Question Should triathletes be allowed on bikes?

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Boeing

Boeing

Jul 17, 2009
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ElChingon said:
Speedo's? Tri-kini? We need more info :p
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Na it would be full kit. I'll require a shower after the swim as well.

Update: I have it on good authority this is not a catered event. No buffet = No Go I'm out
 
BroDeal

BroDeal

Mar 18, 2009
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Okay. Who was aware that Youtube videos might be required to figure out how to put a rear wheel on a road bike and even the videos might not be enough? In a bit of sexist thinking, I could be a bit understanding if it was a girl, but this is a dude. Someone's man card needs to be revoked.


Total self humiliation today. Rode my road bike to pick up my wife's car today in the AM. No problem, took the front and rear wheels off, and stashed it in the car.

Came home, and expected to put the rear wheel back on easy as pie, since I do it near-instantly on my Cervelo P2c. I was aware that there are vertical dropouts on the road bike vs track-style dropouts but I'd done it once years ago (haven't flatted the rear on the road bike in that long) and wasn't expecting too much trouble.

Well, I found out firsthand that I have no clue what I'm doing with reinstalling the rear wheel. It took me 30 minutes to put the darn thing back on and I STILL don't know what I did wrong! And yes, I watched several youtube videos that made it seem so friggin' easy. In their cases, the chain doesn't tangle or the RD is in a position that makes sense even to me, whereas on mine, I can't make heads or tails out of the RD position when the chain's off.

The one thing I did do right was to shift down to the smallest gears in front and back. But after that, total mess.

My problems:
- Once the wheel was off and chain was slack, the RD changes position, and I have no idea where to stick the wheel on the chain relative to that RD. I know you're supposed to 'pull back' the RD, but that made it as clear as mud for me. No videos have made this clear as well - they just magically line it up and pow - it goes in!

- Because the chain was slack it mysteriously developed a loop-de-loop in it. I still don't know how I got rid of it, but I'm certain it had to do with how far the RD swung once I removed the rear wheel. That loopdeloop KILLED me!

- I watched THIS video which looked great, but seriously my RD didn't hang as clearly as theirs did once the wheel was off. Mine looked all haywire (but once the wheel was back in , all was good. No derailleur hanger issues.) Add that loop de loop and I was toast.


If anyone has a foolproof method with clear diagrams or instructions, or a link to such, particularly focusing on exactly where to put the rear wheel/cassette on the chain and how to have the RD positioned to have it fall in like it does on the videos, would be appreciated.
 
Boeing

Boeing

Jul 17, 2009
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BroDeal said:
Okay. Who was aware that Youtube videos might be required to figure out how to put a rear wheel on a road bike and even the videos might not be enough? In a bit of sexist thinking, I could be a bit understanding if it was a girl, but this is a dude. Someone's man card needs to be revoked.


Total self humiliation today. Rode my road bike to pick up my wife's car today in the AM. No problem, took the front and rear wheels off, and stashed it in the car.

Came home, and expected to put the rear wheel back on easy as pie, since I do it near-instantly on my Cervelo P2c. I was aware that there are vertical dropouts on the road bike vs track-style dropouts but I'd done it once years ago (haven't flatted the rear on the road bike in that long) and wasn't expecting too much trouble.

Well, I found out firsthand that I have no clue what I'm doing with reinstalling the rear wheel. It took me 30 minutes to put the darn thing back on and I STILL don't know what I did wrong! And yes, I watched several youtube videos that made it seem so friggin' easy. In their cases, the chain doesn't tangle or the RD is in a position that makes sense even to me, whereas on mine, I can't make heads or tails out of the RD position when the chain's off.

The one thing I did do right was to shift down to the smallest gears in front and back. But after that, total mess.

My problems:
- Once the wheel was off and chain was slack, the RD changes position, and I have no idea where to stick the wheel on the chain relative to that RD. I know you're supposed to 'pull back' the RD, but that made it as clear as mud for me. No videos have made this clear as well - they just magically line it up and pow - it goes in!

- Because the chain was slack it mysteriously developed a loop-de-loop in it. I still don't know how I got rid of it, but I'm certain it had to do with how far the RD swung once I removed the rear wheel. That loopdeloop KILLED me!

- I watched THIS video which looked great, but seriously my RD didn't hang as clearly as theirs did once the wheel was off. Mine looked all haywire (but once the wheel was back in , all was good. No derailleur hanger issues.) Add that loop de loop and I was toast.


If anyone has a foolproof method with clear diagrams or instructions, or a link to such, particularly focusing on exactly where to put the rear wheel/cassette on the chain and how to have the RD positioned to have it fall in like it does on the videos, would be appreciated.
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Don't ask me bro. I had to google how to get my finger out of my XX1 rear mech.
 
