Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

[Red Rick]

And who among them do you think hasn't gone to the well? We have 18 year olds riding in the top ten as well....

It's not about it being clean.

It's about cycling at 3 different speeds so obviously that by using occam's razor it only makes sense if a certain rider recevies special protection from the UCI. Something the UCI has done before.

Add to that that in many forums you're supposed to stay quiet and most fans seem to act like TikTok Armstrong is the greatest thing to happen to this sport.

There is a Quintus Lentulus Batiatus quote that describes this perfeclty, but if I speak I am in big trouble.

 

[Salvarani]

And who among them do you think hasn't gone to the well? We have 18 year olds riding in the top ten as well....

Good point.

 

[Oldman]

It's not about it being clean.

It's about cycling at 3 different speeds so obviously that by using occam's razor it only makes sense if a certain rider recevies special protection from the UCI. Something the UCI has done before.

Add to that that in many forums you're supposed to stay quiet and most fans seem to act like TikTok Armstrong is the greatest thing to happen to this sport.

There is a Quintus Lentulus Batiatus quote that describes this perfeclty, but if I speak I am in big trouble.

Very strong leap of logic on the protection. Although the UAE team ownership has the money and political clout to pull it off if any team does.
Armstrong was a clumsy gangster move with too many people familiar with his history. Tadej has ridden like this very early on so it there is an issue; it involves every rider that wins a race. That would be an equally viable and fantastical conclusion, too.

 

[solo80k]

There is a Quintus Lentulus Batiatus quote that describes this perfeclty, but if I speak I am in big trouble.

A man must accept his fate, or be destroyed by it. 😁

 

[YellowSocks]

Commentator on French TV today: 'It seems easy for him at first glance, but if you look closely, you'll see that his belly moves a lot when he breathes, that indicates he's making a real effort.'

Why?

 

[AttaqueDeRolland]

Tadej has ridden like this very early on so it there is an issue; it involves every rider that wins a race.

Again, no. It's not just about winning. It's not hard to believe that Dylan Groenewegen is an excellent sprinter. He's built like a weightlifter and drops like a sack of potatoes when the gradient hits three percent. Credibility is a spectrum, and when you're a highly specialized rider, it's not difficult to believe that there's a possibility you're clean, not even when you're the best in the world at that one particular thing. But that's the thing about Pogi. He's the best at genuinely everything. He can outsprint sprinters, outclimb climbers, outwatt wattage monsters on the cobbles, and outside of freaky Remco - who is, well, a highly specialized rider - he also routinely smashes his adversaries when riding contre-la-montre. And even then, it's not just exclusively about how much he wins. It's also very much about how he wins. His nose-breathing, unphased, seated-acceleration-dominance is just so much outside the aforementioned spectrum of credibility that it's completely uncharted waters.

 

[ivanic]

mRNA. Gene doping.

I'm really worried about his health

or it's a motor and I'm worried about the sport

https://twitter.com/x/status/1933537281253466611

View: https://x.com/dauphine/status/1933537281253466611

 

[Red Rick]

A man must accept his fate, or be destroyed by it. 😁

No I was mostly not saying it because like 50% of the quote are profane words

 

[Krzysztof_O]

No I was mostly not saying it because like 50% of the quote are profane words

Teddy is a good boy who wins races sometimes. Accept it, move on and your life will be better!

 

[Red Rick]

Very strong leap of logic on the protection.

How is it a strong leap of logic when there is literally precedent from the same organisation as recent as 20 years ago.

 

[Raest]

Well that saved me 31 quid... Cheers Pog

 

[YellowSocks]

I propose that from now on cycling should stay away from Combloux. There are always problems there.

 

[MartinGT]

I know several who have enjoyed Pog now saying they cba watching races with him.

Uci need to pop him otherwise the viewership will just drop further

 

[MartinGT]

Well that saved me 31 quid... Cheers Pog

Watch the MTB instead.

 

[Mayomaniac]

I know several who have enjoyed Pog now saying they cba watching races with him.

Uci need to pop him otherwise the viewership will just drop further

For what is worth this year's Giro had better ratings in Italy and the best in 10 years on German Eurosport. He isn't the draw cycling media wants him to be.

 

[Notarobot]

Which rider are you talking about? Several guys rode the TT that way yesterday. Today Jorgenson scarcely got out of the saddle on the last climb. Maybe there is now parity in your fantasy parade.

I think you misread or misunderstood my comment

 

[Ilmaestro99]

You've got a 2 time tour de France winner in his prime, peaking towards his main goal, no doubt on the full rabobank programe, and he's accelerating out of the saddle and he can't hold the wheel of the guy riding seated in front of him ahahahahaha. Crazy.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Very strong leap of logic on the protection. Although the UAE team ownership has the money and political clout to pull it off if any team does.
Armstrong was a clumsy gangster move with too many people familiar with his history. Tadej has ridden like this very early on so it there is an issue; it involves every rider that wins a race. That would be an equally viable and fantastical conclusion, too.

Look at the connection between the emirates (the state) and the UCI, they pay them lots of money to host various sorts of cycling WCs for them (urban/bmx, e-cycling and in the coming years granfondo, road and track wcs). At the same time they have a state sponsored team. Very easy to hide some payments that way...

 

[Abedfo]

Pogacar a true marvel. One of the few people in history who can increase the velocity of a bike without changing gear or cadence.

 

[Notarobot]

Poga the bike-bender!

 

[Mayomaniac]

Pogacar a true marvel. One of the few people in history who can increase the velocity of a bike without changing gear or cadence.

Tbf, you can program the bottoms on top of the shimano hoods for shifting, so that you don't need to change your hand position to shift before an attack, but that doesn't make what he does look less unnatural...

 

[Mayomaniac]

To play devil's advocate, UAE are probably stupid enough to bring out max short acting rocket fuel and monoxide for the whole team because Pogacar's ego got a boo-boo in that TT. Rabo are probably still not showing all of their cards, so it is possible that it's gonna be a lot closer in the Tour.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I hope we'll see him do backflips on the bike while dropping Vingegaard during the Tour. Unlike his cycling contenders, Simone Biles may be able to offer up some real competition.

 

[Rackham]

Suddenly all the fantastic 4 hype from Sunday is dead.

It turns out Finestre is probably going to be the peak cycling entertainment of the year and at this rate the TdF winner will have a 5+ minutes margin again.

 

[Tim Cahill]

To play devil's advocate, UAE are probably stupid enough to bring out max short acting rocket fuel and monoxide for the whole team because Pogacar's ego got a boo-boo in that TT. Rabo are probably still not showing all of their cards, so it is possible that it's gonna be a lot closer in the Tour.

Something very fast acting definitely, the tt bike is slightly worse I think but nothing that would justify this kind of differential swing. Another comical outlier demonstration that make no sense within the context of the race, PdB last year as well as Torres/Avenir last stage. Tim Wellens suddenly looking like peak Richard Porte was quite funny though, Gianetti never did have much in the way of shame.