Team Ineos Discussion thread

[MatParker117]

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Welcome to the Team Sky olympic champions club Elia, Pete and G were getting lonely.

Has Viviani been retained? Isnt his contract up this year?

Close to an extension apparently, don't see him leaving Sky support his track ambitions and he has friends there.

 

[Amnes2015]

Sky tweets supporting Viviani before and after the race are funny. Few outraged english patriots reporting for duty makes them even more funny.

 

[Amnes2015]

Seems Moscon and DvP are saved for ToB , good decision imo, instead of sending them to Vuelta.

 

[Brullnux]

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Sky tweets supporting Viviani before and after the race are funny. Few outraged english patriots reporting for duty makes them even more funny.

Lmao what did they expect them to do

 

[yaco]

Viviani is a great fit for a GC team in Sky - Needs limited support and will always get his 3 or 4 wins each year.

 

[TMP402]

Why on earth is poor Seb Henao going to Vattenfall?

 

[HelloDolly]

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Roche will not do the Vuelta cause of pneumonia

and yet again.. too late

Looks like it might be the pretty serious case of Legionnaires’ disease ...yikes 10% of cases are fatal ...but he is recovering

 

[JRanton]

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Why on earth is poor Seb Henao going to Vattenfall?

A bit odd I agree, especially considering Moscon was available. They are both riding Tour du Poitou Charentes where Moscon will be the protected rider considering the time trial.

Sky have quite a few riders unavailable at the moment due to injury/illness: Roche, Landa, Sergio Henao and Intxausti.

And then there are the riders who were at the Olympics: Viviani, Thomas, Poels, Kiryienka and Doull. Pretty sure the first three all crashed too, with Poels having to pull out of the time trial as a result.

Nieve is resting after doing the Giro-Tour and I guess there must be an injury for Alex Peters considering he hasn't raced since the nationals in June.

 

[TMP402]

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Why on earth is poor Seb Henao going to Vattenfall?

A bit odd I agree, especially considering Moscon was available. They are both riding Tour du Poitou Charentes where Moscon will be the protected rider considering the time trial.

Sky have quite a few riders unavailable at the moment due to injury/illness: Roche, Landa, Sergio Henao and Intxausti.

And then there are the riders who were at the Olympics: Viviani, Thomas, Poels, Kiryienka and Doull. Pretty sure the first three all crashed too, with Poels having to pull out of the time trial as a result.

Nieve is resting after doing the Giro-Tour and I guess there must be an injury for Alex Peters considering he hasn't raced since the nationals in June.

Zandio is also going to Poitou Charentes. Bit of a sad end to a career for him.

 

[MatParker117]

http://www.teamsky.com/teamsky/home/article/89742

Wisniowski is official, good flat's domestique for stage races and a great classics rider & lead out man for Viviani/DVP.

 

[JRanton]

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http://www.teamsky.com/teamsky/home/article/89742

Wisniowski is official, good flat's domestique for stage races and a great classics rider & lead out man for Viviani/DVP.

Yes, a nice upgrade on Fenn.

Sky's cobbles squad should be pretty good next year: Stannard, Rowe, Moscon, Van Poppel, Wisniowski, Puccio, Doull, Golas and Knees will be the core squad and then the likes of Thomas, Kwiatkowski and Viviani will ride selected races.

 

[TMP402]

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http://www.teamsky.com/teamsky/home/article/89742

Wisniowski is official, good flat's domestique for stage races and a great classics rider & lead out man for Viviani/DVP.

I hope this isn't the end of Andy Fenn.

 

[JRanton]

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http://www.teamsky.com/teamsky/home/article/89742

Wisniowski is official, good flat's domestique for stage races and a great classics rider & lead out man for Viviani/DVP.

I hope this isn't the end of Andy Fenn.

There was an article on this website earlier this month that suggested he was leaving.

 

[Gloin22]

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http://www.teamsky.com/teamsky/home/article/89742

Wisniowski is official, good flat's domestique for stage races and a great classics rider & lead out man for Viviani/DVP.

Yes, a nice upgrade on Fenn.

Sky's cobbles squad should be pretty good next year: Stannard, Rowe, Moscon, Van Poppel, Wisniowski, Puccio, Doull, Golas and Knees will be the core squad and then the likes of Thomas, Kwiatkowski and Viviani will ride selected races.

Nice upgrade?

They seem to have about same level of classic riding, can't see how he's at all any better. Only one year younger.

Seems direct replacement, but Fenn could sprint a little and Wisniowski can TT.

P.S. And before any points it out, yes spriting to 5th in KBK doesn't really count as classic potential just yet

 

[JRanton]

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http://www.teamsky.com/teamsky/home/article/89742

Wisniowski is official, good flat's domestique for stage races and a great classics rider & lead out man for Viviani/DVP.

Yes, a nice upgrade on Fenn.

Sky's cobbles squad should be pretty good next year: Stannard, Rowe, Moscon, Van Poppel, Wisniowski, Puccio, Doull, Golas and Knees will be the core squad and then the likes of Thomas, Kwiatkowski and Viviani will ride selected races.

Nice upgrade?

They seem to have about same level of classic riding, can't see how he's at all any better. Only one year younger.

Seems direct replacement, but Fenn could sprint a little and Wisniowski can TT.

P.S. And before any points it out, yes spriting to 5th in KBK doesn't really count as classic potential just yet

Yeah, I've seen more than enough from both riders in the classics to know that Wisniowski is a much stronger rider than Fenn. He's also 18 months younger and has been developing as a rider, unlike Fenn who has been regressing as a rider during his five years as a pro.

 

[silvergrenade]

Sergio Henao not with Sky from 2017?

 

[TMP402]

With Kwiatkowski out, that team now looks pretty shaky come the proper climbs. I know a strong team probably counts for less in the Vuelta than in the other two, especially with Froome in his annual yo-yo race, but a Henao, one of Nieve/Landa or Thomas/Poels would really have significantly strengthened this team.

 

[robin440]

not sure what sky did to kwiatkowski

 

[rghysens]

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not sure what sky did to kwiatkowski

Paid him twice what he is actually worth?

 

[Roku]

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not sure what sky did to kwiatkowski

He is an overly-hyped rider with lots of nuts who had an unbelievable season. I think his current performances reflect better his true level than the ones he had some years ago.

 

[MatParker117]

Well Tomorrow could be the day Froome moves into Red.

 

[yaco]

Kwiatkovski must have a limited future if he can't finish a GT,let alone a one week stage race - Has he finished a stage race in 2016?

 

[robin440]

tirreno and poland

 

[yaco]

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tirreno and poland

Doubt you could trust Kwiatkowski in a GT - Needs to be a better classics rider or be a very good one week stage racer.

 

[Nick C.]

I thought Kwiatkowski won the world's two years ago and E3 this spring. He may not be suited to domestique duties.