42x16ss

42x16ss

May 23, 2009
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BroDeal said:
Okay. Who was aware that Youtube videos might be required to figure out how to put a rear wheel on a road bike and even the videos might not be enough? In a bit of sexist thinking, I could be a bit understanding if it was a girl, but this is a dude. Someone's man card needs to be revoked.


Total self humiliation today. Rode my road bike to pick up my wife's car today in the AM. No problem, took the front and rear wheels off, and stashed it in the car.

Came home, and expected to put the rear wheel back on easy as pie, since I do it near-instantly on my Cervelo P2c. I was aware that there are vertical dropouts on the road bike vs track-style dropouts but I'd done it once years ago (haven't flatted the rear on the road bike in that long) and wasn't expecting too much trouble.

Well, I found out firsthand that I have no clue what I'm doing with reinstalling the rear wheel. It took me 30 minutes to put the darn thing back on and I STILL don't know what I did wrong! And yes, I watched several youtube videos that made it seem so friggin' easy. In their cases, the chain doesn't tangle or the RD is in a position that makes sense even to me, whereas on mine, I can't make heads or tails out of the RD position when the chain's off.

The one thing I did do right was to shift down to the smallest gears in front and back. But after that, total mess.

My problems:
- Once the wheel was off and chain was slack, the RD changes position, and I have no idea where to stick the wheel on the chain relative to that RD. I know you're supposed to 'pull back' the RD, but that made it as clear as mud for me. No videos have made this clear as well - they just magically line it up and pow - it goes in!

- Because the chain was slack it mysteriously developed a loop-de-loop in it. I still don't know how I got rid of it, but I'm certain it had to do with how far the RD swung once I removed the rear wheel. That loopdeloop KILLED me!

- I watched THIS video which looked great, but seriously my RD didn't hang as clearly as theirs did once the wheel was off. Mine looked all haywire (but once the wheel was back in , all was good. No derailleur hanger issues.) Add that loop de loop and I was toast.


If anyone has a foolproof method with clear diagrams or instructions, or a link to such, particularly focusing on exactly where to put the rear wheel/cassette on the chain and how to have the RD positioned to have it fall in like it does on the videos, would be appreciated.
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S

Soloist

Jul 26, 2009
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Race Radio said:
You are assuming a lot. I used to race Tri's full time. Ran Div 1 Cross country and raced my bike in Europe. Took many sports related classes in college and I am that guy that talks to anyone on a bike.

Funny thing is I have several close friends who are current, and former, Pro Tri geeks. They are WAY harsher then I am on what they see. The attitude sickens them. Was riding with one friend who was top 3 at Kona twice and he was complaining about the geeks ......"They don't even drink!"

Now how about you, how many times have you caused a crash in a group ride because you were down on your TT bars?
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:confused:Right, some of my best friends are tri geeks... No need to go on a bender to justify your comments here. I got it. "used to be one so I can trash them." When you're being oh so charitable to fellow cyclists by talking to them, are you also quick to admit that you love trashing triathletes on public forums, and that you and your pro friends find the behavior of many of them sickening? When you ride up on a guy on his aero bars is that how you segue into conversation? "Hey, dude, I find you sickening"

How many times have I caused a crash on TT bars? Well now you're assuming a lot. Zero. And no, I don't do triathlons. I can't swim. Actually I can float and do a lame side stroke. And the soloist tag is not a reference to triathlon but to one of my road bikes. Now quick, get over to the Cervelo bashing thread before you miss out on something juicy there.

I know it's all just a hoot. But really, I wish you all would do something that had some economic worth. C'mon help stimulate the economy. Go buy something. Fix some loose railroad tracks. Spend $2 at the local car wash, and get a gleaming car in return. Honestly if you read back the transcript of this thread to your kids, what would that be like? "Daddy is that what you do in your spare time?" "Why, yes, Susie. Daddy has really enjoyed spending the equivalent of two full work weeks contributing to this worthless thread, disparaging people he used to be like, but now despises, but has friends who are pros who also despise the people who support their sport."

Dude, you are way too complicated. I don't even think you understand why you can't help keeping this conversation going. Where's Freud when you need him? Maybe you should try therapy? Maybe there's a triathlon bashing support group. That would actually stimulate the economy. You and your confused Kona pros would be happy; your therapist would be paid; and you wouldn't be taking up bandwidth with white noise. Do that.
 
BroDeal

BroDeal

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Soloist said:
:confused:Right, some of my best friends are tri geeks... No need to go on a bender to justify your comments here. I got it. "used to be one so I can trash them." When you're being oh so charitable to fellow cyclists by talking to them, are you also quick to admit that you love trashing triathletes on public forums, and that you and your pro friends find the behavior of many of them sickening? When you ride up on a guy on his aero bars is that how you segue into conversation? "Hey, dude, I find you sickening"

How many times have I caused a crash on TT bars? Well now you're assuming a lot. Zero. And no, I don't do triathlons. I can't swim. Actually I can float and do a lame side stroke. And the soloist tag is not a reference to triathlon but to one of my road bikes. Now quick, get over to the Cervelo bashing thread before you miss out on something juicy there.

