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Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

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WTF is going on man. These guys spend months at altitude, nutrition and training dialled in, the most talented in the world, on top doping programmes, and he rides away from all. This is embarrassing for everyone involved in the sport
This is embarassing to all most everybody, except some fanatic fans who think he is clean, and can't even think about the possibility cycling dies again, like 20 years ago.
 
I don’t mind when someone dominates but this is like Pogacar is playing on recruit/easy difficulty. The issue is if he tests positive the amount of backlash it will get. It’ll be interesting to see how next year goes for him/UAE and how much Visma want to do in order to catch up. Every race he looks to get stronger.
 
I don’t mind when someone dominates but this is like Pogacar is playing on recruit/easy difficulty. The issue is if he tests positive the amount of backlash it will get. It’ll be interesting to see how next year goes for him/UAE and how much Visma want to do in order to catch up. Every race he looks to get stronger.
Visma doesn't have the same budget anymore. UAE is the top team in everything right now. The skeletor needs to step up if he wants to close the gap to his doped rival
 
I worry this will kill the sport, how long will he be able to do this before the journalists actually start doing their job and start asking questions like they did with US Postal and Sky.
Wouldn't hold my breath TBH.

Pog creates memes and personalities for those who want to see "history unfold",[[content removed]]. Maybe tiktokification is the desired direction for the sport.
 
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I wonder, supposing that Pogacar really is the biggest possible outlier this sport could generate right now, how good he could be expected to be.

Edit: Please don't see this as me saying that he is clean lol.
I'm wondering how much better he can still get and what it will take to pop him. Because this is just beyond absurd now.
 
Pogi did his first ascent of San Luca in 5:32. At the Tour, he and Vingegaard did 5:29. We're in October, six days after a 100-kilometer solo effort to win the World's on a terribly hard parcours, and the weather is terrible. And yet Pogi is only three seconds slower than he was on stage two of a Grand Tour. That's just laughable. We cannot do anything but laugh at this point. This sport is dead to me right now.
 
I wouldn't be able to tell how talented cause this kind of gap can only happen because of outdoping everyone harder than ever happened or because of motors.
This what you get when he is doing and he is physiological better than everybody else. We already have a lot of dopers, probably in a better doping program compared to his rivals (Indurain, LA, Froome, Contador) but the gap was way more leaner for their rivals. This gigantic gap is not explained only by doping, it can't be.
Pogacar was always a huge talent and he became an even better responder
 
This what you get when he is doing and he is physiological better than everybody else. We already have a lot of dopers, probably in a better doping program compared to his rivals (Indurain, LA, Froome, Contador) but the gap was way more leaner for their rivals. This gigantic gap is not explained only by doping, it can't be.
Pogacar was always a huge talent and he became an even better responder
You don't have data to prove he is physiological better than the other top guys.
 
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You are joking, right? Del Toro won a World Tour stage at age 19 on his second-ever race day as a neo-pro. Hirschi has eight this season. Ayuso has placed in the top-five in two of his three Grand Tour-starts.
Pogacar was a TdF winner before turning 22 years old and had a podium in the Vuelta too. Are you really trying to compare Pogacar’s palmares and specially performances to all 3 I mentioned? Do you need to wait 3/4 years to understand I am right or do you really think Ayuso or Del Toro will win the Tour in the next 2 seasons?