo?HelloDolly said:Tiralonga helped AC win Vuleta 2012 but no 1 saw this as collusion
And all those asking would Clarke have stopeed fro Contador ...would Tiralonga have helped Fromme or Porte
Collusion that gives an unfair advantage goes on all the time ......but this was not unfair advantage
UCI are dicks
The rule is completely clear. Riders many NEVER receive mechanical assistance from another team. Ever. Minimum time penalty is 2 minutes.
Deal with it.
This goes on all the time .....Clarke gave no unfair advantage to Porte
You deal with that !!!
Ummmm you obviously havent seen the photoSeriousSam said:Seems like Sky's shameful ineptitude screwed over Richie. All could have been avoided had there been a domestique nearby who can just give him his bike.
So we have accounted for one team mate stopping out of 8. Porte is Sky team leader trying to win the Giro d'Italia. Where is the rest of Sky to stop, give him a wheel and pace him back to the peloton? Even if half were riding for Viviani there should have been at least 3 there to support when the mechanical occurred.thekiwi said:Ummmm you obviously havent seen the photoSeriousSam said:Seems like Sky's shameful ineptitude screwed over Richie. All could have been avoided had there been a domestique nearby who can just give him his bike.
Nice post, thanks for cheering me upCarols said:Even though he is decidedly not one of my favorite riders, I do feel sorry for Richie. But he can still podium. He needs to recover mentally if he is down, and get back in the race fighting. He has an excellent ITT and if his climbing form is good he should beat everyone except Alberto and Aru on the mountains, maybe even stealing a bit of time back from them. Even a third, on the podium, would still be the largest achievement in his career and well worth battling for.
Heck there is still a long way to go anything can happen as we saw today!
Au contraire. Contador and Aru are nothing but happy. In the end only results count.Velolover2 said:I think even Aru and Contador is frustrated about this. Let's hope that Uran can do one of these monster-TT's so that it's still existing do watch.
Never give up hope.Cookster15 said:Nice post, thanks for cheering me upCarols said:Even though he is decidedly not one of my favorite riders, I do feel sorry for Richie. But he can still podium. He needs to recover mentally if he is down, and get back in the race fighting. He has an excellent ITT and if his climbing form is good he should beat everyone except Alberto and Aru on the mountains, maybe even stealing a bit of time back from them. Even a third, on the podium, would still be the largest achievement in his career and well worth battling for.
Heck there is still a long way to go anything can happen as we saw today!. I hope Richie can also be so positive. I think he can and we will still have some entertainment watching. If Porte can put up a good fight in the TT and mountains he will win a legion of new fans.
It could also be a motivator for Contador. If he wins by less than two minutes people will point to Porte's penalty.Ataraxus said:Au contraire. Contador and Aru are nothing but happy. In the end only results count.Velolover2 said:I think even Aru and Contador is frustrated about this. Let's hope that Uran can do one of these monster-TT's so that it's still existing do watch.
Even Contador fans that have big hopes for the double are nothing but happy. They might give any consolation and might say anything in this thread, but in the end, they're happy.
gets better when you see how upset skyfans are.Ryo Hazuki said:when you think todays stage couldn;t have been better you read online right now porte loses an extra 2 minutes. what a fantastic day!
Why people choose to judge others emotions based on how they would feel is beyond me. Maybe I learned not to do that because I'm so oldAtaraxus said:Au contraire. Contador and Aru are nothing but happy. In the end only results count.Velolover2 said:I think even Aru and Contador is frustrated about this. Let's hope that Uran can do one of these monster-TT's so that it's still existing do watch.
Even Contador fans that have big hopes for the double are nothing but happy. They might give any consolation and might say anything in this thread, but in the end, they're happy.
Yes but since Contador is going for the double that risks tiring himself more than necessary for the Tour. Better for AC to win with the least energy expended. This years Giro course isn't as hard as 2011 but so far it has been raced much harder and in 2011 AC basically soft peddled the rest of the Giro after he destroyed the field on Etna. And it is how the course is raced that really determines the energy expended and the recovery needed. In 2011 backing up for the Tour proved too much for AC and that will be in the forefront of his mind this time.richwagmn said:It could also be a motivator for Contador. If he wins by less than two minutes people will point to Porte's penalty.Ataraxus said:Au contraire. Contador and Aru are nothing but happy. In the end only results count.Velolover2 said:I think even Aru and Contador is frustrated about this. Let's hope that Uran can do one of these monster-TT's so that it's still existing do watch.
Even Contador fans that have big hopes for the double are nothing but happy. They might give any consolation and might say anything in this thread, but in the end, they're happy.
It could be. I wouldn't be surprised if a Contador with GC secured, attacked for more gap. But I wouldn't expect that.richwagmn said:It could also be a motivator for Contador. If he wins by less than two minutes people will point to Porte's penalty.Ataraxus said:Au contraire. Contador and Aru are nothing but happy. In the end only results count.Velolover2 said:I think even Aru and Contador is frustrated about this. Let's hope that Uran can do one of these monster-TT's so that it's still existing do watch.
Even Contador fans that have big hopes for the double are nothing but happy. They might give any consolation and might say anything in this thread, but in the end, they're happy.
Ataraxus said:Au contraire. Contador and Aru are nothing but happy. In the end only results count.Velolover2 said:I think even Aru and Contador is frustrated about this. Let's hope that Uran can do one of these monster-TT's so that it's still existing do watch.
Even Contador fans that have big hopes for the double are nothing but happy. They might give any consolation and might say anything in this thread, but in the end, they're happy.