Sky/Froome Talk Only (No Way Sky Are Cleans?)

[the sceptic]

After the maligned Lance Armstrong era it would also be the first time a clean rider has successfully defended the maillot jaune for nearly 20 years.

“That’s quite a big thing for me,” he says. “The last rider to do it without any question marks over them was Miguel Indurain in 1995. And there’s been quite a stigma in recent years obviously so to do that as a clean rider is obviously an added motivation.”

lol...........

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

One thing's for certain: Froome's personality has turned former Froome defenders into Froome opponents, and made me actually feel sorry for Wigans...I mean, when you out-d0uche Wigans, you've really accomplished something, and Mr. Cound, you have certainly won the yellow jersey for D0uchebagginess.

I mean, think about it, me, the hog, JimmyFingers, and BroDeal all agree...you know stuff is ****ed-up if we're all towing the same line.

Yep. Even the Cound-Dawg's d-baggery seems chemically-enhanced.

 

[JimmyFingers]

One thing's for certain: Froome's personality has turned former Froome defenders into Froome opponents, and made me actually feel sorry for Wigans...I mean, when you out-d0uche Wigans, you've really accomplished something, and Mr. Cound, you have certainly won the yellow jersey for D0uchebagginess.

I mean, think about it, me, the hog, JimmyFingers, and BroDeal all agree...you know stuff is ****ed-up if we're all towing the same line.

It's weird isn't it: his personality is coming across as ugly as his riding style.

 

[thehog]

It's weird isn't it: his personality is coming across as ugly as his riding style.

Oh crap. Does this mean I need to start defending Froome?

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Oh crap. Does this mean I need to start defending Froome?

Only when RR starts hating him, i think.

 

[thehog]

Only when RR starts hating him, i think.

Yeah, I was first to hate him though. Even when there was a tailwind I thought Froome was a fraud.

 

[Hawkwood]

Oh crap. Does this mean I need to start defending Froome?

Please do, this will completely wrong-foot people, you'll have loads of fun

 

[BroDeal]

lol...........

After the maligned Lance Armstrong era it would also be the first time a clean rider has successfully defended the maillot jaune for nearly 20 years.

“That’s quite a big thing for me,” he says. “The last rider to do it without any question marks over them was Miguel Indurain in 1995. And there’s been quite a stigma in recent years obviously so to do that as a clean rider is obviously an added motivation.”

Now you are just making sh!t up.

Up to now I have been amused at Froome's defense mechanism, where he plays the part of an African hillbilly who barely knows anything about cycling despite being a pro for the better part of a decade. But I have to consider the distinct possibility that Froome is actually the stupidest man in cycling, a man who makes Phil Liggett grasp of the sport look like Sean Kelly's. Still it is hard to reconcile cycling's Jethro Bodine's alleged naivete with the credit he takes for transforming himself by continually disregarding the research and analysis of Sky's marginal gains dream team. This seems to be a new type of split personality, a split mentality, not a Dr Jekyll and Mr. Hyde but more of a Dr. Jekyll and Paris Hilton.

 

[the sceptic]

I wonder if Froome is stupid enough to actually believe himself to be clean.

 

[Fzotrlool]

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...ns-team-sky-chris-froome-tour-de-france-2014#

Interesting article from a critical angle.

I need to reevaluate my attitude about British sports journalists after this. Good to see that some newspapers provide space for skeptics.

 

[Ventoux Boar]

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...ns-team-sky-chris-froome-tour-de-france-2014#

Interesting article from a critical angle.

I need to reevaluate my attitude about British sports journalists after this. Good to see that some newspapers provide space for skeptics.

There's been nothing to write about up to now. Murdoch is detested. A former editor and close confidant of the PM is going to jail. The BBC relished "Former Team Sky rider Mick Rogers" testing positive.

If there's a story, they'll write it.

 

[The Hitch]

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...ns-team-sky-chris-froome-tour-de-france-2014#

Interesting article from a critical angle.

I need to reevaluate my attitude about British sports journalists after this. Good to see that some newspapers provide space for skeptics.

Nowhere is there the slightest suggestion they dope. It says they maybe did wrong by taking a TUE which was legal. Every single fanboy is going to respond to that with - but it was legal, so it wasn't doping, so they are clean.

I don't care if people think they legally took a TUE once in 4 years. Its the lies about being a clean science team that need to be exposed.

And btw the author of the article is the same guy who famously said 2 years ago that 2 Brits coming 1-2 in the Tour is the long awaited proof that cycling is now definately clean.

