Well that's Porte's giro done. At least we know what the guy who runs the giro twitter account thought of the incident https://twitter.com/giroditalia/status/600704412940685312
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richwagmn said:I think it's called the rules. Why is following the rules as written ridiculous?Publicus said:Reports going around that Porte was hit with the full 2' penalty. That's ridiculous....
This is the problem. The application of the rules, whether we like it or not, is correct. The problem is not that it's a stupid rule. I get why it's there (would Clarke have been similarly helpful had it been Contador or Aru? How many Italian pros would have helped out Porte and alienated the team of the biggest Italian stars?) but the way it's being applied is dumb.Miburo said:Dumb UCI, just ***.
Well they applied their rules but the rule is ***.
And you know, you don't always have to apply your rules to the max, discretion is the word.
If anything this could force them to throw more riders towards Viviani and the red jersey.PremierAndrew said:If Sky decided to commit a couple of guys to help Orica lead out Matthews tomorrow in return, then maybe the UCI did need to intervene. But for this? Really?
Libertine Seguros said:This is the problem. The application of the rules, whether we like it or not, is correct. The problem is not that it's a stupid rule. I get why it's there (would Clarke have been similarly helpful had it been Contador or Aru? How many Italian pros would have helped out Porte and alienated the team of the biggest Italian stars?) but the way it's being applied is dumb.Miburo said:Dumb UCI, just ***.
Well they applied their rules but the rule is ***.
And you know, you don't always have to apply your rules to the max, discretion is the word.
I'm a bit baffled as to why Porte couldn't have been given the bike of a teammate chasing up like usually happens in such circumstances and just rode the last few km that way (still due to an element of luck, but 47" loss on somebody else's bike is better than 2'47" on your own, obviously). In that case, he loses out still but because of his team's weakness, not because of his compatriot's generosity, which in a race with a TTT in it is no great shakes.
richwagmn said:Post this again in case anyone didn't see it.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFYwX2zWMAEp873.jpg:large
The rule is pretty clear. Minimum time penalty is 2 minutes for violation of this rule. Are people asking that the UCI look the other way or invent a penalty just for GT race leaders?
Yes, it totally sucks. Sky is to blame as much as anyone (where were his team mates? where was his team car?). Would Clark have stopped for Contador?
PremierAndrew said:richwagmn said:Post this again in case anyone didn't see it.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFYwX2zWMAEp873.jpg:large
The rule is pretty clear. Minimum time penalty is 2 minutes for violation of this rule. Are people asking that the UCI look the other way or invent a penalty just for GT race leaders?
Yes, it totally sucks. Sky is to blame as much as anyone (where were his team mates? where was his team car?). Would Clark have stopped for Contador?
The peloton would have stopped anyway, so the question doesn't arise
I really dont think the peloton would have waited for anyone with 5k to goPremierAndrew said:richwagmn said:Post this again in case anyone didn't see it.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFYwX2zWMAEp873.jpg:large
The rule is pretty clear. Minimum time penalty is 2 minutes for violation of this rule. Are people asking that the UCI look the other way or invent a penalty just for GT race leaders?
Yes, it totally sucks. Sky is to blame as much as anyone (where were his team mates? where was his team car?). Would Clark have stopped for Contador?
The peloton would have stopped anyway, so the question doesn't arise
richwagmn said:PremierAndrew said:richwagmn said:Post this again in case anyone didn't see it.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFYwX2zWMAEp873.jpg:large
The rule is pretty clear. Minimum time penalty is 2 minutes for violation of this rule. Are people asking that the UCI look the other way or invent a penalty just for GT race leaders?
Yes, it totally sucks. Sky is to blame as much as anyone (where were his team mates? where was his team car?). Would Clark have stopped for Contador?
The peloton would have stopped anyway, so the question doesn't arise
So would Clark have stopped for Aru? There, does that help?
Eagle said:I really dont think the peloton would have waited for anyone with 5k to goPremierAndrew said:richwagmn said:Post this again in case anyone didn't see it.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFYwX2zWMAEp873.jpg:large
The rule is pretty clear. Minimum time penalty is 2 minutes for violation of this rule. Are people asking that the UCI look the other way or invent a penalty just for GT race leaders?
Yes, it totally sucks. Sky is to blame as much as anyone (where were his team mates? where was his team car?). Would Clark have stopped for Contador?
The peloton would have stopped anyway, so the question doesn't arise