I know it's all just a hoot. But really, I wish you all would do something that had some economic worth. C'mon help stimulate the economy. Go buy something. Fix some loose railroad tracks. Spend $2 at the local car wash, and get a gleaming car in return. Honestly if you read back the transcript of this thread to your kids, what would that be like? "Daddy is that what you do in your spare time?" "Why, yes, Susie. Daddy has really enjoyed spending the equivalent of two full work weeks contributing to this worthless thread, disparaging people he used to be like, but now despises, but has friends who are pros who also despise the people who support their sport."

Dude, you are way too complicated. I don't even think you understand why you can't help keeping this conversation going. Where's Freud when you need him? Maybe you should try therapy? Maybe there's a triathlon bashing support group. That would actually stimulate the economy. You and your confused Kona pros would be happy; your therapist would be paid; and you wouldn't be taking up bandwidth with white noise. Do that.
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A lot of pent up anger there. The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

It looks like another one who has a hard time putting a rear wheel between a pair of dropouts.
 
sittingbison

sittingbison

Jul 5, 2012
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OK gentle(wo)men,
time to remind you to attack the message and not shoot the messenger. I could easily have deleted a range of posts starting 30 upthread, but left most there for continuity of discussion. However the personal attacks are stopping right now.

cheers
bison
 
hiero2

hiero2

Jul 10, 2010
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BroDeal said:
Okay. Who was aware that Youtube videos might be required to figure out how to put a rear wheel on a road bike and even the videos might not be enough? . . .
If anyone has a foolproof method with clear diagrams or instructions, or a link to such, particularly focusing on exactly where to put the rear wheel/cassette on the chain and how to have the RD positioned to have it fall in like it does on the videos, would be appreciated.
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Ah - I see - the italics is the youtube dialog, not yours Bro. For a few minutes, I thought you were posting your own experience. Silly me.

Please use links, and don't post the whole convo! You know the proper routines.
 
Afrank

Afrank

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BroDeal said:
Okay. Who was aware that Youtube videos might be required to figure out how to put a rear wheel on a road bike and even the videos might not be enough? In a bit of sexist thinking, I could be a bit understanding if it was a girl, but this is a dude. Someone's man card needs to be revoked.


Total self humiliation today. Rode my road bike to pick up my wife's car today in the AM. No problem, took the front and rear wheels off, and stashed it in the car.

Came home, and expected to put the rear wheel back on easy as pie, since I do it near-instantly on my Cervelo P2c. I was aware that there are vertical dropouts on the road bike vs track-style dropouts but I'd done it once years ago (haven't flatted the rear on the road bike in that long) and wasn't expecting too much trouble.

Well, I found out firsthand that I have no clue what I'm doing with reinstalling the rear wheel. It took me 30 minutes to put the darn thing back on and I STILL don't know what I did wrong! And yes, I watched several youtube videos that made it seem so friggin' easy. In their cases, the chain doesn't tangle or the RD is in a position that makes sense even to me, whereas on mine, I can't make heads or tails out of the RD position when the chain's off.

The one thing I did do right was to shift down to the smallest gears in front and back. But after that, total mess.

My problems:
- Once the wheel was off and chain was slack, the RD changes position, and I have no idea where to stick the wheel on the chain relative to that RD. I know you're supposed to 'pull back' the RD, but that made it as clear as mud for me. No videos have made this clear as well - they just magically line it up and pow - it goes in!

- Because the chain was slack it mysteriously developed a loop-de-loop in it. I still don't know how I got rid of it, but I'm certain it had to do with how far the RD swung once I removed the rear wheel. That loopdeloop KILLED me!

- I watched THIS video which looked great, but seriously my RD didn't hang as clearly as theirs did once the wheel was off. Mine looked all haywire (but once the wheel was back in , all was good. No derailleur hanger issues.) Add that loop de loop and I was toast.


If anyone has a foolproof method with clear diagrams or instructions, or a link to such, particularly focusing on exactly where to put the rear wheel/cassette on the chain and how to have the RD positioned to have it fall in like it does on the videos, would be appreciated.
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I've had to show some people how to do this (multiple times), for the life of me I just do not understand why some people have so much difficulty with this. It's probably one of the simplest things to do on a bike. :rolleyes:
 
BroDeal

BroDeal

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This might be an ST crash record. Two posts by the same person using very technical language:

I ended up going to the emergency room roughly 2 seconds after first attempting to ride my triathlon bike.
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I didn't crash.

I simply fell over while trying to buckle my feet in and my ankle somehow got caught on that big cirlce thing with the chain around it (name is slipping my mind at the moment).
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Mr.DNA

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Them circle things wouldn't be so painful if they didn't cover the edges with them pointy things.
 
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