Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Krzysztof_O]

5.

If he rides more conservatively and thinks about the Tour. In Catalunya mode it could be way more.

 

[Vudy]

The racing instinct kicks in whenever he feels good.

 

[Netserk]

If he rides more conservatively and thinks about the Tour. In Catalunya mode it could be way more.

It will always be up to UAE on their own to catch the break for all those stages, more or less. If the Gee-ro returns, not many will be won from the peloton.

 

[pastronef]

It will always be up to UAE on their own to catch the break for all those stages, more or less. If the Gee-ro returns, not many will be won from the peloton.

I hope Gee goes wild as in 2023 and no team will help UAE to chase (well, sauf the Ineos train, they are too used to lead the race, for no reason too)

 

[repre]

Probably a couple of pages late, but how this thread got to Pogi vs Indurain comparison and Remco's thread to Remco vs Ivan Sosa is beyond me))

 

[hayneplane]

If you looked at each stage in isolation then he could probably win 14 stages but I will be more realistic and say 3-6 with 4 as my answer.

 

[Salvarani]

Probably a couple of pages late, but how this thread got to Pogi vs Indurain comparison and Remco's thread to Remco vs Ivan Sosa is beyond me))

To me those comparisons make perfect sense.

 

[Brullnux]

If he rides more conservatively and thinks about the Tour. In Catalunya mode it could be way more.

Yeah but nobody would ever ride a three week tour in Catalunya mode, not least because your team can't sustain that rhythm over that time (and, to be frank, neither can Pogacar). He'll win all the stages he aims to win (barring bad UAE break control), but I can't imagine that'll be more than six at most. Five is realistic.

 

[velaso montador]

Curious of how Pogacar would so in Robauix if he ented this week. Noone is stronger than him in the peleton and close in endurance so it makes me wonder how he would fare even tho i too imagine him beeing to light etc....

Just wonder how it would be.

 

[Cookster15]

Curious of how Pogacar would so in Robauix if he ented this week. Noone is stronger than him in the peleton and close in endurance so it makes me wonder how he would fare even tho i too imagine him beeing to light etc....

Just wonder how it would be.

Yes I think he is too light. If Pogacar is serious about his grand tour prospects then he should stay right away from Roubaix. Its a lottery. Maybe he could try when his career is in its twilight and he isn't a genuine grand tour contender any more.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Curious of how Pogacar would so in Robauix if he ented this week. Noone is stronger than him in the peleton and close in endurance so it makes me wonder how he would fare even tho i too imagine him beeing to light etc....

Just wonder how it would be.

Apparently Teddy is eating dozens of cutlets as we speak to achieve proper mass for Hell of the North. MVP will be shocked at the start of Sunday!

 

[scribers]

Rip @salvaini! We hardly knew ye!

 

[Barkintheeye]

Curious of how Pogacar would so in Robauix if he ented this week. Noone is stronger than him in the peleton and close in endurance so it makes me wonder how he would fare even tho i too imagine him beeing to light etc....

Just wonder how it would be.

Paris-Roubaix is THE race for absolute power over power per kg. Surely TP has both power and skill but he’s unlikely to be able drop his severest competitors before the velodrome. The outcome is likely to be the same as at MSR ie TP losing out in the sprint.

 

[velaso montador]

Yes I think he is too light. If Pogacar is serious about his grand tour prospects then he should stay right away from Roubaix. Its a lottery. Maybe he could try when his career is in its twilight and he isn't a genuine grand tour contender any more.

I agree but it is pogacar i mean i think everyone would be really curious to see even with this weight if anything else. I do think he is to light to do it now tho.

Dont think he would win im not saying that, all im saying i think he would give the entire start field more suspense if he was starting even there you just dont know.

Hes to strong for everyone else everywhere else so wouldnt put it past him even now with current weight. Theori tells us hes way to light but many theoritical things he disproves already all im saying.

Like in flandern woulda been epic to watch nonetheless if not anything else.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Rip @salvaini! We hardly knew ye!

The GOAT!

 

[mou]

one of the rare good people here @Salvarani, you will be back in front of Liege just like Pog, in top form to annoy the haters a little more

 

[mou]

the current situation here on the forum is best described by the statement "don't throw your pearls before swine", there will be better times for all true fans Pog, when freedom of speech will be appreciated, I have a serious warning before shutting down from the administrator of this forum, so I'm going to take a break calmed down before the Giro madness that is inevitably coming

 

[Mina.S]

I was listening to Eurosport’s new YouTube/podcast situation with Rob Hatch and I did remember something that people had mentioned before- during the tour pog and the team were fighting a lot with each other on the radio which might be why they are trying for a different team structure this year.

