Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Netserk]

Score looks unreal

What's unreal is that his season score could very well surpass his already record-setting rolling score.

 

[zekance]

Currently at UAE altitude camp is Sivakov, Politt, Almeida, Wellens, Ayuso and Yates. They had more provisional riders on the list than this so I wonder if they have already decided on the team?

Pog is going to altitude with Urska when she is back from racing in Spain and not sure who else will joint them there.

Looks like Soler has already started with solerisem.

 

[velaso montador]

Now one week left of my holiday in the mediterranean sea with my new boat, im high on life nothing is like summer time it really isnt, I just seen the giro a few bits and gotten the hang of a certain stages, the livigno stage for instance woooow, last one too..

Big congratz to Pogacar on his giro win. And what a fashion of display too. Its hardly surprising tho for everyone objective about this, is it, he was unbeatable for everyone last year before he broke his wrist and lost training/prep too, hes clearly leagues above everyone its not hard to understand its as common sense as it can go by now. He even beat mvdp at flandern even tho he is the one wherever it is closest to beating him if hes 100% for sure... Vingegaard was chanceless in the mountains in PN just like everytime else when hes 100% and not hurt or not 100% hes still a great rider in GT so danish ppl dont get mad over nothing, I love vingegaard hes a awesome rider one he really is one thing doesnt have to mean the other.. then he hurt himself then obv everyone can battle him not only vinge but roglic, evnepoel etc too thats just basic logic when hes not 100%. Everyone knew before the tour, sean kelly even said it its impossible for him to go on 3 weeks with that prep long before it started its not science (but just cause its pogacar its always a chance), but like whaat just be objective and its not hard, a few handfull fans run with the narrative and draw them fast to the three a injured pogacar is the measurement for them nvm almost no proper training/altitude whatever like whaaat if anything it says it all doesnt it? Thats honestly to me only tho atleast just sad and wishfull thinking the point grown men doing that i feel sad for them i wish you could enjoy cycling with glass not half empty - too me atleast, well granted a very few handfull only who does it and i guess emotions are involved but yeah its bizzare if anything to me i wont touch on that more as its beyond pointless and lack of perspective.

Ofc can always live in a alternative universe and the past when he was hurt/not 100% if that makes your life better but friendly tip just be better than that life is full of options. everyone decide how they live their own life tho, or if he loose the tour which I think he will on the basis noone done the giro tour double in modern time for a reason since its far much more than X' and O's and believe hes 100% at the tour when noone ever been it after winning the giro no matter how great you was like contadoor or froome, thats always a possible scenario too if it makes your life better somewhat, I prefer looking at the big picture instead of half glass empty kinda thing to fool yourself its hardly the way to succes is my belief if anything to whatever it is in fact the opposite in my proffesion atleast.

Anyway moving on its really just common knowledge as it gets in real life. Beatiful show from him in the Giro when i saw hard to not like the guy sharing out bottles to kids in the race etcetc.

He is something entirerly different surely thats beyond common knowledge by now whoever you might liking hehe, watching the stages I did on eurosport the studio luke rowe and Blythe too really was mesmerized of him like everyone everytime i saw, i think at this stage ppl are lost of words as its so rare but at the same time something were used to by him now kinda thing. Properly at this point hes the goat too considering hes doing it in a different era than merckx which is 10x harder but I dont care about that impossible to judge different era anyway - for me its pointless and meaningless but thats just me, but the fact that its talked about already for every rider ive seen on TV, legends of old or active riders, it seems to be a foregone conclusion in the peleton too, lost count on how many who say it everytime they get interviewed, and it says it all.

Is the giro othe most beatiful race of the calender? Awesome country.

 

[hayneplane]

Currently at UAE altitude camp is Sivakov, Politt, Almeida, Wellens, Ayuso and Yates. They had more provisional riders on the list than this so I wonder if they have already decided on the team?

