Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Salvarani]

Your sarcasm detector needs new firmware

Same to you, cold & hot.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Can he really be better in the Tour compared to the Giro?
Contador and Froome can't do it, both legends when we talk about GT's.

 

[Red Rick]

Can he really be better in the Tour compared to the Giro?
Contador and Froome can't do it, both legends when we talk about GT's.

They did much harder Giros

 

[Salvarani]

They did much harder Giros

Yeah, this was just the fastest Giro ever though.

 

[Froome]

They did much harder Giros

Nevertheless he will stop one week. It's never a good preparation stop training one week when the Tour starts in 4 weeks.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Nevertheless he will stop one week.

Did he, though?

 

[Froome]

Did he, though?

That's what Matxin said.

 

[hayneplane]

Yeah, this was just the fastest Giro ever though.

That is a correlation with it not being as hard a race. They were able to go faster because there was a lot less climbing this year.

 

[Salvarani]

That is a correlation with it not being as hard a race. They were able to go faster because there was a lot less climbing this year.

So you are saying there hasnt been any editions like this one before?

The pace was high on almost every stage, thats why it was the fastest = hard.

The other argument is also very poor since neither of the other faced any competition at all. It is just a poor attempt to diminish and to blatantly hate/troll. It is warranted to be called out for it.

 

[hayneplane]

So you are saying there hasnt been any editions like this one before?

The pace was high on almost every stage, thats why it was the fastest = hard.

The other argument is also very poor since neither of the other faced any competition at all. It is just a poor attempt to diminish and to blatantly hate/troll. It is warranted to be called out for it.

I am a massive Pogacar fan and hoping for the double so I am not saying it was easier to slight him.

Objectively it was an easier route than average but to be fair the peloton did attack the route in terms of speeds by routinely being ahead of the fastest projected times the race organisers.

 

[Fos]

It was the fastest Giro because it didn't have much mountain accumulation. And when the hard parts came, the efforts were chosen by him, and not by his rivals. If he has to rest from something, I think it's more from the entire race protocol...

 

[Cookster15]

So you are saying there hasnt been any editions like this one before?

The pace was high on almost every stage, thats why it was the fastest = hard.

The other argument is also very poor since neither of the other faced any competition at all. It is just a poor attempt to diminish and to blatantly hate/troll. It is warranted to be called out for it.

Not sure about previous editions but this Giro had hugely less climbing compared to even last year. The shortened stage also added to the average speed and diminished the volume of climbing.

2024 also definitely had a lower level of competition.

It was fastest because of way less climbing on most stages there was a big fight to get in the early break and of course UAE had to work super hard to keep Pog within launch range of the breaks.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Giro was very easy but peloton is riding faster snd faster each year. They are breaking records in every race, classics or stage races.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Adam Yates will not race Dauphiné? Something is going on, maybe not on form?

 

[Monsi]

Adam Yates will not race Dauphiné? Something is going on, maybe not on form?

Maybe doing Suisse? No news about him atm though other than him being at Sierra Nevada.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Maybe doing Suisse? No news about him atm though other than him being at Sierra Nevada.

Very very strange. He will be vital in the Tour but I fear he won't be in the same level as last year.

 

[KZD]

Maybe doing Suisse? No news about him atm though other than him being at Sierra Nevada.

Almeida should be UAE's leader for Suisse with Del Toro as co-leader, there is always Tour of Slovenia but at least according to PCS, Yates is not scheduled to ride any race before the Tour.

 

[yaco]

I suspect A.Yates is still recovering from concussion. At the same time, Simon is likely to follow the 2023 program of not racing for nearly three months before the TDF.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I suspect A.Yates is still recovering from concussion. At the same time, Simon is likely to follow the 2023 program of not racing for nearly three months before the TDF.

He crashed nearly 5 months ago.

 

[yaco]

He crashed nearly 5 months ago.

And he has struggled for form in his two subsequent races.

 

[Peyroteo94]

And he has struggled for form in his two subsequent races.

Or they are trying to give leadership to Yates in Vuelta? Maybe he is riding the Tour with no gc ambitions but just help Pogi in order to build his shape for the Vuelta.

 

[Elos Anjos]

Almeida will also go to La Vuelta but wil ride Tour de Suisse nonetheless.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Nevertheless he will stop one week. It's never a good preparation stop training one week when the Tour starts in 4 weeks.

Except that Pogacar, unlike your fave, has been in a very good form for some (long) time and just ridden a GT. One week of break is to rest mentally and physically (BTW maybe you don't know but it's normal that after extensive training periods rest days follow and are important part of building process). The next training block (coupled with rests) is to fine-tune his engine further and to prolong period of good form. Not to build his form from scratch. Time will tell what will be the result.

 

[Fos]

Nevertheless he will stop one week. It's never a good preparation stop training one week when the Tour starts in 4 weeks.

Let's assume that he and his coach are going to do the best preparation possible, it makes no sense to say that it is not good to stop for a week if they have all the data.

By the way, today he was already testing himself at Col de la Madone...

 

[BubbaChuck]

my man is at the same time arguing,pog will be tired week 3 and its bad to stop for a week.he just rode giro,lmao.