I fail to believe Adam Blythe who thinks pog can’t win the tour and will be going just to win stages. He wouldn’t be going if he didn’t think he could win.

 

[mou]

Pog does not have a team leader - loyal employees relationship, but he tries to be friends with everyone and people are generally jealous ***, so there is Vine, Ayuso, Mcnulty who are jealous of Pog and who whenever they are called to be Pog's assistants in the last 2 years suddenly fell ill either before the race or during the race. Pog feels it all and the people around him know it. Why do you think it's always the same people and Slovenians following Pog at the races, mechanic Kavcnik, DS Hauptman, Domen Novak almost every race this year, and masseur Joseba, whom he trusts as a brother from the Vuelta 2019. The UAE is not a team, but a group of wonabee stars to whom Pog is holy because they will forever be in his shadow, this is verified information for you, think about it with your brain and you will see that a lot of things agree. Last year, the whole team were at altitude together in Sierra before the Giro, this year only Majka and Pog, Ayuso on the start list of Giro Emilia, gave up halfway through the race, Ayuso on the start list for Strade Bianche, gave up 2 days before the race, Vine was finally invited to race with Pog, one sick on the first day and in 7-8 days he will be 2nd at the TT Itzulie with Roglic, Remco, Ayuso.....in the race, Mcnulty wants stages on the Grand Tour and avoids Pogacar from the Tour 2022 and now suddenly ill for San Remo and also seen in shopping and at training the next day, who is making fun of whom here, the question is rhetorical, of course😉

 

[RedheadDane]

I was listening to Eurosport’s new YouTube/podcast situation with Rob Hatch and I did remember something that people had mentioned before- during the tour pog and the team were fighting a lot with each other on the radio which might be why they are trying for a different team structure this year.

I just remember them coming up with really wacky messages.
Crocodiles and tigers, anyone?

 

[Low is rhe new high]

Pog does not have a team leader - loyal employees relationship, but he tries to be friends with everyone and people are generally jealous ***, so there is Vine, Ayuso, Mcnulty who are jealous of Pog and who whenever they are called to be Pog's assistants in the last 2 years suddenly fell ill either before the race or during the race. Pog feels it all and the people around him know it. Why do you think it's always the same people and Slovenians following Pog at the races, mechanic Kavcnik, DS Hauptman, Domen Novak almost every race this year, and masseur Joseba, whom he trusts as a brother from the Vuelta 2019. The UAE is not a team, but a group of wonabee stars to whom Pog is holy because they will forever be in his shadow, this is verified information for you, think about it with your brain and you will see that a lot of things agree. Last year, the whole team were at altitude together in Sierra before the Giro, this year only Majka and Pog, Ayuso on the start list of Giro Emilia, gave up halfway through the race, Ayuso on the start list for Strade Bianche, gave up 2 days before the race, Vine was finally invited to race with Pog, one sick on the first day and in 7-8 days he will be 2nd at the TT Itzulie with Roglic, Remco, Ayuso.....in the race, Mcnulty wants stages on the Grand Tour and avoids Pogacar from the Tour 2022 and now suddenly ill for San Remo and also seen in shopping and at training the next day, who is making fun of whom here, the question is rhetorical, of course😉

Hmm interesting that Pog seems unable to inspire loyalty or that the team has strong enough leadership to enforce it. Maybe that is the reason why he is not as successful in the tours. He should sign with Ineos or concentrate on one day and one week races until he has a team around him that wants/needs him to win,

 

[scribers]

Pog does not have a team leader - loyal employees relationship, but he tries to be friends with everyone and people are generally jealous ***, so there is Vine, Ayuso, Mcnulty who are jealous of Pog and who whenever they are called to be Pog's assistants in the last 2 years suddenly fell ill either before the race or during the race. Pog feels it all and the people around him know it. Why do you think it's always the same people and Slovenians following Pog at the races, mechanic Kavcnik, DS Hauptman, Domen Novak almost every race this year, and masseur Joseba, whom he trusts as a brother from the Vuelta 2019. The UAE is not a team, but a group of wonabee stars to whom Pog is holy because they will forever be in his shadow, this is verified information for you, think about it with your brain and you will see that a lot of things agree. Last year, the whole team were at altitude together in Sierra before the Giro, this year only Majka and Pog, Ayuso on the start list of Giro Emilia, gave up halfway through the race, Ayuso on the start list for Strade Bianche, gave up 2 days before the race, Vine was finally invited to race with Pog, one sick on the first day and in 7-8 days he will be 2nd at the TT Itzulie with Roglic, Remco, Ayuso.....in the race, Mcnulty wants stages on the Grand Tour and avoids Pogacar from the Tour 2022 and now suddenly ill for San Remo and also seen in shopping and at training the next day, who is making fun of whom here, the question is rhetorical, of course😉

