LeMond is someone in the good graces of the cycling community, he'd never talk *** about the new golden child. They really don't drive the public opinion they usually just parrot it.
Actually they know, but refrain to not lose the only graces they have left.
Sort of a social tap dance done for LeMond. Everyone around him was a doper, and all the Greg vs world rivalries are allowed to exist in folklore.
I think there must be more to it than this. "Affable" Gianetti would need to influence the UCI / testers (ITA). Because there are 14 markers supposedly tracked by the biopassport. You can't fool every marker by simply micro dosing EPO.
As already stated, Gianetti doesn't have to know anything, but knows who does from expirence and then build upon it. He is, after all, in charge, like Bruyneel, like Riis.
This is where I think the big bucks come in with the best of the best and all the latest gizmos and whatchamacallits (the same if not more up to date versions of WADA's own labs). The doctors are key to avoiding detection and boosting performance.
Oh no? Trek extinguished their collaboration with Lemond as a result. I don't doubt that Lemond was motivated by the loss on his return of investment for his bike line by Armstrong's success. However, the vile way in which Armstrong attempted to destroy him and others, let's us know who is the "bad guy" in that saga.
So, we agree. Trek's actions coming after the Ferrari remarks, confirms Armstrong was behind it.
Armstrong was placed under fire and brought the necessary pressure to bear to break Lemond's livelyhood. No need to be sorry about the prolepsis, as I already got that, but interests are an inevitable condition of socio-economic factors. On the hill one can only be knocked down. It must be seen if falling is justified or not and why.
Nah I don't think he is a mastermind. Cycling sport, and sport in general is just utterly naïeve. Same as with FIFA, it doesn't take Infantino to be a mastermind, it just takes the rest to be so naïeve... Sports is such a corrupt business and its wide in the open for all to see.
u do realize that Gianetti literally has decades of working with doping, with doping doctors, with doping systems. in fact, it can be argued that it is only through this lens he knows cycling at all. so give me a reason why he would change out of the blue?
and you would be correct.
I would suggest between 1990 and 1991 was the first big change (and in interviews, he agrees), but it's likely a gradual thing over 2-3 years. By 1993, he could not get even the slightest result.
he actually is not. he has repeatedly defended all riders who succumbed, despite not being one of them. however, he refused to be bullied by Armstrong, Trek, or Oakley, and won against each of them.
he has actually said that it was likely the fact that he had already won that helped not succumb to doping himself. He also attributes (or his wife has said) that cycling needed to be something "pure" in his life after dealing with being sexually abused as a kid.
...if Vingo has 97, that would be the record, and it boggles belief what Pog's would then have to be. which makes me all the more doubtful -- not that he is not a talent. But the radical change between 2023 and 2024 sets off alarms in my head. In 2021, he was already a 2-time winner of the TDF, when he was dropped on a hill by Remco (still coming back from his Lombardia crash) and Colbrelli in the Euros. This is absolutely UNFATHOMABLE any more.
Yes but do you realise avoiding detection under the bio passport whilst delivering huge performance gains must require specialist medical expertise way beyond the comprehension of the virtual backyard doper that Gianetti was? And as a manager he didn’t cover himself in glory with CERA either. Between his clown Ricco getting busted with CERA in 2008 and the 2020 TdF where was guru Gianetti?
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