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Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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Maxtin also says that Pogi is tired and that Vingo is the Tour favourite. While in case of the DS I think it's some kind of game (to take the pressure off) in case of Pogi I tend to believe him.
Crazy if its true that he is in fact tired when in reality he didnt need to win by 10min then .. Either Maxtin and co are clueless or this is just mindgames - which is for me the far most logical thing.
 
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Crazy if its true that he is in fact tired when in reality he didnt need to win by 10min then .. Either Maxtin and co are clueless or this is just mindgames - which is for me the far most logical thing.
They're not mutually exclusive.
Fatigue might well only settle after a break from racing. During the Giro he was "hot" so he didn't feel it. It's also clear he didn't ride to his full capacities.
 
They're not mutually exclusive.
Fatigue might well only settle after a break from racing. During the Giro he was "hot" so he didn't feel it. It's also clear he didn't ride to his full capacities.
True but thats should be calculated and I assume was considered in even atleast it should have been from them too was my point. When you and me know that they certaintly do too. And then winning by 10min wasnt needed was my only point then but im sure its just mindgames and they have control on the data etc..

Giro - Tour never been done in modern time so it goes without saying its gonne be hard nevertheless regardless, yes.
 
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Speaking of tired Pogi. I hope UAE learned something from last year. In a lot of the stages in the Tour he finished looking pale and sickly. It was one of the few times I legitimately worried about a rider and his health.
Was more the case of him coming in with far less than ideal preperation so naturally always had to dig deep rather than beeing fresh. Also body uses energy healing his broken wrist throughout the tour rather than instead recovering like normally the body constantly had to fight that too.

Was always gonne be the case last year when he entered within the circumstances he did. Was even worse in WC right after.
 
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Guys, you need to listen carefully to Pog's words from G's podcast. He knows that he is supposed to say the politically correct 'It was a super hard Giro and I am quite tired now'. He can't be brutally honest and say 'This Giro was a nice training block for me' because thousands of people will listen to him later and interpret his words. You are not super tired if on Stage 15 and Stage 20 you arrive fresher at the finish than on Stage 2.
Now the real things that were interesting from the interview.
First, he mentioned Javier Sola and that he will adjust his preparation for the Tour accordingly to him. He said that he feels much better working with him this year.
Second, he mentioned that in last year's TDF he started the race being too aggressive and paid for it in the end but also he admitted that the shape was NOT SO GOOD.
Third, he said that Adam Yates will be his right hand man in the TDF and Almeida and Ayuso will be superdomestiques (he didn't mention Ayuso as a coleader). I have serious doubts in Ayuso's desire to work for Pog.
 
Guys, you need to listen carefully to Pog's words from G's podcast. He knows that he is supposed to say the politically correct 'It was a super hard Giro and I am quite tired now'. He can't be brutally honest and say 'This Giro was a nice training block for me' because thousands of people will listen to him later and interpret his words. You are not super tired if on Stage 15 and Stage 20 you arrive fresher at the finish than on Stage 2.
Now the real things that were interesting from the interview.
First, he mentioned Javier Sola and that he will adjust his preparation for the Tour accordingly to him. He said that he feels much better working with him this year.
Second, he mentioned that in last year's TDF he started the race being too aggressive and paid for it in the end but also he admitted that the shape was NOT SO GOOD.
Third, he said that Adam Yates will be his right hand man in the TDF and Almeida and Ayuso will be superdomestiques (he didn't mention Ayuso as a coleader). I have serious doubts in Ayuso's desire to work for Pog.
Ayuso will bend the knee if not hes digging his own grave thats stupid. I think hes more clever than that if not its moviestar next and that can hardly help his career. His best way of winning is riding on Uae and in a while get leader role in the races Pog dont participate in otherwice its less money, less wins, less everything.
 
Doing the double is something special. I just saw in an artcle the club of the riders that has done it an that has to be one or the most special club in cycling:

- Coppi
- Anquetil
- Eddy Merckx
- Bernard Hinault
- Stephen Roche
- Miguel Induráin
- Marco Pantani


Maybe Roche pulled something special that year that included the WC.
Merckx did the Triple Crown first in 1974.