Pog is going to altitude with Urska when she is back from racing in Spain and not sure who else will joint them there.

PCS has those 6 plus Soler as the riders joining Pogacar in the TDF lineup.

Very strong but a lot of riders who will have to swallow their ego and work far earlier in stages than they are used to and nobody who has ever really been a full time domestique.

 

[Mina.S]

PCS has those 6 plus Soler as the riders joining Pogacar in the TDF lineup.

Very strong but a lot of riders who will have to swallow their ego and work far earlier in stages than they are used to and nobody who has ever really been a full time domestique.

PCS had 10 riders listed before so maybe they are trimming the list based on who is at altitude.

Soler is just riding around Andorra with motogp riders every day 🤷🏻‍♀️

 

[Miha81]

Trying to eat the Roglic engraving right off.

I belive they are on quite good terms

 

[Barkintheeye]

So now only two things remain for Pog this year:
1. Beat Vingo and win the Tour
2. Win the Road World Championship

A bonus would be to scope up the Vuelta and Lombardia but I guess that's not in his focus.

 

[bNator]

Roadworks still havent been completed either, sign is still there on the right!!!

I don't get the joke... What roadworks?

 

[tobydawq]

So now only two things remain for Pog this year:
1. Beat Vingo and win the Tour
2. Win the Road World Championship

A bonus would be to scope up the Vuelta and Lombardia but I guess that's not in his focus.

I would be very surprised if he didn't do Lombardia.

The Vuelta, no chance.

 

[BullsFan22]

So now only two things remain for Pog this year:
1. Beat Vingo and win the Tour
2. Win the Road World Championship

A bonus would be to scope up the Vuelta and Lombardia but I guess that's not in his focus.

Olympic gold in Paris?

 

[AmRacer]

So now only two things remain for Pog this year:
1. Beat Vingo and win the Tour
2. Win the Road World Championship

A bonus would be to scope up the Vuelta and Lombardia but I guess that's not in his focus.

Beat Rogla at Emilia

 

[Offline]

Olympic gold in Paris?

Depends of the shape he leave the tour in.

I think he will skip. Next race after the Tour might be the 2 races in Canada as build up to WC.

He'll forsure end the season with Lombardia and probably race 1 or 2 of the italien 1 day races between WC and Lombardia.

 

[Red Rick]

I belive they are on quite good terms

Yeah the narrative that Rog would hate Pog is just weird

 

[bNator]

Yeah the narrative that Rog would hate Pog is just weird

I think he did for some time. Or at least was quite cold towards him. Pog did some things in TdF 2020 which were not completely straight-forward ("we can do great things together", "I already have a brother"). He used Roglic's patronising attitude towards him to his advantage. It's completely Roglic's fault to fall for that, of course, but it is also understandable he wasn't too enthusiastic about that afterwards.

 

[Miha81]

Yeah the narrative that Rog would hate Pog is just weird

There never was. Delusional fans created this narrative.

Rog was first to congratulate him and admit that he was not strong enough in final stage of 2020 TDF when it mattered the most. There is no bad blood from Rog to Pog (and vice versa).

 

[Mina.S]

There never was. Delusional fans created this narrative.

Rog was first to congratulate him and admit that he was not strong enough in final stage of 2020 TDF when it mattered the most. There is no bad blood from Rog to Pog (and vice versa).

I don’t think he hated him but there was definitely tension. Rog let Pog get crucified by public trial in Slovenia so much so that his mum gave a rare interview saying she wished Tadej never won the tour that year because of how traumatic the whole situation was.

 

[Barkintheeye]

Is it still confirmed that Pog isn't doing either the Olympics (Aug 3) or the Road WC (Sep 21)?

 

[Mina.S]

Is it still confirmed that Pog isn't doing either the Olympics (Aug 3) or the Road WC (Sep 21)?

