Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[BullsFan22]

So now only two things remain for Pog this year:
1. Beat Vingo and win the Tour
2. Win the Road World Championship

A bonus would be to scope up the Vuelta and Lombardia but I guess that's not in his focus.

Olympic gold in Paris?

 

[AmRacer]

So now only two things remain for Pog this year:
1. Beat Vingo and win the Tour
2. Win the Road World Championship

A bonus would be to scope up the Vuelta and Lombardia but I guess that's not in his focus.

Beat Rogla at Emilia

 

[Offline]

Olympic gold in Paris?

Depends of the shape he leave the tour in.

I think he will skip. Next race after the Tour might be the 2 races in Canada as build up to WC.

He'll forsure end the season with Lombardia and probably race 1 or 2 of the italien 1 day races between WC and Lombardia.

 

[Red Rick]

I belive they are on quite good terms

Yeah the narrative that Rog would hate Pog is just weird

 

[bNator]

Yeah the narrative that Rog would hate Pog is just weird

I think he did for some time. Or at least was quite cold towards him. Pog did some things in TdF 2020 which were not completely straight-forward ("we can do great things together", "I already have a brother"). He used Roglic's patronising attitude towards him to his advantage. It's completely Roglic's fault to fall for that, of course, but it is also understandable he wasn't too enthusiastic about that afterwards.

 

[Miha81]

Yeah the narrative that Rog would hate Pog is just weird

There never was. Delusional fans created this narrative.

Rog was first to congratulate him and admit that he was not strong enough in final stage of 2020 TDF when it mattered the most. There is no bad blood from Rog to Pog (and vice versa).

 

[Mina.S]

There never was. Delusional fans created this narrative.

Rog was first to congratulate him and admit that he was not strong enough in final stage of 2020 TDF when it mattered the most. There is no bad blood from Rog to Pog (and vice versa).

I don’t think he hated him but there was definitely tension. Rog let Pog get crucified by public trial in Slovenia so much so that his mum gave a rare interview saying she wished Tadej never won the tour that year because of how traumatic the whole situation was.

 

[Barkintheeye]

Is it still confirmed that Pog isn't doing either the Olympics (Aug 3) or the Road WC (Sep 21)?

 

[Mina.S]

Is it still confirmed that Pog isn't doing either the Olympics (Aug 3) or the Road WC (Sep 21)?

He’s doing both

 

[Salvarani]

I don’t think he hated him but there was definitely tension. Rog let Pog get crucified by public trial in Slovenia so much so that his mum gave a rare interview saying she wished Tadej never won the tour that year because of how traumatic the whole situation was.

I dont believe Rog is personally responsible for that.

They are rivals but have huge respect for each other.

It is just instigating and dumb fans making it weird.

 

[Mina.S]

I dont believe Rog is personally responsible for that.

They are rivals but have huge respect for each other.

It is just instigating and dumb fans making it weird.

He’s pretty responsible for letting it go on.

 

[Salvarani]

He’s pretty responsible for letting it go on.

Lol, whatever. This exactly my point. Just weird to put it on Roglic to stop an unreasonable outrage. Talking about it now 4 years later even weirder.

Neither of them cares or are bothered with each other. Thats what matters and fans should take note. Stop instigating.

 

[Miha81]

I don’t think he hated him but there was definitely tension. Rog let Pog get crucified by public trial in Slovenia so much so that his mum gave a rare interview saying she wished Tadej never won the tour that year because of how traumatic the whole situation was.

What could Rog do to prevent so called fans crucifying Pog? Announce that he is happy to loose TDF? I did not notice any tension from Rog's side.

There was however tension inside Rog's fan base but problem with majority Slovenian fans is that they started following cycling in 2016 or so and knew next to nothing about tactical aspects of the game in 2020 and having clear favourite among both Slovenian stars.

I admit I cheared for Pogi that stage in 2020 TDF as I like suspension and turnarounds. I also like Pog's racing style a little more.

But in 2024 edition of TDF I will most likely chear for Rog because of his story, character, bad luck in recent years and fact that this year might be one of the last chances for him to finish in yellow.

This does not mean that as Slovenian I do not support both of them. One brought Slovenia to the cycling map and other is generational talent from Slovenia. On the other hand this also does not mean that I can't appreciate greatness of MVD or Vinge when I see it (although probably less emphatic than when compatriots show it).

 

[Peyroteo94]

No, he didn’t.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1794457699419058321

View: https://x.com/ammattipyoraily/status/1794457699419058321


The weight of Pogacar or any other rider, is irrelevant. The comparation between perfomances is in a padron weight. Ammattipyoraily uses always "65"kg. LR guys "60 kg".

Yes, he probably did. This is wrong! I went back to rewatch the stage and when Pogacar attacked, Pellizari was 5.4 km away from the top so Pogacar who was 45-50" behind, probably was at 5.6/5.7 km. I clock my watch when he attacked and he took 15'24" to reach the top, 7" less than 15'31" given by Velon CC. Please, don't try to undervalue Pogacar's performance just because you don't like him. If you have facts, it is okay to argue against but if you have not, you shouldn't be writing some things.

