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I suspect that you are right here. Vingegaard is the perfect watts monster and when he said yesterday that he felt better than during his Tour victory perhaps he was simply stating facts. That would have been scarcely believable a week ago when we had watched his deathly, pained expression on some of the early mountain stages and his sub par performance in the TT. But he has bounced back with a bang both visually on the bike and also as the times up the Tourmalet and Angliru have confirmed.
I think what we are seeing is a massive willy waving competition between himself and Roglic and Jonas is showing him who is the boss. He done the same with Pog during his 2 Tour wins, even when Pog rode away on occasion we seen Vingegaard back breathing down his neck letting him know that he’s still there. You don’t win 2 Tours without having a ruthless killer instinct. Given Vingegaards form right now Id expect that he could quite easily take a couple of minutes off Kuss between tomorrow and on Saturday all things being equal.
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This is exactly what my gut instinct says too. I've been fooled by his innocent looks and seemingly low IQ (I have no idea about his iq obviously), that's obvious.
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Tom Danielson has had enough on his behalf.
View: https://twitter.com/tomdanielson/status/1701988223197876277
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Tommy D not content with being a suspicious coach, wants to be a suspicious agent too
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With Tommy D's history he is way past suspicion stage. But he don't care..Tommy D not content with being a suspicious coach, wants to be a suspicious agent too
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Here's where I disagree with Johan. He says there's no direction in the team -- what with both teammates attacking him -- but his killer instinct prevents him from considering Jumbo Visma might want to finish 1-2-3 in terms of seconds.
The team has total control of the race, so the directors have a lot to play with here, like managing a grand tour where the riders finish not only 1-2-3, but with three seconds separating each rider.
Who knows what these guys are up to? Ketones are one helluva drug.
Fingers crossed!
Edited to add that I managed to make it through to then end of that speech and can't help but notice that at one point Johan says he has absolutely no idea what's going on behind the scenes at Jumbo, then goes on to say with authority that he knew the plan was for Roglic to win. What is it, Johan? Are you just talking schit again?
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Tommy D still dumb as rocks after all these years, you love to see it
Kuss is in a difficult position. I mean sure, it's kind of easy to question his Mr. Nice Guy- attitude and want him to be more assertive with using his one and only chance at a GT win.
But then again, Vingo could have easily taken the red yesterday. Very, very easily. Today at latest.
So I get the feeling that Kuss needs some next level- nice guy strategies to get that Vuelta win.
Yeah, I compare him with Froome in that regard. Outwardly looks like an oof, but is absolutely ruthless in the team.
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I think that the main rivalry is between Rogla and Vingo. That's the source of tension in JV: neither of them wants the other to win. OTOH maybe they would be fine with Kuss' victory indeed. This would be some explanation of the divergence between their comments and behavior on the road.
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For a quiet introvert that Vingegaard is I find this an interesting take. He’s already won two TdFs, something Roglic had taken from him in 2020. So now quiet, introverted Vingo wishes to deny his teammate a consolation grand tour win after helping him win in 2022?
Hopefully your OTOH is closer to the truth.
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Introvert Vingo went to Movistar bus to talk about strike. He's becoming more and more a silent boss with each TdF win. Consolation? Rogla's won a GT this year. This is the battle to get the 2nd.
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Highlighted what I want to answer; this could be true and would be a Jumbo thing to do.
Right now Wout looks like a saint in comparison lol.
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Vingo’s new found courage might also be symptomatic of what he knows his team has that other teams don’t. It is consistent with the smug arrogance of the rest of that team.
Yes somehow I forgot the Giro 😳
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Person with US-themed username believes everybody would love Jumbo if they made the last four days a procession and allowed Kuss to win.
Stereotype checks out.
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You really do get the impression that Jumbo aren't the most popular team either among fans or within the peloton
PS Never forget
PS Never forget
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