UAE needs a strong manager. Bruyneel could fix that ***

 

[mou]

Jealousy is a serious disease, Pog is actually a very introverted person and it takes him a long time to gain trust in someone and open up to him, what you see with the fans before and after the race is all a mask, he talks a little when he meets people, only after he spends a lot of time with someone does he become more sociable, like Majka, Wellens, Mathews, Mohoric, Novak, Formolo. If you haven't noticed, Hauptman DS is almost always at his races, Pog always wants the same trusted people with him, from mechanics, masseurs . Just read Sivakov's statement from the camp in December when he was asked what Pogacar was like. The answer was very quiet and calm, down-to-earth, that he behaves like an ordinary junior cyclist who has just joined the team, and these jealous and spiteful people use that to their advantage, his kindness, calmness. Pog is a leader in his own right in terms of results, but Pog is not, for example, extroverted like Mourinho, to line everything up and put everything in its place, but the complete opposite. Majka is his most important trusted person and just follow who is with Ayuso at the races and who with Pog, does Ayuso have better helpers for the race in Itzulia or Pog for Catalonia, *** him, Pog is Slovenian and Ayuso is Spanish, but to hell with him because he will never have the talent of Pog and will always remain in his shadow and that's why Ayuso can't at night to sleep because he is mischievous, jealous and gathers a team against Pogacar around him, Vine, Mcnulty, Sivakov and recently Bjerg with Ayuso are much better than with Pog because Bjerg has also turned the tables slightly and wants space for himself and thinks that he working for Pog is holding him back, you may think that this is nonsense, but be sure of what is written, just follow in the future... these are people who have nothing against Pog and with whom he is good and who are important helpers: Majka, Almeida, Novak ,Groschartner,R.Oliveira,Wellens,Christien,everything else is very questionable,very...

 

[Peyroteo94]

UAE needs a strong manager. Bruyneel could fix that ***

Yeah, we all saw how he fixed 2009 Astana. They cooperated very well in the Tour! We all remember the "Love you Lance" before attacking in Verbier!

 

[scribers]

Yeah, we all saw how he fixed 2009 Astana. They cooperated very well in the Tour! We all remember the "Love you Lance" before attacking in Verbier!

Jealousy is a serious disease, Pog is actually a very introverted person and it takes him a long time to gain trust in someone and open up to him, what you see with the fans before and after the race is all a mask, he talks a little when he meets people, only after he spends a lot of time with someone does he become more sociable, like Majka, Wellens, Mathews, Mohoric, Novak, Formolo. If you haven't noticed, Hauptman DS is almost always at his races, Pog always wants the same trusted people with him, from mechanics, masseurs . Just read Sivakov's statement from the camp in December when he was asked what Pogacar was like. The answer was very quiet and calm, down-to-earth, that he behaves like an ordinary junior cyclist who has just joined the team, and these jealous and spiteful people use that to their advantage, his kindness, calmness. Pog is a leader in his own right in terms of results, but Pog is not, for example, extroverted like Mourinho, to line everything up and put everything in its place, but the complete opposite. Majka is his most important trusted person and just follow who is with Ayuso at the races and who with Pog, does Ayuso have better helpers for the race in Itzulia or Pog for Catalonia, *** him, Pog is Slovenian and Ayuso is Spanish, but to hell with him because he will never have the talent of Pog and will always remain in his shadow and that's why Ayuso can't at night to sleep because he is mischievous, jealous and gathers a team against Pogacar around him, Vine, Mcnulty, Sivakov and recently Bjerg with Ayuso are much better than with Pog because Bjerg has also turned the tables slightly and wants space for himself and thinks that he working for Pog is holding him back, you may think that this is nonsense, but be sure of what is written, just follow in the future... these are people who have nothing against Pog and with whom he is good and who are important helpers: Majka, Almeida, Novak ,Groschartner,R.Oliveira,Wellens,Christien,everything else is very questionable,very...

I completely understand why cyclists have ambitions. At some point they have to get results with these ambitions. There are a lot of races on the calendar. Go win some of them against the best of the professional peloton. and then a manager can have a real discussion. Otherwise “hit the bricks!”