 

[Fos]

Yes, he probably did. This is wrong! I went back to rewatch the stage and when Pogacar attacked, Pellizari was 5.4 km away from the top so Pogacar who was 45-50" behind, probably was at 5.6/5.7 km. I clock my watch when he attacked and he took 15'24" to reach the top, 7" less than 15'31" given by Velon CC. Please, don't try to undervalue Pogacar's performance just because you don't like him. If you have facts, it is okay to argue against but if you have not, you shouldn't be writing some things.

I want to add that while he was climbing he fought the fans, did high five with the children and talk to Pellizzari for towing.... It is evident that he could have gone faster.

 

[BubbaChuck]

some live in denial,pog is different level this year.he basically matched jonas best two times in this giro.stage 15 more impressive than loze,jonas looked dead,pog still had reserve.stage 2 attack his best pouncher effort of his career and best flat tt in his life.now easy part is over and hard part begins.week off and than absolutelly smashing that alttitude camp.different than jonas and kuss last year.people dont understand pogs mental strenght(no comp to jonas) and his elite physical recovery.if he wins tour,than its gonna be hard decision between OI and vuelta.every 4 years vs never been done before.i know,what i would be doing,lmao.

 

[BubbaChuck]

san milan was his coach last 5 years,how much better pog would be with elite coach.well never know.

 

[Salvarani]

some live in denial,pog is different level this year.he basically matched jonas best two times in this giro.stage 15 more impressive than loze,jonas looked dead,pog still had reserve.stage 2 attack his best pouncher effort of his career and best flat tt in his life.now easy part is over and hard part begins.week off and than absolutelly smashing that alttitude camp.different than jonas and kuss last year.people dont understand pogs mental strenght(no comp to jonas) and his elite physical recovery.if he wins giro,than its gonna be hard decision between OI and vuelta.every 4 years vs never been done before.i know,what i would be doing,lmao.

I think you are right but Vuelta no chance this year.

 

[Lequack]

Out of the pink, for now.
PS: They added a new mural for him in Rome.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Out of the pink, for now.

His shoes are still pink.

 

[Froome]

Yes, he probably did. This is wrong! I went back to rewatch the stage and when Pogacar attacked, Pellizari was 5.4 km away from the top so Pogacar who was 45-50" behind, probably was at 5.6/5.7 km. I clock my watch when he attacked and he took 15'24" to reach the top, 7" less than 15'31" given by Velon CC. Please, don't try to undervalue Pogacar's performance just because you don't like him. If you have facts, it is okay to argue against but if you have not, you shouldn't be writing some things.

Ammattipyoraily clocked 15:26 s.

Actually not. Pogacar did very good perfomances, not just on Monte Grappa, but also in the time trials and Foscagno.

He did a good perfomance on Grappa, i just said he did far from 6.9 w/kg in the last 15 min according to ammattipyoraily, but doesn't mean he did a bad perfomance.

 

[scribers]

some live in denial,pog is different level this year.he basically matched jonas best two times in this giro.stage 15 more impressive than loze,jonas looked dead,pog still had reserve.stage 2 attack his best pouncher effort of his career and best flat tt in his life.now easy part is over and hard part begins.week off and than absolutelly smashing that alttitude camp.different than jonas and kuss last year.people dont understand pogs mental strenght(no comp to jonas) and his elite physical recovery.if he wins tour,than its gonna be hard decision between OI and vuelta.every 4 years vs never been done before.i know,what i would be doing,lmao.

Olympics chicaban race too close to the tour. Pogi will be more tormented by the vuelta vs worlds. I’d like to see him ride rhe veulta with stated purpose to leave early or stay if it won’t imperile worlds. His biggest stated goal this season is world championship RR

 

[kingjr]

Didnt see the stage but it popped all over instagram everywhere so i got the message lets say it like that haha..:

Saw Pellizarri had his best day of his career so far: https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/20...and-a-second-place-on-his-giro-ditalia-debut/

''Pellizzari recalled. My brother messaged me 'Find a way to get Pogačar's sunglasses' so I came into the tent and asked for them. He also gave me his maglia rosa. I wished him all the best – he's great, the best in history.

Guy seemed more happy to get pogacars jersey than he would had he won, you dont see that in cycling what a moment

Pogacar said Pellizzari showed him a photo they took together at Strade Bianche in 2019

 

[Peyroteo94]

Ammattipyoraily clocked 15:26 s.

Actually not. Pogacar did very good perfomances, not just on Monte Grappa, but also in the time trials and Foscagno.

He did a good perfomance on Grappa, i just said he did far from 6.9 w/kg in the last 15 min according to ammattipyoraily, but doesn't mean he did a bad perfomance.

But they count the last 5.4 km and that's not true at all. He attacks when Pellizari is at 5.4 km to the top, so he did that time in 5.6/5.7 km.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Congrats young man for another big win. Now he misses Vuelta!