He’s doing both

 

[Salvarani]

I don’t think he hated him but there was definitely tension. Rog let Pog get crucified by public trial in Slovenia so much so that his mum gave a rare interview saying she wished Tadej never won the tour that year because of how traumatic the whole situation was.

I dont believe Rog is personally responsible for that.

They are rivals but have huge respect for each other.

It is just instigating and dumb fans making it weird.

 

[Mina.S]

I dont believe Rog is personally responsible for that.

They are rivals but have huge respect for each other.

It is just instigating and dumb fans making it weird.

He’s pretty responsible for letting it go on.

 

[Salvarani]

He’s pretty responsible for letting it go on.

Lol, whatever. This exactly my point. Just weird to put it on Roglic to stop an unreasonable outrage. Talking about it now 4 years later even weirder.

Neither of them cares or are bothered with each other. Thats what matters and fans should take note. Stop instigating.

 

[Miha81]

I don’t think he hated him but there was definitely tension. Rog let Pog get crucified by public trial in Slovenia so much so that his mum gave a rare interview saying she wished Tadej never won the tour that year because of how traumatic the whole situation was.

What could Rog do to prevent so called fans crucifying Pog? Announce that he is happy to loose TDF? I did not notice any tension from Rog's side.

There was however tension inside Rog's fan base but problem with majority Slovenian fans is that they started following cycling in 2016 or so and knew next to nothing about tactical aspects of the game in 2020 and having clear favourite among both Slovenian stars.

I admit I cheared for Pogi that stage in 2020 TDF as I like suspension and turnarounds. I also like Pog's racing style a little more.

But in 2024 edition of TDF I will most likely chear for Rog because of his story, character, bad luck in recent years and fact that this year might be one of the last chances for him to finish in yellow.

This does not mean that as Slovenian I do not support both of them. One brought Slovenia to the cycling map and other is generational talent from Slovenia. On the other hand this also does not mean that I can't appreciate greatness of MVD or Vinge when I see it (although probably less emphatic than when compatriots show it).

 

[Peyroteo94]

No, he didn’t.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1794457699419058321

View: https://x.com/ammattipyoraily/status/1794457699419058321


The weight of Pogacar or any other rider, is irrelevant. The comparation between perfomances is in a padron weight. Ammattipyoraily uses always "65"kg. LR guys "60 kg".

Yes, he probably did. This is wrong! I went back to rewatch the stage and when Pogacar attacked, Pellizari was 5.4 km away from the top so Pogacar who was 45-50" behind, probably was at 5.6/5.7 km. I clock my watch when he attacked and he took 15'24" to reach the top, 7" less than 15'31" given by Velon CC. Please, don't try to undervalue Pogacar's performance just because you don't like him. If you have facts, it is okay to argue against but if you have not, you shouldn't be writing some things.

 

[Fos]

Yes, he probably did. This is wrong! I went back to rewatch the stage and when Pogacar attacked, Pellizari was 5.4 km away from the top so Pogacar who was 45-50" behind, probably was at 5.6/5.7 km. I clock my watch when he attacked and he took 15'24" to reach the top, 7" less than 15'31" given by Velon CC. Please, don't try to undervalue Pogacar's performance just because you don't like him. If you have facts, it is okay to argue against but if you have not, you shouldn't be writing some things.

I want to add that while he was climbing he fought the fans, did high five with the children and talk to Pellizzari for towing.... It is evident that he could have gone faster.

 

[BubbaChuck]

some live in denial,pog is different level this year.he basically matched jonas best two times in this giro.stage 15 more impressive than loze,jonas looked dead,pog still had reserve.stage 2 attack his best pouncher effort of his career and best flat tt in his life.now easy part is over and hard part begins.week off and than absolutelly smashing that alttitude camp.different than jonas and kuss last year.people dont understand pogs mental strenght(no comp to jonas) and his elite physical recovery.if he wins tour,than its gonna be hard decision between OI and vuelta.every 4 years vs never been done before.i know,what i would be doing,lmao.