It doesn't matter what it was afterwards. The relevant data is what it was before.Justinr said:My body fat % was < 10% afterwards
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It doesn't matter what it was afterwards. The relevant data is what it was before.Justinr said:My body fat % was < 10% afterwards
hrotha said:It doesn't matter what it was afterwards. The relevant data is what it was before.
Justinr said:Its interesting that he says that. I've managed to lose twice that in the past and increase my power at the same time.
Justinr said:My body fat % was < 10% afterwards
Parrulo said:Also we should take into consideration how fast wiggins lost the weight.
Didn't the supposed 8-9 Kg weight loss happen between the giro and the tour?
Saint Unix said:Wiggins at the 2009 Paris-Roubaix. Looks pretty skeletal there.
Saint Unix said:Wiggins at the 2009 Paris-Roubaix. Looks pretty skeletal there.
MartinGT said:If you are trying to see his legs are skinny as f@ck, then the dirt on his legs makes it look like that IMO.
This pic has been shown before.
red_flanders said:Guys, lens or dirt...he's really thin at this point. This wasn't the only photo of him at this time.
Sciandri is of interest because he is a key figure in the set-up of British Cycling academy in Quarrata that brought up the big british stars except Wiggins and Froome.del1962 said:Seriously is the new clinic meme that because someone worked with Sciandri then they are suspected of doping, that mean anyone at BMC last year including Pinotti is suspect?
Dear Wiggo said:Biggest Loser participants can lose 5 times that amount and double not only their power output but also their time to exhaustion. Not sure your personal example is a good one.
hrotha said:It doesn't matter what it was afterwards. The relevant data is what it was before.
very interesting.lllludo said:Sciandri is of interest because he is a key figure in the set-up of British Cycling academy in Quarrata that brought up the big british stars except Wiggins and Froome.
As a rider, Sciandri's 8 pro teams were always the ones with EPO and dirty docs starting with Carrera in 1990 and finishing with CSC in 2004.
According to Richard Moore, Sciandri was a Motorola teammate and friend of Armstrong who sometimes visited him at home in Quarrata.
Max could be an interesting witness for CIRC but I doubt he will show up.
Sciandri was also a known customer, a neighbour and admirer of Cecchini who, like Ferrari, was assessing his riders on a climb near Quarrata: Monte Serra. He was also one of Peter Keen's leader for the UK RR teams in the 90's (the other was Boardman).
At the end of his pro career he became part of the UK cycling staff and convinced Brailsford to base the academy away from Manchester in Quarrata where some future UK stars like Kennaugh, Swift, Stannard, Thomas, Cav were trained.
This article from Fotheringham illustrate the probable influence of Sciandri, assessing his riders on Monte Serra, in their development :
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/sep/20/tuscany-cycling-tour-de-france
Even if the Quarrata UK base has been highly successful it has been closed and Sciandri has moved on. He is now employed by BMC but IMO he is of importance on the UK cycling scene.
Justinr said:So it can be done without doping then...
congrats on missing the point twice in a row.Justinr said:So it can be done without doping then...
Justinr said:Right - had to dig it out from an old spreadhseet. It was 22% beforehand.
SundayRider said:You have obviously never been lean and trained to a reasonable level have you? The type of workouts you need to perform to improve FTP (especially at a pro level) are very difficult to perform on a restricted diet when you have little fat and non functional muscle mass to eat into.
you can't keep a straight face and say you didn't see the irrelevance of your own experience here.Justinr said:I never claimed that I had. I just replied to the comment that someone had implied weight loss and power increase could only be done by doping. I have personal experience of doing both without doping and also another example was also posted. In return I'm subjected to sarcastic and ridculing comments from people on here, some of whom have complained about others trolling...
King Boonen said:That's massive compared to an elite level cyclist, the comparison just doesn't make sense I'm afraid.
Justinr said:I never claimed that I had. I just replied to the comment that someone had implied weight loss and power increase could only be done by doping. I have personal experience of doing both without doping and also another example was also posted. In return I'm subjected to sarcastic and ridculing comments from people on here, some of whom have complained about others trolling...
Wallace and Gromit said:Netserk - There are no prizes for reporting the most posts. When you make so many reports that are quite trivial in nature, there's a risk that your reports of posts that genuinely should be reported will be overlooked.
Justinr - It might be prudent to stop your posts about weight loss, if only to save the Cycling News server from collapsing under the weight of Netserk's complaints. Whilst it's an interesting subject, it just upsets the feisty "regulars" in the context of Wiggo and when they get upset, all sorts of unpleasant stuff ends up getting posted. Thanks.
They are not the only ones. Valverde this year is thinner than ever.mikeoneill said:why would froome and wiggo be the only ones on the special aicar/gw sauce
what's the reasoning there?
there's not much evidence of its use in athletics
ferrari speculated about froome and mo farahs ghastly thinness on his blog..he seemed to be hinting at something there
the only other one that springs to mind is asbel kiprop