Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

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So does doping protect you from falling ill? And if so: do we believe vdP is cleanz?
I think it's possible something like HGH would make you less susceptible to illness during a couple weeks of destroying your body.
Also, for the sake of argument say MvdP is clean and he is racing against a doped rider and matching him, that would mean his baseline physiology is doing a lot more work than the doper, he is working harder, causing more stress on his body overall.
FWIW I think MvdP has one of the strongest cases for being clean at his level. Comes from cycling royalty so his genes are going to be as good as you can get, and he was absolutely dominant at pretty much every stage of his career.
 
There's just something visually upsetting about watching Vingegaard stand up on the pedals and make a ridiculously forceful acceleration, which Pogi just easily follows while completely seated. The amount of torque needed to generate that sort of power seated is something you'd expect from ridiculous watt monsters like Cancellara, but here we have a light climber doing it ...
 
Anyone want to hazard the percentage chance that Pogacar will win all 3 jerseys (I don't count the young rider jersey) and 6+ stages when this is all said and done? Feels like it's at least 30%+ at this point.
To update, Pog is now in the lead for KOM and is only 11 points behind Milan for the Green jersey. I guarantee you he is pissed he didn't win this stage. Do *not* be surprised when he goes for the win on the Champs if he's close to winning the Green Jersey.
 
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Btw, one thing that makes me quite suspicious about Pog getting an "edge" is how insecure he is when he rides with JV and how personal he is making it. Sprinting to the line on a MTF with no chance to win, just to take 2 seconds when he's up 4+ minutes is pretty indicative of that. Pog seems incredibly bitter about 2023 in particular and has a *massive* chip on his shoulder. It almost seems as though he wants to beat JV to the line in every single stage and in every category until the end of time. Even in bunch pelotons on flat stages it seems like he wants to cross ahead of JV.

That type of insecurity and obsession really signals someone who would do anything to get an edge.
 
Might regret this in 10 years but I think all comments about motors are just ridiculing this whole forum. Makes this the place for tin foil hats. Easy to brush of all 'clinic' as a result as the place of conspiracy moon landing rejecting fools.

History, other sports and common sense all dictate peds are most common explanation. See the flare up regarding 'clean sky' era and how that lead to 'clean generation' now.
Suggesting another explanation than the most obvious one isn't ridiculous, especially as it has been used in the past (likely on the highest level) and we're probably not aware of the latest technical advancements.
 
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