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Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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I think double-digit GT wins is more achievable than 64 stages.

Cav had a run of 6-9-8-7-6-7 GT stage wins yearly, but peak year (or three) is not what makes or breaks such a record - it's a high tally season after season without exception. Pogi had only 2 last year, he can't afford similar years with the pace needed for 64 stage wins.
It strongly depends on how long Pogacars peak will be. If he starts to become worse in his early 30s he would have to keep up an insane pace. But it's possible for cyclists to be at their best until their late 30s so I don't think we can rule out that possibility. In lots of sports right now we see a lot of records fall solely due to atheletes longevity having improved a lot.
 
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It can't if he doesn't try. All records can be broken. There are other reasons why it has not happened yet. Mainly because there was never a schedule that made sense for other great riders to try it.
It would be unbelievable and unheard of.

I dont think it would be wise and that it would potentially cause more damage. I dont think it is realistic or will/could ever happen.

It is more likely that you could do Tour-Vuelta, then the Giro the following year.
 
It would be unbelievable and unheard of.

I dont think it would be wise and that it would potentially cause more damage. I dont think it is realistic or will/could ever happen.

It is more likely that you could do Tour-Vuelta, then the Giro the following year.
I agree. It could be damaging physically. I am not sure what is going on with Kuss, but he doesn't look great so far this year and he did race 3 GT's last season.
 
It strongly depends on how long Pogacars peak will be. If he starts to become worse in his early 30s he would have to keep up an insane pace. But it's possible for cyclists to be at their best until their late 30s so I don't think we can rule out that possibility. In lots of sports right now we see a lot of records fall solely due to atheletes longevity having improved a lot.
Lot of pundits have said with how focused a pro has to be now they expect people to burn out, but I think theyre full of ***

Main determinant is as simple as the question if Pog is gonna do 2GTs every year

That said, long term projections in cycling seem way more volatile than in other sports
 
Lot of pundits have said with how focused a pro has to be now they expect people to burn out, but I think theyre full of ***

Main determinant is as simple as the question if Pog is gonna do 2GTs every year

That said, long term projections in cycling seem way more volatile than in other sports
I agree and I don't think we are anywhere close to making a good prediction. Just noticed today that looking at the numbers, the record is at least on the table.
 
Lot of pundits have said with how focused a pro has to be now they expect people to burn out, but I think theyre full of ***

Main determinant is as simple as the question if Pog is gonna do 2GTs every year

That said, long term projections in cycling seem way more volatile than in other sports
Next year, Tadej would do the Tour Vuelta double. He wants the Vuelta at his palmares, of course. But after that, he might only race the Tour.
That's what I believe.
 
I was wrong. He attacked with 6 to go, not 5.

That was the most impressive big chainring climbing I have ever seen. It's also rare that you visually can see it so clearly that he just goes multiple kilometres faster than the rest
Yep. And tbf, you originally wrote at least 5 km from the top, so pretty much spot on.

I guess that's why I wrote that you had more realistic expectations this time around ;)
 
Will he be able to restrain himself and ride with the other GC men? He needs to save energy for the tour and he could soft-pedal the remaining stages and win with ease.
I think chances are he rides passively until stage 20, where he tries to get one more stage win. I think there was a quote somewhere about having a big focus on stage 15 and stage 20 of this Giro and after seeing how hard he went after today it seems reasonable to expect he'll try something similar on the Grappa. Also, of the remaining mountain stages that one is by far the easiest to control.
 
Next year, Tadej would do the Tour Vuelta double. He wants the Vuelta at his palmares, of course. But after that, he might only race the Tour.
That's what I believe.
@mou says Pogi is less interested in the tour than he is the Giro and would have it be his only GT a year if he could. Of course, he will want to win the Vuelta and this will fit plans well if Pogi can win worlds RR.

But the sponsors are always most interested in the tour.
 
People were saying he should take it easy on the TT to be fresher today. Good he went full gas yesterday.
I still can't understand how his recovery and ability to perform in high altitude are still in doubt when he is by far the second best in the world. He has proven over and over again that no one can match him in a GT unless your name is Vingegaard. Today we had a true hard mountain stage with more than 6 hours on the saddle and he completely destroyed the field.
 
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