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Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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He also described his current state, which indicates a possible fatigue factor:

Last year after the World Championships I was 10, now I would say I am maybe 6 or 7 [tired out of 10]. Mentally better, physically a little destroyed but it evens out a little bit.

More of his recent comments here:

 
He also described his current state, which indicates a possible fatigue factor:

Last year after the World Championships I was 10, now I would say I am maybe 6 or 7 [tired out of 10]. Mentally better, physically a little destroyed but it evens out a little bit.

More of his recent comments here:

People are really underestimate how tough is to win Giro-Tour.
 
He never seemed like the type to sandbag about that sort of thing in the media to be fair, Glasgow he looked like he was about to collapse on the podium, that course was masochistic.
who can blame him after riding a tour without prep and broken wrist - every other rider wouldnt start the tour in that circumstances with the GC as the goal. Then he rode it every stage emptied himself. Not exactly the best circumstances for him vs the rest of his competiitors who rode the tour as prep for glasgow.

And then the WC route like you said was MASOCHISTIC too with all circumstaces and prep towards that WC, the bronze was extremely impressive I found on that course!
 
Just read a few pages of people speculating Pogacar would get taken out of the Vuelta in 2019. He won 3 stages and finished on the podium in that same race where he was supposed to stagehunt a bit, ride for Aru, maybe help Gaviria and leave after 12 days. Less than one year after he won the Tour

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I went through the first few pages and found Logic posting a nice interview with Philipsen about Pogačar possibly winning a GT in the future:
Philipsen on Pogacar: https://sporza.be/nl/2019/05/20/philipsen-over-pogacar/

Google Translated:

Philipsen: "Pogacar has the qualities to win a GT someday"

The Slovenian super talent Tadej Pogacar (UAE Team Emirates) crowned itself as the youngest ever winner of a stage race in the WorldTour last weekend. "Unlike other classification men, he is not afraid of a peloton," says Pogacar's teammate Jasper Philipsen.

Philipsen: "It all just happens with him"

The name Tadej Pogacar probably caused few bells to ring at the start of the season. 20-year-old Slovenian has only been in the WorldTour since this year, but came in at the big gate.

Pogacar won the Tour of the Algarve, became 6th in the Tour of the Basque Country and won the Tour of California last weekend. With its 20 springs, it is thus the youngest ever winner of a stage race in the WorldTour.

"I was not completely surprised by his performance," says Jasper Philipsen about his teammate at UAE. "I knew that Pogi (that's what we call him in the team) had a lot to offer. But that he finishes in such a way is very clever."

"No one will deny that Tadej is a super talent. What he has already shown this season is quite unseen. It is all just happening to him, it is incredible."

"He surprised me the first time in the Tour of the Algarve, where he won the overall victory. In the Tour of California he surprised me again. Pogi has already had a pretty tough spring, but he consumes those many races good."

"If he lives for it, he can someday win a GT"

Philipsen is particularly impressed by his ability to climb. "Pogacar can kick his pedals enormously hard for a long time. Unlike other classification men, he is not afraid of a peloton either. Pogacar is able to pull his plan well, so we don't have to guide him quickly through the peloton."

"Many good youth riders who make the switch to the pros often need some time to adjust. But Pogacar is one of those who are immediately there. You need a lot of talent for that. That the coaching within the team is very good, will also play a role. "

Is Pogacar a future winner of the Tour, Giro or Vuelta? "He certainly has the qualities to win a big round. If he stays there for life and work like this, then that is certainly possible."

"Pogacar will certainly not start to float. He is a normal, cool and down-to-earth guy."

Philipsen: "If I maintain condition, results will follow"

Jasper Philipsen himself was also in the spotlight last week during the Tour of California. "I have been close to a stage victory a few times," says our young countryman. "But I can't blame myself much."

"If I can maintain this condition, the results will follow. My next appointments are the Hammer Series and the Tour of Limburg. After that there are also a few one-day courses in Belgium on the program such as Across the Hageland, the Heist Arrow and the Eleven Cities Round .
 
I went through the first few pages and found Logic posting a nice interview with Philipsen about Pogačar possibly winning a GT in the future:

It's a bit sad the thread was only opened after his Tour de l'Avenir win, otherwise there could have been some even more hilariously cautious takes to look back on.

Oh well, I guess Gigs made up for that with post-2020 Dauphiné hot take.
 
Just read a few pages of people speculating Pogacar would get taken out of the Vuelta in 2019. He won 3 stages and finished on the podium in that same race where he was supposed to stagehunt a bit, ride for Aru, maybe help Gaviria and leave after 12 days. Less than one year after he won the Tour

Lmao CN
Doesn't beat the "Pogacar is riding for Aru" crap that UAE were selling in 2020
 
Just read a few pages of people speculating Pogacar would get taken out of the Vuelta in 2019. He won 3 stages and finished on the podium in that same race where he was supposed to stagehunt a bit, ride for Aru, maybe help Gaviria and leave after 12 days. Less than one year after he won the Tour

Lmao CN
The official team stance was that Aru was GC leader and Pog was there to support him and see how far he could take it.
Like you said, Vuelta 2019. It was a different reality back then, and imho quite a normal discussion. But hindsight 20/20. Before his win in Avenir one year earlier, nobody was talking about Pogacar. Bernal winning the Tour at the age of 22 was already seen as an outlier, and even he didn't podium a GT before that. Pog's results weren't of that order that you would expect him to podium his first GT a week before turning 21.
 
Maxtin also says that Pogi is tired and that Vingo is the Tour favourite. While in case of the DS I think it's some kind of game (to take the pressure off) in case of Pogi I tend to believe him.
Crazy if its true that he is in fact tired when in reality he didnt need to win by 10min then .. Either Maxtin and co are clueless or this is just mindgames - which is for me the far most logical thing.
 
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Crazy if its true that he is in fact tired when in reality he didnt need to win by 10min then .. Either Maxtin and co are clueless or this is just mindgames - which is for me the far most logical thing.
They're not mutually exclusive.
Fatigue might well only settle after a break from racing. During the Giro he was "hot" so he didn't feel it. It's also clear he didn't ride to his full capacities.
 
They're not mutually exclusive.
Fatigue might well only settle after a break from racing. During the Giro he was "hot" so he didn't feel it. It's also clear he didn't ride to his full capacities.
True but thats should be calculated and I assume was considered in even atleast it should have been from them too was my point. When you and me know that they certaintly do too. And then winning by 10min wasnt needed was my only point then but im sure its just mindgames and they have control on the data etc..

Giro - Tour never been done in modern time so it goes without saying its gonne be hard nevertheless regardless, yes.
 
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Speaking of tired Pogi. I hope UAE learned something from last year. In a lot of the stages in the Tour he finished looking pale and sickly. It was one of the few times I legitimately worried about a rider and his health.
 
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