Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[AmRacer]

Everyone of em seems fine after the crash in dauphine. Also their A++ on route from yesterdays TT in terms of the tour. Compared that with a less than 100% Teddy after the giro and it equals the field somewhat. Gonne be exciting.

Tadej will be at 100% for the first stage.

 

[velaso montador]

Tadej will be at 100% for the first stage.

Maby for the first stage but thats not the point. The giro- Tour in modern time has never been done and been seen as impossible for a reason and regardless is not the best optimal preperation for the Tour its nothing else to say. That he is Pogacar and better than everyone else doesnt change that equation, the giro is not the optimal prep for the tour. It just evens the playing field so more excitment tho so all good.

 

[Peyroteo94]

He just needs to stay on his bike. Roglic and Remco are very likely gonna fell. These dudes can't stay out of trouble for a single week

 

[Lorzenz08]

Personally I'm of the opinion that Vingegaard will be in relatively great shape for the Tour.

Probably not as good as last year, but from what we've seen these previous 2 years unless Pogi is going to be significantly better, I think Vingo can edge Pogi in the third week even if he's not 100%.

That's why I really hope Pogi will be in superb shape, he's going to need it !

 

[rm2021]

That he is Pogacar and better than everyone else doesnt change that equation, the giro is not the optimal prep for the tour. It just evens the playing field so more excitment tho so all good.

No, he is not, since he is not the defending champion. Don't act like he wasn't humilliated in the last two Tours.

 

[Fos]

No, he is not, since he is not the defending champion. Don't act like he wasn't humilliated in the last two Tours.

Being defending champion does not tell anything at all.

 

[Oldermanish]

With all his major competitors coming to the TdF banged up, having the Giro in his legs might be smaller burden for Pogacar. Crazy season.

And having half a Giro in his legs is even less....no burden. He's trained to perfection and hasn't broken anything in a year or so. Good prep for LeTour.
Hope I haven't jinxed this upcoming Boucle'.

 

[Oldermanish]

No, he is not, since he is not the defending champion. Don't act like he wasn't humilliated in the last two Tours.

Humiliated? Not sure what perspective suggests anyone that rides the Tour isn't subject to pressures, illnesses and bad days. Humiliation isn't the same as disappointment, is it?

Being defending champion does not tell anything at all.

Particularly if last year's DC is on the sidelines or trying to recover.

 

[Berflamand]

I guess he knows which wheel to follow at the Tour.

Soler miraculously (and/or with a lot of skill) avoided crashing in both the mass crash at Itzulia as at Dauphiné while both times being caught right in the middle of it.

 

[velaso montador]

Being defending champion does not tell anything at all.

I guess he likes to live in a alternative universe where pogacar wasnt hurt that year, without prep or even rode in pain - then he lost one race wow haha.

Anyway thats boring and honestly just sad for that guy nvm, it goes without saying Pogacar is another level is common sense from the entire cycling field so it goes without saying, every pro to legend even say hes on the level of Merckx already that much is clear as day by now.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Pogacar will win the Tour if he shows up in the Giro's level. But I am little afraid he will crash because Wellens is always crashing and will guide Pogacar in flat stages.

 

[velaso montador]

Pogacar will win the Tour if he shows up in the Giro's level. But I am little afraid he will crash because Wellens is always crashing and will guide Pogacar in flat stages.

Imagine roulers of Bjerg, Wellens and Pollit next year. Uae always lacked some sort of high calibre roulers type of guys now they have 3 of the top 10 in the world there. While their climber department of the team is unmatched by anyone.

Also with young riders like Morgada, Jan Christen, DEL TORO, Fischer coming up they really is gonne be the best team for many years to come.

UAE gonne be the benchmark in many years to come.

Edit: And yes indeed regarding Wellens this year both him and Politt have important roles and not easy to replace like they can with other climbers of tier 1 quality. Especially with Bjerg and Mcnulty given the greencard for OL too.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Imagine roulers of Bjerg, Wellens and Pollit next year. Uae always lacked some sort of high calibre roulers type of guys now they have 3 of the top 10 in the world there. While their climber department of the team is unmatched by anyone.

Also with young riders like Morgada, Jan Christen, DEL TORO, Fischer coming up they really is gonne be the best team for many years to come.

UAE gonne be the benchmark in many years to come.

Edit: And yes indeed regarding Wellens this year both him and Politt have important roles and not easy to replace like they can with other climbers of tier 1 quality. Especially with Bjerg and Mcnulty given the greencard for OL too.

Bjerg would be perfect in the Tour squad, specially on stage 9. Pogacar can win the Tour there.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Yates is going to race Tour de Suisse. I am intrigued if he will ride to win it or just train for the Tour

 

[rokovski]

Pog cracking asphalt with intervals.

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Without crashes tour is done.

 

[BubbaChuck]

pog will eat them alive,this is totally different preparation now under sola.just sayin.that uae train will drop everybody but jonas,if in peak shape.

 

[yaf]

pog will eat them alive,this is totally different preparation now under sola.just sayin.that uae train will drop everybody but jonas,if in peak shape.

Pog is the only one trained by sola for the tour team. am not sure if their train could drop roglic in the mountains

 

[Cookster15]

Yeh, today would only encourage Pogacar I would think. Rogla puts just 3 secs into Ciccone and 11 sec into Vlasov on a 11km/8% climb. Imagine what Pog would have done today based upon what we saw at the Giro. He did similar to what Roglic did today on Prati di Tivo breathing through his nose.

But tomorrow's harder stage will be a better indication how well Roglic is going. He may be targeting tomorrow's stage and was keeping something in reserve today? Like Pog on Prati di Tivo. We will see.

 

[Taxus4a]

Yeh, today would only encourage Pogacar I would think. Rogla puts just 3 secs into Ciccone and 11 sec into Vlasov on a 11km/8% climb. Imagine what Pog would have done today based upon what we saw at the Giro. He did similar to what Roglic did today on Prati di Tivo breathing through his nose.

But tomorrow's harder stage will be a better indication how well Roglic is going. He may be targeting tomorrow's stage and was keeping something in reserve today? Like Pog on Prati di Tivo. We will see.

Today Pog would have put one minute to Rog. But If Vingegaard is ok, it is different, they would have get the line together,,and maybe Pog win at the sprint, In a stage like tomorrow agter today stage, Vingegaard is better, but if Pogacar dont makes mistakes, is better than the rest.

 

[Jack_89]

Yeh, today would only encourage Pogacar I would think. Rogla puts just 3 secs into Ciccone and 11 sec into Vlasov on a 11km/8% climb. Imagine what Pog would have done today based upon what we saw at the Giro. He did similar to what Roglic did today on Prati di Tivo breathing through his nose.

But tomorrow's harder stage will be a better indication how well Roglic is going. He may be targeting tomorrow's stage and was keeping something in reserve today? Like Pog on Prati di Tivo. We will see.

Cause of this reason I reject all the speculations about "the Roglic in alien mode thing" due to his watt/kg performance

 

[CyclistAbi]

Today Pog would have put one minute to Rog.

Just one?

 

[Froome]

Just one?

Not that much. 40 s.

 

[Taxus4a]

Just one?

It is too much for just one climb , Roglic is a good climber, he fighted with his domestique at the Giro.

 

[CyclistAbi]

It is too much for just one climb , Roglic is a good climber, he fighted with his domestique at the Giro.

I see. I was thinking surely 10 minutes.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Pog cracking asphalt with intervals.

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Without crashes tour is done.

Ready to rock the first stage! Give me yellow for 21 stages