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Axel Hangleck

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I don't know, that's why I'm asking...

What I do know is that Axel seems to think non-road categories should always be included, even when it's clearly only road races that are being considered.

Huh... PCS has 483 road races, but that would only leave 17 off-road wins between Pidcock and PFP...
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They tweeted it themselves......I'm sure they know. And why shouldn't non-road be included?

They've won 4 XCO races already this year; 3 for PFP, and 1 for Pidcock...
 
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Well that was better than I expected at least. Sheffield was looking good in DDV before being caught in the big crash so maybe not too surprising. Tarling went down in the feed zone crash but recovered well. Not sure how well he rides the actual cobbles but he certainly seems to have the engine for these races. Turner was looking good first time over the Paterberg but faded badly.
 
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Rod Eilingworth reflects on the Sky years -
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...orth-reflects-on-ineos-grenadiers-gc-downfall
Appearing on a recent episode of Sigma Sports presents Matt Stephens Unplugged, former Team Sky/Ineos tactician Rod Eilingworth looked back on the highs and lows of his cumulative 13 years with British WorldTeam and offered an insight into the team's underperformance in recent seasons.

"I think we felt like we had a system, it was like 'here is this system, run them through the system and they'll come out Tour de France champions on the other end," Ellingworth told Stephens. "It doesn't work like that, you've got to keep adapting. I think, yes, maybe there were a couple of years there where we just ran the same system in a way and it eventually caught up with us."
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JRanton

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Their season has picked up of late with Pidcock winning Amstel and Rodriguez winning Romandie. Their first world tour stage race GC win since 2022. Bernal looking strong throughout the spring is another big boost to the team.

I like the look of the Giro team: Thomas, Arensman, Foss, Narvaez, Sheffield, Ganna, B.Swift, C.Swift.

Podium with Thomas and a couple of stage wins is a realistic goal.
 
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If we assume Pogi & UAE will dominate the Giro, then Ganna seems the best bet for a ITT stage win. Which leaves us to wonder what Arensman, Narvaez and Sheffield might be used for. Arensman to follow G in the mountains I assume, Narvaez & Sheffield to try in breakaways I'd guess. Trying to get Arensman in a break would be a good idea, but other teams probably would not like it.
 
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samhocking

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They have a solid team to do a traditional Sky/Ineos mountain train. Which will be useless of course.
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Will be less useless than not working to Thomas's strength though. Cookson would be very dumb to try and use zero race craft like UAE and leave it all to Thomas to tackle Pogacar one on one. Thomas isn't Pogacar, so no point racing him with parity, the strength is the team race craft for Thomas.
 
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Arenman gained 5 kilos over the course of the Giro, which explains his performance -
https://velo.outsideonline.com/road...5-kilos-while-racing-the-3500km-giro-ditalia/
Drink too much in the mission to stay hydrated and in most cases your body simply pees out the excess. But OD’ing on electrolyes can be a longer-term issue.

Sodium naturally binds with water, and so overloading on electrolytes during a multi-day race can lead to several bidons-worth of excess coming along for the ride.

“Typically riders will pee out more sodium if they’ve ‘over-salted’ on the bike, so they’ll be balanced out within a day or so by simply ‘doing nothing’,” said Raff Hussey of Precision Fuel & Hydration, which partners teams Lotto-DSTNY and DSM Firmenich PostNL.

“But if a rider wakes up the next day and over-salts all over again, there’s the risk of slowly building on the fluid retention until they’re several kilos heavier,” Hussey told Velo. “They need to reduce the relative sodium concentration of their drinks according to their sweat losses to prevent this.”
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Bolder

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I would assume either some internal politics or the desire to shake things up from Brailsford, who even though he isn't directly involved still has a lot of influence on the cycling team. Ineos could use a reset but I suspect there are a lot of high salaries to clear out first. I wouldn't be sad if they were even more focused on UK riders, with a proper devo team, even if they won't be able to compete with the Red Bulls and UAEs of the world.
 
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https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/in...-management-with-steve-cummings-left-at-home/
"Former team manager Dave Brailsford used to hog the limelight during his long spell in charge of the team, but no member of the team management took part in the press conference, leaving the riders to talk about their own and the team's wider Tour de France ambitions."

Maybe there are all busy trying to set up their own "control room"? :D
 
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