 

[Fzotrlool]

Alright Hitch, but baby steps are still steps.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Oh crap. Does this mean I need to start defending Froome?

Nah, feel the love man and embrace it. Lets all bask in the glow of our hater fire.

 

[thehog]

Nah, feel the love man and embrace it. Lets all bask in the glow of our hater fire.

Truth be told you're being silly. People here don't align themselves with the viewpoints of others.

They express independent views on a wide variation of topics. It's really only yourself who tries to pigeon hole specific posters into specific buckets. That's what gets you so enraged all the time.

Perhaps drop the Bushism of "you're either with us or against us" mentality and let people explore the topics and discuss them. Often some wish to understand the details first before they make up their minds or have an opinion.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Truth be told you're being silly. People here don't align themselves with the viewpoints of others.

They express independent views on a wide variation of topics. It's really only yourself who tries to pigeon hole specific posters into specific buckets. That's what gets you so enraged all the time.

Perhaps drop the Bushism of "you're either with us or against us" mentality and let people explore the topics and discuss them. Often some wish to understand the details first before they make up their minds or have an opinion.

You really are a moron. Of course I was being silly. It was only like the most obvious thing that happened in the world today.

Good post Chewie.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Come on Bro, lets all just hug it out.

Good post Chewie.

 

[thehog]

You really are a moron. Of course I was being silly. It was only like the most obvious thing that happened in the world today.

Good post Chewie.

You must understand its hard for me to tell when you're just acting stupid or being stupid

 

[ChewbaccaD]

You must understand its hard for me to tell when you're just acting stupid or being stupid

Don't blame me. Talk to your parents about that dude. Genetically inferior intelligence is passed in the DNA. Maybe they should have used contraception?

Good post Chewie.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

You must understand its hard for me to tell when you're just acting stupid or being stupid

Hey, next time you whine to the mods, try not being a hypocrite, mmmkay?

Good post Chewie.

 

[Netserk]

Hey, next time you whine to the mods, try not being a hypocrite, mmmkay?

Good post Chewie.

Where did he (hypocritically) whine (as hard as you did in the WC thread)?

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Now we are talking.
Headline in Dailymail:

Can Chris Froome save Le Tour? Defending champion must beat drug cheat Alberto Contador for cycling's credibility

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ot...rance-cyclings-credibility.html#ixzz36WsNFrEk

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Where did he (hypocritically) whine (as hard as you did in the WC thread)?

I have no idea what you're talking about, but I'm sure thehog appreciates you carrying his water. What's up Bottle?

And he whined to the mods, and they deleted my post. It's all there in black and white for all of the mods to see...wait, you aren't a mod anymore...one can scarcely imagine why...

 

[thehog]

Now we are talking.
Headline in Dailymail:



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ot...rance-cyclings-credibility.html#ixzz36WsNFrEk

That's terrible! But I'm sure it will be lapped up.

Can the Dawg save cycling! my god.

 

[Sciocco]

Now we are talking.
Headline in Dailymail:



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ot...rance-cyclings-credibility.html#ixzz36WsNFrEk

Like any athlete who has served his punishment, Contador is perfectly entitled to compete. But it remains an unpalatable aspect of the race; Froome, the rider the sport hopes is the embodiment of a brighter, cleaner future, against Contador, the doper and former team-mate of Lance Armstrong. If Contador was to win a third Tour it would feel as uncomfortable as seeing Alexander Vinokourov winning the Olympic road race in London.

Thanks for the link. Makes me consider watching British streams this Tour so I can hear the commentators cry.

Oh, I missed some.

‘I’ve been able to win the Tour de France, a huge achievement, but it’s put me right in the eye of the storm. I get the feeling, “Hold on, I’m trying to speak out for clean cycling. I’ve always raced clean; I’m always going to race clean; I’ll f**king hang up my bike the day I even think about doping”. And here I am being absolutely ripped apart.’

He was every bit as convincing in a recent interview with the Daily Mail, and the truth is it is harder to beat the testers these days. Because of blood passports it is a cleaner sport, and only this week another Tour rider was revealed as having tested positive. Daryl Impey, a South African, is a former team-mate of Froome.

‘I do think it’s a good thing that we talk about it, that we put all of our cards on the table and we tell people how it is now,’ said Froome. ‘It is a shame that with cycling’s past we find ourselves in this situation now. But the only way we’re going to move on from it is to accept what has happened. Get it all out there. And then move on.’

If cycling wants to move on quickly it could certainly do with Froome beating Contador to Paris.

Sarcastic article?